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david April 26th 09 08:00 PM

battery question
 
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david

Tim April 26th 09 08:10 PM

battery question
 
On Apr 26, 2:00*pm, david wrote:
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david


Well, the parts store probably thought that because it was going in a
"marine" application, then it should have a "marine-deep cycle"
battery. I wouldn't worry about it. deep cycle batteries are made to
be discharged (like trolling motor use) and recharged slowly. BUT, I
don't' think you'll have much to worry about. I hade a '75 Pontiac
GrandVille sedan (road boat) and had about every electrical option you
could get at the time. the car battery died, I mean... just quit!

and I had to get going, so I pulled the Sears DieHard deep cycle
battery out of my Chris Craft, and put it in the car. It served
faithfully for the next two years, till I got rid of the car.



Don White April 26th 09 08:33 PM

battery question
 

"david" wrote in message
...
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david


Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type Marine
Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large outpit
needed to crank a large engine.
http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#



jim78565 April 26th 09 09:37 PM

battery question
 
Don White wrote:
"david" wrote in message
...
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david


Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type Marine
Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large outpit
needed to crank a large engine.
http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#


Bayliner 175 with a Large engine? Donny, stick to beer fetchin for yur
kid and leave the boating advice to folks who know a little bit about boats.

Don White April 26th 09 10:08 PM

battery question
 

"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"david" wrote in message
...
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david


Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type
Marine Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large
outpit needed to crank a large engine.
http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#

Bayliner 175 with a Large engine? Donny, stick to beer fetchin for yur kid
and leave the boating advice to folks who know a little bit about boats.


Well numbnuts...I'm sure it has a bigger engine than your dinghy... hold
on..you don't even have a boat, do you?



jim78565 April 26th 09 10:46 PM

battery question
 
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"david" wrote in message
...
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david
Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type
Marine Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large
outpit needed to crank a large engine.
http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#

Bayliner 175 with a Large engine? Donny, stick to beer fetchin for yur kid
and leave the boating advice to folks who know a little bit about boats.


Well numbnuts...I'm sure it has a bigger engine than your dinghy... hold
on..you don't even have a boat, do you?



Donny,
Before you let your pie hole emit more ignorance, here's a link to the
boat in question. Let's see if you are capable of learning anything.

jim78565 April 26th 09 10:51 PM

battery question
 
http://www.bayliner.com/bowriders.asp?modelid=78825

Don White April 26th 09 10:56 PM

battery question
 

"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"david" wrote in message
...
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david
Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type
Marine Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large
outpit needed to crank a large engine.
http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#
Bayliner 175 with a Large engine? Donny, stick to beer fetchin for yur
kid and leave the boating advice to folks who know a little bit about
boats.


Well numbnuts...I'm sure it has a bigger engine than your dinghy... hold
on..you don't even have a boat, do you?


Donny,
Before you let your pie hole emit more ignorance, here's a link to the
boat in question. Let's see if you are capable of learning anything.


Duh!



Tim April 26th 09 10:57 PM

battery question
 
On Apr 26, 2:33*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"david" wrote in message

...

Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.


-- david


Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type Marine
Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large outpit
needed to crank a large engine.http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#


I'd say it probably has a 4.6 GM /v-6. Maybe a 3.0 /4 cyl. But I 'm
not sure if the 3.0 is still in standard production or not.

anyhow, the Deep Cycle battery I had in my Pontiac had no problem
cranking over the 455 c.i.d. regardless of weather.

Don White April 26th 09 10:59 PM

battery question
 

"jim78565" wrote in message
...
http://www.bayliner.com/bowriders.asp?modelid=78825


So...it's a 135hp MerCruiser.
I suppose that's nothing to a big time operator like you.
~~ Snerk ~~



Tim April 26th 09 11:03 PM

battery question
 
Interesting what the website states:

"The most affordable stern drive package on the market is the ideal
family fun package, with features of boats costing twice as much."

Knowing of Bayliners past reputation, does this mean you get double
the bang for your buck? or you get half the quality of boat you should
have?

Just kidding.

I hope David has lots of fun with his boat for quite some time.

jim78565 April 26th 09 11:37 PM

battery question
 
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
http://www.bayliner.com/bowriders.asp?modelid=78825


So...it's a 135hp MerCruiser.
I suppose that's nothing to a big time operator like you.
~~ Snerk ~~


Hey! I was just trying to help you out since you seem to be at the lower
end of the learning curve. You still don't get it. you're hopeless.

D K[_3_] April 27th 09 12:43 AM

battery question
 
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"david" wrote in message
...
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david
Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type
Marine Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large
outpit needed to crank a large engine.
http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#

Bayliner 175 with a Large engine? Donny, stick to beer fetchin for yur kid
and leave the boating advice to folks who know a little bit about boats.


Well numbnuts...I'm sure it has a bigger engine than your dinghy... hold
on..you don't even have a boat, do you?



Hold THIS, dingy boy!

D K[_3_] April 27th 09 12:44 AM

battery question
 
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"david" wrote in message
...
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david
Wonder if you have a true Marine Deep Cycle battery or the combo type
Marine Deep Cycle/Starting battery?
If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large
outpit needed to crank a large engine.
http://www.magnacharge.com/mchg_all....20Deep%20Cycle

http://www.rollsbattery.com/#
Bayliner 175 with a Large engine? Donny, stick to beer fetchin for yur
kid and leave the boating advice to folks who know a little bit about
boats.
Well numbnuts...I'm sure it has a bigger engine than your dinghy... hold
on..you don't even have a boat, do you?

Donny,
Before you let your pie hole emit more ignorance, here's a link to the
boat in question. Let's see if you are capable of learning anything.


Duh!



Well said!

D K[_3_] April 27th 09 12:49 AM

battery question
 
jim78565 wrote:
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
http://www.bayliner.com/bowriders.asp?modelid=78825


So...it's a 135hp MerCruiser.
I suppose that's nothing to a big time operator like you.
~~ Snerk ~~

Hey! I was just trying to help you out since you seem to be at the lower
end of the learning curve. You still don't get it. you're hopeless.


He has a rowboat with a 25hp Johnson. A mighty vessel!

Don White April 27th 09 01:39 AM

battery question
 

"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
http://www.bayliner.com/bowriders.asp?modelid=78825


So...it's a 135hp MerCruiser.
I suppose that's nothing to a big time operator like you.
~~ Snerk ~~

Hey! I was just trying to help you out since you seem to be at the lower
end of the learning curve. You still don't get it. you're hopeless.


Help me out??
I'd like to help you out........and slam the door behind you.



HK April 27th 09 01:45 AM

battery question
 
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
http://www.bayliner.com/bowriders.asp?modelid=78825
So...it's a 135hp MerCruiser.
I suppose that's nothing to a big time operator like you.
~~ Snerk ~~

Hey! I was just trying to help you out since you seem to be at the lower
end of the learning curve. You still don't get it. you're hopeless.


Help me out??
I'd like to help you out........and slam the door behind you.



You don't walk turds like floridajim out the door...you flush them.

CalifBill April 27th 09 02:38 AM

battery question
 

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:57:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

anyhow, the Deep Cycle battery I had in my Pontiac had no problem
cranking over the 455 c.i.d. regardless of weather.



That is what touches on the difference. "starting batteries" usually
have better cold weather performance but they like to be charged
between starts.
Deep cycle batteries are probably better suited to the abuse the
average boater puts a battery through.


There are deep cycles, deep cycle starting batteries, and starting
batteries. The true deep cycle may not run a starter as they can not
provide the large instant amperage. Plates are thick and not as much
surface area. Deep cycle / starting are not as good deep cycle but have
more surface area and provide good instant current flow. Starting, have
lots of surface area, lots of instant current flow and thin plates. Deep
cycle them and the thin plates can warp and short out. But will turn over
high current starters. The thicker plates for less warpage and more empty
space under them, so sluffing off off of oxides due to lots of chargings do
not short out the plates. Most marine batteries in the local parts stores
are strating/deep cycle types.



[email protected] April 27th 09 06:21 AM

battery question
 
On Apr 26, 3:00*pm, david wrote:
Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david


The Deep Cycle have more Reserve. If you out using Radios, lights,
etc. It's all I use in my Boat. I am installing a second Battery this
year.It's be a Standard Car Battery.Run out to the fishing spot on
both, then shut down to the Deep Cycle while trolling. It still
charges both.If the deep gets low, switch to the other to get home.

david April 27th 09 01:15 PM

battery question
 
Let's hope the former. From what I've read recently, Bayliner has
tried pretty hard to overcome its past reputation. In any event, we
own it now; it was what we could afford today rather than wait until
"some future date" when we "had the money" (yeah, sure); and, *my wife
is very happy* (she grew up on the Chesapeake Bay). That last point
settles it.

Thanks for the info and humor!

-- david


[email protected] April 27th 09 03:16 PM

battery question
 
On Apr 26, 3:33*pm, "Don White" wrote:

If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large outpit


Since you love to correct other's typos, what's an "outpit"?

[email protected] April 27th 09 03:18 PM

battery question
 
On Apr 27, 1:21*am, wrote:
On Apr 26, 3:00*pm, david wrote:

Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.


-- david


The Deep Cycle have more Reserve. If you out using Radios, lights,
etc. It's all I use in my Boat. I am installing a second Battery this
year.It's be a Standard Car Battery.Run out to the fishing spot on
both, then shut down to the Deep Cycle while trolling. It still
charges both.If the deep gets low, switch to the other to get home.


Don should be here at any moment to correct your typos and bad
grammar. That and his lies and insults are all he has.

jim78565 April 27th 09 03:21 PM

battery question
 
wrote:
On Apr 26, 3:33 pm, "Don White" wrote:

If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large outpit


Since you love to correct other's typos, what's an "outpit"?


Would that be Donny's outdoor facility without the house?

[email protected] April 27th 09 04:04 PM

battery question
 
On Apr 27, 10:21*am, jim78565 wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 26, 3:33 pm, "Don White" wrote:


If the former, I'd be concerned...they aren't designed for the large outpit


Since you love to correct other's typos, what's an "outpit"?


Would that be Donny's outdoor facility without the house?


Yep, just a hole in the back yard!

Richard Casady May 2nd 09 03:41 PM

battery question
 
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:00:35 -0700 (PDT), david
wrote:

Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.

-- david


Richard Casady May 2nd 09 03:53 PM

battery question
 
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:00:35 -0700 (PDT), david
wrote:

Hi. We just bought a new Bayliner 175 and put her in the water for the
first time the other day. The battery was dead (and bad, it turns
out), although I had started the boat the night before our trip. No
matter. We pulled the boat out and had Advance Auto Parts install a
new battery. Worked fine and we had a good day, except I noticed later
that the battery is a marine *deep cycle* rather than a standard
marine battery. I've heard deep cycles aren't really intended for
engine starting; what do you all think? Should I get a marine starting
battery or just live with what I have. Thanks.


Stick with what you have: if it ain't broke don't fix it.

A deep cycle battery has fewer and thicker plates compared to a
starting battery. The smaller surface area of the plates means you
will get a smaller maximum current. Enough is enough, however.
Remember, you won't have to contend with cranking at sub zero
temperatures when the battery capacity is cut in half and the oil is
really stiff. A deep cycle battery will have to be larger to provide
the same cranking current as one designed for high peak current.

Casady


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