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Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle
WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - ..50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. |
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On May 4, 9:33*pm, HK wrote:
Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. ..50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...kan-hunter.jpg I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 |
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On May 4, 10:14*pm, Tim wrote:
On May 4, 9:33*pm, HK wrote: Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. .50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...04/alaskan-hun... I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. *i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 But if I DID have the money to buy it, I'd donate it back to the NRA museum. ?:^ ) |
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BTW, the cartridge is reminicent of a 45-70 govt. However the 45-70 (.
458") casing length is right at 2" long where the .50 (right at 1/2 ") beowulf is 1.65" gobs of knockdown power! |
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Tim wrote:
On May 4, 10:14 pm, Tim wrote: On May 4, 9:33 pm, HK wrote: Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. .50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...04/alaskan-hun... I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 But if I DID have the money to buy it, I'd donate it back to the NRA museum. ?:^ ) I wouldn't give the NRA the time of day. |
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On May 5, 5:11*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On May 4, 10:14 pm, Tim wrote: On May 4, 9:33 pm, HK wrote: Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. .50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...04/alaskan-hun.... I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. *i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 But if I DID have the money to buy it, I'd donate it back to the NRA museum. ?:^ ) I wouldn't give the NRA the time of day. Well, that's your privilege, Harry. |
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On May 5, 7:57*am, Tim wrote:
On May 5, 5:11*am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On May 4, 10:14 pm, Tim wrote: On May 4, 9:33 pm, HK wrote: Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. .50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...04/alaskan-hun.... I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. *i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 But if I DID have the money to buy it, I'd donate it back to the NRA museum. ?:^ ) I wouldn't give the NRA the time of day. Well, that's your privilege, Harry.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, but folks like him don't want it to be yours... He already has his so screw everyone else, it's the way of the elitist. That's why we have the second amendment... We want a government by the people, for the people. His ilk wants a government of a few elite people, deciding what's right for the rest of the people. Basically handing us out what is left over after their party... |
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On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote:
Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady Stop infringing on deer habitat. |
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On May 5, 8:55*am, Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady She should bring it to Maryland and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious but cowardly pest, Krausii Liesallthetimeus... |
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On May 5, 8:42*am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady Stop infringing on deer habitat. Waht for? I'd jsut as soon see them hunted for venison than hit bya car )causeing auto and in many cases personal damage)and left laying beside the road. Wach 'em all. there's plenty for everybody! |
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On May 5, 8:47*am, wrote:
On May 5, 8:55*am, Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady She should bring it to Maryland and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious but cowardly pest, Krausii Liesallthetimeus... Eh, I wouldn't go to that extreme, but I hit one with my Dad's Lincoln and there was about 1400.$ worth of damage, then a month and a half later I hit another ... Same amount. They would have been better off being hit by a Beowulf, with a .50 than a Lincoln Town Car with a 4.6. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On May 5, 8:47 am, wrote: On May 5, 8:55 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady She should bring it to Maryland and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious but cowardly pest, Krausii Liesallthetimeus... Eh, I wouldn't go to that extreme, but I hit one with my Dad's Lincoln and there was about 1400.$ worth of damage, then a month and a half later I hit another ... Same amount. They would have been better off being hit by a Beowulf, with a .50 than a Lincoln Town Car with a 4.6. ************************************************** ******** Were you driving the speed limit both times? |
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On May 5, 9:42*am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady Stop infringing on deer habitat. Damn what an ignorant remark! If you have a house in the U.S. you are "infringing on deer habitat". Do you suggest that every citizen of the United States should move to another country, dummy? |
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Tim wrote:
On May 5, 8:47 am, wrote: On May 5, 8:55 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady She should bring it to Maryland and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious but cowardly pest, Krausii Liesallthetimeus... Eh, I wouldn't go to that extreme, but I hit one with my Dad's Lincoln and there was about 1400.$ worth of damage, then a month and a half later I hit another ... Same amount. They would have been better off being hit by a Beowulf, with a .50 than a Lincoln Town Car with a 4.6. Well, since Palin doesn't have much to do, perhaps the folks in your community can ask her to come on down for an aerial deer hunt. I'd be in favor of that only if the deer hunters wore antlers and deer coats. :) |
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On May 5, 12:41*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 09:42:12 -0400, HK wrote: I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady Stop infringing on deer habitat. I have seen deer in downtown DC (on the Whitehurst freeway), what is "deer habitat". I've seen deer on the national mall. The deer habitat under discussion here typically is surburban and rural land on or adjacent to meadows, forests, et cetera. I live on land that is deer habitat and adjacent to meadows, forests, et cetera. We have deer walking on our lot and our adjacent forest several times a week. In the late summer and fall, they love to eat any apples that have fallen off our four apple trees. One of our neighbors takes "deer apples" seriously. He has a small orchard, maybe two dozen trees, and it always looks to me as if he is growing them strictly for the deer. Jeezus, Harry! Just about every person here has seen an aerial view of your house and neighborhood, it's in a damned subdivision! You lie even when you know you can't get away with it! |
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On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:27:10 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 12:41:32 -0400, HK wrote: Stop infringing on deer habitat. I have seen deer in downtown DC (on the Whitehurst freeway), what is "deer habitat". I've seen deer on the national mall. The deer habitat under discussion here typically is surburban and rural land on or adjacent to meadows, forests, et cetera. Deer are becoming overpopulated in many areas. The lack of hunters and large predators has made them 150 pound rats. They simply breed up to the food supply, which tends to be just about anything that grows. BTW seeing a deer on the mall is not as exciting as seeing one 35 feet above K street on the Whitehurst (an elevated freeway exactly 2 lanes wide wall to wall). N39.54.9.54 W77.03.43.56 for you google E fans No Don I wasn't doing the speed limit. it was about 4AM and I was on my way to GEICO to fix 2 broken laser printers. doing about 50 I did manage to dodge them although one did jump over the wall. I thought about looping around on M street and seeing if she was OK but I had to go. You fix laser printers? Now *that* is a real skill. I am impressed. I met a TV guy a month or so ago who fixed a board on my glass picture tube HD TV by pulling the board, removing some chips and soldering in new ones. He's gotta be one of the last of the breed, too. I replaced a cmos chip on my Raytheon scanner 5 years ago and I didn't know a damned thing about it before cracking it open to diagnose. Was able to search the net for clues, talked to a raytheon tech over the phone and isolated the problem. Soldering iron, solder suck, solder and a $2 cmos chip and the thing worked like new. Damned gratifying. Replacing the board would've been $600. |
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:27:10 -0400, HK wrote: wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 12:41:32 -0400, HK wrote: Stop infringing on deer habitat. I have seen deer in downtown DC (on the Whitehurst freeway), what is "deer habitat". I've seen deer on the national mall. The deer habitat under discussion here typically is surburban and rural land on or adjacent to meadows, forests, et cetera. Deer are becoming overpopulated in many areas. The lack of hunters and large predators has made them 150 pound rats. They simply breed up to the food supply, which tends to be just about anything that grows. BTW seeing a deer on the mall is not as exciting as seeing one 35 feet above K street on the Whitehurst (an elevated freeway exactly 2 lanes wide wall to wall). N39.54.9.54 W77.03.43.56 for you google E fans No Don I wasn't doing the speed limit. it was about 4AM and I was on my way to GEICO to fix 2 broken laser printers. doing about 50 I did manage to dodge them although one did jump over the wall. I thought about looping around on M street and seeing if she was OK but I had to go. You fix laser printers? Now *that* is a real skill. I am impressed. I met a TV guy a month or so ago who fixed a board on my glass picture tube HD TV by pulling the board, removing some chips and soldering in new ones. He's gotta be one of the last of the breed, too. I replaced a cmos chip on my Raytheon scanner 5 years ago and I didn't know a damned thing about it before cracking it open to diagnose. Was able to search the net for clues, talked to a raytheon tech over the phone and isolated the problem. Soldering iron, solder suck, solder and a $2 cmos chip and the thing worked like new. Damned gratifying. Replacing the board would've been $600. Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. |
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On Tue, 05 May 2009 15:34:29 -0400, HK wrote:
jps wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:27:10 -0400, HK wrote: wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 12:41:32 -0400, HK wrote: Stop infringing on deer habitat. I have seen deer in downtown DC (on the Whitehurst freeway), what is "deer habitat". I've seen deer on the national mall. The deer habitat under discussion here typically is surburban and rural land on or adjacent to meadows, forests, et cetera. Deer are becoming overpopulated in many areas. The lack of hunters and large predators has made them 150 pound rats. They simply breed up to the food supply, which tends to be just about anything that grows. BTW seeing a deer on the mall is not as exciting as seeing one 35 feet above K street on the Whitehurst (an elevated freeway exactly 2 lanes wide wall to wall). N39.54.9.54 W77.03.43.56 for you google E fans No Don I wasn't doing the speed limit. it was about 4AM and I was on my way to GEICO to fix 2 broken laser printers. doing about 50 I did manage to dodge them although one did jump over the wall. I thought about looping around on M street and seeing if she was OK but I had to go. You fix laser printers? Now *that* is a real skill. I am impressed. I met a TV guy a month or so ago who fixed a board on my glass picture tube HD TV by pulling the board, removing some chips and soldering in new ones. He's gotta be one of the last of the breed, too. I replaced a cmos chip on my Raytheon scanner 5 years ago and I didn't know a damned thing about it before cracking it open to diagnose. Was able to search the net for clues, talked to a raytheon tech over the phone and isolated the problem. Soldering iron, solder suck, solder and a $2 cmos chip and the thing worked like new. Damned gratifying. Replacing the board would've been $600. Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. Although it takes a little background knowledge, most of the components that go bad are well known by the techs who repair stuff for a living. Piggybacking on their knowledge makes diagnosing and repairing lots easier. Having to measure voltages off of a solder point on a printed circuit board would probably be the point at which I'd turn it over to a real tech. In that case I got lucky and the part was cheap. It's not always the case... |
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HK wrote:
jps wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:27:10 -0400, HK wrote: wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 12:41:32 -0400, HK wrote: Stop infringing on deer habitat. I have seen deer in downtown DC (on the Whitehurst freeway), what is "deer habitat". I've seen deer on the national mall. The deer habitat under discussion here typically is surburban and rural land on or adjacent to meadows, forests, et cetera. Deer are becoming overpopulated in many areas. The lack of hunters and large predators has made them 150 pound rats. They simply breed up to the food supply, which tends to be just about anything that grows. BTW seeing a deer on the mall is not as exciting as seeing one 35 feet above K street on the Whitehurst (an elevated freeway exactly 2 lanes wide wall to wall). N39.54.9.54 W77.03.43.56 for you google E fans No Don I wasn't doing the speed limit. it was about 4AM and I was on my way to GEICO to fix 2 broken laser printers. doing about 50 I did manage to dodge them although one did jump over the wall. I thought about looping around on M street and seeing if she was OK but I had to go. You fix laser printers? Now *that* is a real skill. I am impressed. I met a TV guy a month or so ago who fixed a board on my glass picture tube HD TV by pulling the board, removing some chips and soldering in new ones. He's gotta be one of the last of the breed, too. I replaced a cmos chip on my Raytheon scanner 5 years ago and I didn't know a damned thing about it before cracking it open to diagnose. Was able to search the net for clues, talked to a raytheon tech over the phone and isolated the problem. Soldering iron, solder suck, solder and a $2 cmos chip and the thing worked like new. Damned gratifying. Replacing the board would've been $600. Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. By component parts do you mean assemblies or discrete components? Any three year old can screw together a case fans PS MB etc. Especially if he has a set of fine German screwdrivers to work with. |
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"jim78565" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. By component parts do you mean assemblies or discrete components? Any three year old can screw together a case fans PS MB etc. Especially if he has a set of fine German screwdrivers to work with. In the old days, real "skill" meant determining *what* component or components needed to be replaced using a schematic, meter and/or an o'scope. Much of today's modern electronic circuitry has built in diagnostics that scream "replace me" when they go bad. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. By component parts do you mean assemblies or discrete components? Any three year old can screw together a case fans PS MB etc. Especially if he has a set of fine German screwdrivers to work with. In the old days, real "skill" meant determining *what* component or components needed to be replaced using a schematic, meter and/or an o'scope. Much of today's modern electronic circuitry has built in diagnostics that scream "replace me" when they go bad. Eisboch Well, since moving over to the "silver side" with an Apple desktop and an Apple laptop, I haven't given a lot of thought to building up another fast "PC" computer. I did turn my last PC desktop into a server. I have been keeping up to speed, though, on the "Hackintosh" projects. These are computers built from standard PC components to run the Apple OS. There's really no need to solder components in order to build a superfast desktop computer, and there hasn't been for decades. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "jim78565" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. By component parts do you mean assemblies or discrete components? Any three year old can screw together a case fans PS MB etc. Especially if he has a set of fine German screwdrivers to work with. In the old days, real "skill" meant determining *what* component or components needed to be replaced using a schematic, meter and/or an o'scope. Much of today's modern electronic circuitry has built in diagnostics that scream "replace me" when they go bad. Eisboch Well, since moving over to the "silver side" with an Apple desktop and an Apple laptop, I haven't given a lot of thought to building up another fast "PC" computer. I did turn my last PC desktop into a server. I have been keeping up to speed, though, on the "Hackintosh" projects. These are computers built from standard PC components to run the Apple OS. There's really no need to solder components in order to build a superfast desktop computer, and there hasn't been for decades. Soldering isn't what I was referring to. That's a basic physical skill that anyone can learn, along with the more important skill of how to "de-solder" without destroying a printed circuit board. At the technician level, I was referring to having the knowledge of how individual components worked, meaning tubes, resistors, transistors, capacitors, etc. and having the ability to determine which of them were not working properly ... or at all by applying measurements to your knowledge base. Electronics obviously has changed. It's now mostly board level replacement, based on published problem symptoms and troubleshooting guides. It's a vast improvement, for sure, but I can't say it requires the same level of education, skill and knowledge required of the old fashioned TV repairman of yesteryear. Engineers used to design products uniquely for the types of components they used and for their application. In the old days that's what made a Macintosh (the amplifier, not the computer) sound like a Mac, and not a Pioneer or Sansui. To me a computer is just a case that houses a bunch of third party supplied, standardized components that basically plug in and work. If your Seagate drive dies, unplug it, unscrew it and replace it with a Western Digital and it will work fine. Most of the board level replacements in a computer cost less to replace than the time it would take to find a specific component problem. Eisboch (old school) |
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On May 5, 5:25*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "jim78565" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. By component parts do you mean assemblies or discrete components? Any three year old can screw together a case fans PS MB etc. Especially if he has a set of fine German screwdrivers to work with. In the old days, real "skill" meant determining **what* component or components needed to be replaced using a schematic, meter and/or an o'scope. Much of today's modern electronic circuitry has built in diagnostics that scream "replace me" when they go bad. Eisboch Well, since moving over to the "silver side" with an Apple desktop and an Apple laptop, I haven't given a lot of thought to building up another fast "PC" computer. I did turn my last PC desktop into a server. I have been keeping up to speed, though, on the "Hackintosh" projects. These are computers built from standard PC components to run the Apple OS. There's really no need to solder components in order to build a superfast desktop computer, and there hasn't been for decades. Soldering isn't what I was referring to. *That's a basic physical skill that anyone can learn, along with the more important skill of how to "de-solder" without destroying a printed circuit board. At the technician level, I was referring to having the knowledge of how individual components worked, meaning tubes, resistors, transistors, capacitors, etc. and having the ability to determine which of them were not working properly ... or at all by applying measurements to your knowledge base. * Electronics obviously has changed. *It's now mostly board level replacement, based on published problem symptoms and troubleshooting guides. It's a vast improvement, for sure, but I can't say it requires the same level of education, skill and knowledge required of the old fashioned TV repairman of yesteryear. Engineers used to design products uniquely for the types of components they used and for their application. * In the old days that's what made a Macintosh *(the amplifier, not the computer) *sound like a Mac, and not a Pioneer or Sansui. To me a computer is just a case that houses a bunch of third party supplied, standardized components that basically plug in and work. * If your Seagate drive dies, unplug it, unscrew it and replace it with a Western Digital and it will work fine. * Most of the board level replacements in a computer cost less to replace than the time it would take to find a specific component problem. Eisboch *(old school)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yup, that's how it was in the 80''s when auto computers were just coming to be. I worked with a schematic and an Occilliscope. As time went on the dealerships just wanted to change parts until the car ran. Lot's of times it would just be a connection or even a wire but they didn't care, charge the customer 800 for a CPU and if that didn't work, start changing other parts until something worked... |
Sarah Got a Gun...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "jim78565" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Well..I am pretty good at assemblying computer from component parts, and general soldering, but you guys are beyond my abilities. By component parts do you mean assemblies or discrete components? Any three year old can screw together a case fans PS MB etc. Especially if he has a set of fine German screwdrivers to work with. In the old days, real "skill" meant determining *what* component or components needed to be replaced using a schematic, meter and/or an o'scope. Much of today's modern electronic circuitry has built in diagnostics that scream "replace me" when they go bad. Eisboch Well, since moving over to the "silver side" with an Apple desktop and an Apple laptop, I haven't given a lot of thought to building up another fast "PC" computer. I did turn my last PC desktop into a server. I have been keeping up to speed, though, on the "Hackintosh" projects. These are computers built from standard PC components to run the Apple OS. There's really no need to solder components in order to build a superfast desktop computer, and there hasn't been for decades. Soldering isn't what I was referring to. That's a basic physical skill that anyone can learn, along with the more important skill of how to "de-solder" without destroying a printed circuit board. At the technician level, I was referring to having the knowledge of how individual components worked, meaning tubes, resistors, transistors, capacitors, etc. and having the ability to determine which of them were not working properly ... or at all by applying measurements to your knowledge base. Electronics obviously has changed. It's now mostly board level replacement, based on published problem symptoms and troubleshooting guides. It's a vast improvement, for sure, but I can't say it requires the same level of education, skill and knowledge required of the old fashioned TV repairman of yesteryear. Engineers used to design products uniquely for the types of components they used and for their application. In the old days that's what made a Macintosh (the amplifier, not the computer) sound like a Mac, and not a Pioneer or Sansui. To me a computer is just a case that houses a bunch of third party supplied, standardized components that basically plug in and work. If your Seagate drive dies, unplug it, unscrew it and replace it with a Western Digital and it will work fine. Most of the board level replacements in a computer cost less to replace than the time it would take to find a specific component problem. Eisboch (old school) That's pretty much it, plug and play. |
Sarah Got a Gun...
Tim wrote:
On May 5, 5:11 am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On May 4, 10:14 pm, Tim wrote: On May 4, 9:33 pm, HK wrote: Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. .50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...04/alaskan-hun.... I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 But if I DID have the money to buy it, I'd donate it back to the NRA museum. ?:^ ) I wouldn't give the NRA the time of day. Well, that's your privilege, Harry. The NRA must have returned his application with the un-cashed check. |
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On Tue, 05 May 2009 19:55:42 -0400, BAR wrote:
Tim wrote: On May 5, 5:11 am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On May 4, 10:14 pm, Tim wrote: On May 4, 9:33 pm, HK wrote: Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. .50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...04/alaskan-hun.... I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 But if I DID have the money to buy it, I'd donate it back to the NRA museum. ?:^ ) I wouldn't give the NRA the time of day. Well, that's your privilege, Harry. The NRA must have returned his application with the un-cashed check. You could be dead and the NRA would cash your check. |
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Sarah Got a Gun...
On May 5, 9:47*am, wrote:
On May 5, 8:55*am, Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady She should bring it to Maryland and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious but cowardly pest, Krausii Liesallthetimeus... Or in CT, where we find the justhateus lowasstothegroundus. |
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2009 19:55:42 -0400, BAR wrote: Tim wrote: On May 5, 5:11 am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On May 4, 10:14 pm, Tim wrote: On May 4, 9:33 pm, HK wrote: Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory. The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week. The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas. Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet. It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard. The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site. Templar gun designer Bob Reynolds told the NRA's magazine that Palin had stood up for Second Amendment gun rights and "I just wanted to do something to give back." - - - .50 caliber? Levi Johnston better practice his cross-country running. Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. .50 "Beouwulf", Harry. http://www.brleather.net/Pictures/Gu..._CartComp2.jpg about an ounce and a half of lead under a low speed charge. it works on the same principle as a .45 ACP. the bullet travels slow but has great knock-down power. http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-co...04/alaskan-hun.... I'd love to be at the banquet, but what ever I bid on it wouldn't be near enough. i would imagine it will bring over $10,000.00 But if I DID have the money to buy it, I'd donate it back to the NRA museum. ?:^ ) I wouldn't give the NRA the time of day. Well, that's your privilege, Harry. The NRA must have returned his application with the un-cashed check. You could be dead and the NRA would cash your check. Actually, there's no reason to pay a dime to be an NRA member. |
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Sarah Got a Gun...
On May 5, 8:35*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2009 17:05:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 5, 9:47*am, wrote: On May 5, 8:55*am, Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:33:53 -0400, HK wrote: Or maybe the Alaskan bimbo will be satisfied shooting wolves from helicopters. I wish she would bring her helo to Des Moines and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious and dangerous pest found in over abundence. Deer. Casady She should bring it to Maryland and do a search and destroy on an obnoxious but cowardly pest, Krausii Liesallthetimeus... Or in CT, where we find the *justhateus lowasstothegroundus. Sounds like a relative of the seldcom elusive justafreakinasshole.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, did your 20+ I.Q. wife feed you that one too? |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:39:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: In the old days, real "skill" meant determining *what* component or components needed to be replaced using a schematic, meter and/or an o'scope. Much of today's modern electronic circuitry has built in diagnostics that scream "replace me" when they go bad. We called it "the bad part falls out smoking on the floor". I liked working on computers when a CPU was the size of a commercial sub-zero fridge and had 1000 cards. Since then it is "cut open the box and plug in a new one". I've been out of the electronics field for over 30 years, but am absolutely amazed at the advances made since I went to school. I learned vacuum tube theory, transistors and had a basic introduction to digital in the form of TTL (5v) logic devices, soon after replaced by 12v CMOS mainly because TTL just wasn't reliable. A digital display was a row of Nixie Tubes with the proper internal elements illuminated for a display. Electronics then was all discrete components and a piece of gear designed with them mounted on a single layer PC board was "High Tech". Now, a complete FM receiver and 5.1 surround sound decoder is on a single chip that costs about 53 cents to manufacture. It's really an amazing evolution. Soon, PC boards will lose their copper conductors, replaced by modulated LEDs and fiber optics. The size of products will continue to shrink and become even more powerful. Eisboch |
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On May 5, 8:52*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:39:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: In the old days, real "skill" meant determining **what* component or components needed to be replaced using a schematic, meter and/or an o'scope. Much of today's modern electronic circuitry has built in diagnostics that scream "replace me" when they go bad. We called it "the bad part falls out smoking on the floor". I liked working on computers when a CPU was the size of a commercial sub-zero fridge and had 1000 cards. Since then it is "cut open the box and plug in a new one". I've been out of the electronics field for over 30 years, but am absolutely amazed at the advances made since I went to school. * I learned vacuum tube theory, transistors and had a basic introduction to digital in the form of TTL *(5v) logic devices, soon after replaced by 12v CMOS mainly because TTL just wasn't reliable. * A digital display was a row of Nixie Tubes with the proper internal elements illuminated for a display. * Electronics then was all discrete components and a piece of gear designed with them mounted on a single layer PC board was "High Tech". Now, a complete FM receiver and 5.1 surround sound decoder is on a single chip that costs about 53 cents to manufacture. * It's really an amazing evolution. * Soon, PC boards will lose their copper conductors, replaced by modulated LEDs and fiber optics. * The size of products will continue to shrink and become even more powerful. Eisboch I am a bit younger but the first time I ever did a repair was taking apart a tube CB radio and bringing the tubes to radio shack where they had a tester.. It was a big box about the size of a video game.. You plugged in the tube and hit the button.. I think I was about 8-10 at the time. |
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On May 5, 7:52*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
* Soon, PC boards will lose their copper conductors, replaced by modulated LEDs and fiber optics. * The size of products will continue to shrink and become even more powerful. Eisboch And constantly more reliable, advanced, and cheaper. |
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