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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about
concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:58:32 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:13:50 -0700 (PDT), wrote: "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. "...when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns" The gun manufacturers and the NRA have made sure that plenty of people now have guns. The situation is so out of hand that everyone needs to be armed just in case. When do you think we should all start carrying? College, high school, middle school? You people are ****ing nuts and we've got a murder rate to prove it. I hope Obama does start to take your guns away. You're like stupid children who don't understand the consequences of their actions. Hell, we had a local murder. No guns involved. Lady was even a Sunday School teacher. It's been in papers and on television across the country. Sickening. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
"Don White" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. 34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. The thugs of Tammany Hall beat the livin' snot out of a lot of folks and I'm sure plenty disappeared but it wasn't the sort of random mayhem an assault rifle can cause. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Apr 13, 6:45*pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*------ That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. *But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. *Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Your lover Harry would like that! He's into guns now, he claims. But he also has claimed that he didn't like guns, and they should be illegal. How do you believe anything that your boyfriend utters? |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Apr 14, 2:10*am, jps wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*------ That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. *But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. *Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. *The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? *They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. *Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. *And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. *But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. *Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. *34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. Without firearms, that one person could have killed far more than 34 using poison in the cafeteria. Without firearms, a few guys killed over 3000 on 9/11. Poison and airplanes are far more efficient than an AK. Hollywood has glamorized the guns, and the liberals have steered society into losing the moral and family values that would otherwise stop a sane person from radomly using a weapons against others. The guns are here to stay. Concentrate your efforts on fixing society, where the real problem is. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. 34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. The thugs of Tammany Hall beat the livin' snot out of a lot of folks and I'm sure plenty disappeared but it wasn't the sort of random mayhem an assault rifle can cause. There were places in NYC the cops would not go. And they also had cap and ball revolvers. Not high capacity fully auto arms. The Romans in taking Scotland killed 10,000 and lost 360 of their troops in one battle. That was about 80 AD. Not a lot of guns available. People kill people. Samson used a jawbone of an Ass to kill 1000 Philistines according to the Old Testament. So that makes it BC. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:22:49 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. 34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. The thugs of Tammany Hall beat the livin' snot out of a lot of folks and I'm sure plenty disappeared but it wasn't the sort of random mayhem an assault rifle can cause. There were places in NYC the cops would not go. And they also had cap and ball revolvers. Not high capacity fully auto arms. The Romans in taking Scotland killed 10,000 and lost 360 of their troops in one battle. That was about 80 AD. Not a lot of guns available. People kill people. Samson used a jawbone of an Ass to kill 1000 Philistines according to the Old Testament. So that makes it BC. You're quoting war. What's the ratio between American dead and Iraqi combatants? We're not talking war, unless you're talking about the one manufactured by gun manufacturers and the NRA. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:24:46 -0700, jps wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:13:50 -0700 (PDT), wrote: "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. "...when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns" The gun manufacturers and the NRA have made sure that plenty of people now have guns. The situation is so out of hand that everyone needs to be armed just in case. When do you think we should all start carrying? College, high school, middle school? You people are ****ing nuts and we've got a murder rate to prove it. I hope Obama does start to take your guns away. You're like stupid children who don't understand the consequences of their actions. Should we cut off dicks in locales with a high unwed mother rate? -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Apr 14, 12:59*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:59:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Apr 14, 2:10*am, jps wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------**------ That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. *But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. *Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. *The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? *They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. *Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. *And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. *But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. *Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. *34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. Without firearms, that one person could have killed far more than 34 using poison in the cafeteria. Without firearms, a few guys killed over 3000 on 9/11. Poison and airplanes are far more efficient than an AK. *Hollywood has glamorized the guns, and the liberals have steered society into losing the moral and family values that would otherwise stop a sane person from radomly using a weapons against others. The guns are here to stay. *Concentrate your efforts on fixing society, where the real problem is. LIberals have steered society into losing the moral and family values that would otherwise stop a sane person from randomly using a weapon against others. Wow. *Care to explain? Are you saying that the conservatives are the ones that champion single parent families (that produce 80% of the violent criminals), favor leiniency on criminals, are anti-christian and family values, protected the Fannie / Freddie fiasco that has stripped many hard working folks of their homes and de-stabilized our economy, and have generally chipped away at the moral fabric of our country for the last 50 years? Of course not, that would be the liberals. Did you hear Diane Feinstein tell 60 minutes that the NRA has most of congress in their pocket? You're quoting Fienstein? "Feinstein said on CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995, "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." Yeah, she's believable when it comes to guns and the NRA. ~snerk~ You no longer have any credibility. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
"jps" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:22:49 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message t... wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. 34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. The thugs of Tammany Hall beat the livin' snot out of a lot of folks and I'm sure plenty disappeared but it wasn't the sort of random mayhem an assault rifle can cause. There were places in NYC the cops would not go. And they also had cap and ball revolvers. Not high capacity fully auto arms. The Romans in taking Scotland killed 10,000 and lost 360 of their troops in one battle. That was about 80 AD. Not a lot of guns available. People kill people. Samson used a jawbone of an Ass to kill 1000 Philistines according to the Old Testament. So that makes it BC. You're quoting war. What's the ratio between American dead and Iraqi combatants? We're not talking war, unless you're talking about the one manufactured by gun manufacturers and the NRA. Nope, we were talking about guns facilitating killing. Seems as if killing goes wholesale without guns. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:20:04 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:22:49 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message om... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message et... wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. 34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. The thugs of Tammany Hall beat the livin' snot out of a lot of folks and I'm sure plenty disappeared but it wasn't the sort of random mayhem an assault rifle can cause. There were places in NYC the cops would not go. And they also had cap and ball revolvers. Not high capacity fully auto arms. The Romans in taking Scotland killed 10,000 and lost 360 of their troops in one battle. That was about 80 AD. Not a lot of guns available. People kill people. Samson used a jawbone of an Ass to kill 1000 Philistines according to the Old Testament. So that makes it BC. You're quoting war. What's the ratio between American dead and Iraqi combatants? We're not talking war, unless you're talking about the one manufactured by gun manufacturers and the NRA. Nope, we were talking about guns facilitating killing. Seems as if killing goes wholesale without guns. Okay, then let's talk about the difference between a declared war and a lunatic going postal on his fellow citizens or family. I don't consider them the same. The closest we've gotten in domestic terrorism is McVeigh's fertilizer bomb. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
"jps" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:20:04 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:22:49 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message news:p9l7u4118158qtoduvcoj6h3rba8uuvm2a@4ax. com... On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:06:34 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . net... wrote in message ... COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - It is a story bound to re-ignite debate about concealed weapons permits in the Palmetto State. On Saturday night, police say a man was shot and killed when he tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. For the second time in two months, law enforcement says the response is appropriate. "We've got a violent society. Times have changed. It's not the 60s and the 70s, when you didn't have people with guns. You have bad guys now and they all have guns. They're committing more serious crimes against people. So I think the fact that we've got law enforcement being assisted by citizens who are properly trained and armed, are helping us out," said Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott. Saturday's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old armed robbery suspect in Five Points follows last month's retaliation by an Irmo pizza deliveryman. In that incident, investigators say the victim had been physically assaulted before he pulled out a gun and killed his attacker. In both cases, the men who fired back had valid concealed weapons permits. State Law Enforcement Division figures show steady increases in the number of South Carolinians applying for and receiving those permits. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a law enforcement expert saying that guns in the hands of law- abiding citizens is a good thing. But, he's not a hand-wringing pantywaist. Why don't you just go back to your frontier days. Everyone can pack a couple of six shooters in western style holsters. You could even use gunfights like the old quick draw method to settle disputes. My question to you...would the palm sisters prefer the six guns over your shortcomings? Actually the wild west was more dangerous from accidents. The most dangerous place in the "Wild West" days was NYC. Geez, I wonder why NYC would be the most dangerous place? They didn't have black or hispanic gangs. Must have been the immigrants. Could it be that more people congregated in NYC? Tammany Society controlled NYC. And you do realize that they were a society of the worst gangs. Oh yeah. But they couldn't kill with the efficiency of a AK. Look at what happened at Virginia Tech. 34 people in a matter of minutes. That's a declaration of war by one person. The thugs of Tammany Hall beat the livin' snot out of a lot of folks and I'm sure plenty disappeared but it wasn't the sort of random mayhem an assault rifle can cause. There were places in NYC the cops would not go. And they also had cap and ball revolvers. Not high capacity fully auto arms. The Romans in taking Scotland killed 10,000 and lost 360 of their troops in one battle. That was about 80 AD. Not a lot of guns available. People kill people. Samson used a jawbone of an Ass to kill 1000 Philistines according to the Old Testament. So that makes it BC. You're quoting war. What's the ratio between American dead and Iraqi combatants? We're not talking war, unless you're talking about the one manufactured by gun manufacturers and the NRA. Nope, we were talking about guns facilitating killing. Seems as if killing goes wholesale without guns. Okay, then let's talk about the difference between a declared war and a lunatic going postal on his fellow citizens or family. I don't consider them the same. The closest we've gotten in domestic terrorism is McVeigh's fertilizer bomb. Yup, the fertilizer kill a lot of people. No guns involved. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:49:10 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . We're not talking war, unless you're talking about the one manufactured by gun manufacturers and the NRA. Nope, we were talking about guns facilitating killing. Seems as if killing goes wholesale without guns. Okay, then let's talk about the difference between a declared war and a lunatic going postal on his fellow citizens or family. I don't consider them the same. The closest we've gotten in domestic terrorism is McVeigh's fertilizer bomb. Yup, the fertilizer kill a lot of people. No guns involved. It'd be inefficient to try to bring a building down with a gun. Wrong tool for the job. Plus, it would have been next to impossible to kill 168 of your fellow citizens with firearms without attracting the attention of the security guards at the US Federal Building. Pardon my oversight but I've yet to hear of a convenience store robbery or home invasion where perps threatened the victims with fertilizer. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:49:10 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: I don't consider them the same. The closest we've gotten in domestic terrorism is McVeigh's fertilizer bomb. Yup, the fertilizer kill a lot of people. No guns involved. McVeigh's grandfather introduced McVeigh to guns, and he grew fascinated by them. McVeigh told people he wanted to be a gun shop owner, and he sometimes took a gun to school to impress the other boys. After graduating high school with honors, McVeigh became intensely interested in gun rights and the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, and read magazines such as Soldier of Fortune. He went to work for Burke Armored Car Service. McVeigh was known throughout his life as a loner; his only known affiliations were voter registration with the Republican Party when he lived in New York, and a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military.[8] Despite the former, McVeigh self-identified as a libertarian in a statement that was reported by MSNBC.com and The Washington Post;[9] and in 1996, while in federal prison, he voted for Libertarian candidate Harry Browne in the United States presidential election, 1996.[10] The LP said that he violated the nonaggression principle and thus was not a true libertarian. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Apr 14, 2:48*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:55:27 -0700 (PDT), wrote: LIberals have steered society into losing the moral and family values that would otherwise stop a sane person from randomly using a weapon against others. Wow. *Care to explain? Are you saying that the conservatives are the ones that champion single parent families (that produce 80% of the violent criminals), favor leiniency on criminals, are anti-christian and family values, protected the Fannie / Freddie fiasco that has stripped many hard working folks of their homes and de-stabilized our economy, and have generally chipped away at the moral fabric of our country for the last 50 years? *Of course not, that would be the liberals. Did you hear Diane Feinstein tell 60 minutes that the NRA has most of congress in their pocket? With you as the judge? *I can handle that. Excuse me, but the "conservatives" are who favor jails over treatment, police over job training, the ability to discriminate over the need to create opportunity. Your kind want to deal with the problems your shortsightedness creates rather than building a society that would minimize the problems. Yes, liberals "champion" single parent families as if we want more of them... How the hell does your brain make that connection? Liberals have a history of looking after clean water, clean air, car safety, work safety, equality between races, sexes, religions, collective bargaining so workers aren't slaves, child labor laws - true conservatism as in let's not plunder and spoil our environment and resources in pursuit of money. You'd happily throw that away and live in a cancerous sewer if your house could be bigger and you could drive a nicer car? *What's the upside for you? Do you think being a single parent is a curse? *The fault of the single parent? Is this code for single black inner city mother who makes babies in order to increase her welfare payments so she can afford a Caddy? Do you consider yourself a Christian? The trouble with your thinking is that it's so damned simple. *Complex problems aren't reducible to simple, bumper sticker solutions as your lot favors. Heh, heh... You're so inflamed, you snipped too much of the original post so that yours has no reference to make sense, and you posted twice. Hilarious. Wipe the spittle off the screen, and try to understand: Using statements like "your type" is a vain attempt to lump me into a fictitious group of people that only exists in your mind. Conservatives, like liberals, run a wide variety of beliefs, and even have shared beliefs between the two groups. Once you get out of the simple mindset you're carrying, you might see shade of grey, instead of black and white. You act as if this is a team sporting event. You know very little of what I believe, or what positions I hold concerning many of the issues you list. I've simply provided counterpoint to your bumper sticker beliefs that guns are bad. You've gone on a rampage here in a boating NG trying to stir up debate, then if anyone dares to provide a counterpoint, you call them a conservative and "your type". That's a weak strategy. I don't speak in code. That seems to be your pot of tea. I do wonder why you picked the example you did... projecting a bit? Am I a christian? Why would it matter to you, or to this issue? Are you biggoted against christians, and are just looking for a point to attack? Bottom line is, there is overwhelming evidence that a child raised in a home with both a man and a woman as parents, rooted in a religious belief system, produces the best chance for a well adjusted, law abiding, sucessful and non-violent adult. The liberal movement has been the single most enabling element to move our society away from this norm over the last 50 years. The liberals most certainly created this mess, and try to bumper sticker their way out of it. "It Takes a Village to Raise a Child". BS. It takes a family, with both parents, male and female, and a solid set of moral values and influences to raise a child. Government can not do it, it is the most corrupt thing, on BOTH sides of the aisle, that I can think of. I suspect that is our biggest difference of opinion. The liberal movement and Hollywood have done more damage to our society than conservatives could ever do. Now that "your type" has unleashed the beast, you're just trying to limit the amount of damage it can do. All the while sitting back and blaming everyone else but yourselves. Typical liberal. Chew on that, then post away. I'm done. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:49:37 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote: The liberal movement and Hollywood have done more damage to our society than conservatives could ever do. Now that "your type" has unleashed the beast, you're just trying to limit the amount of damage it can do. All the while sitting back and blaming everyone else but yourselves. Typical liberal. Chew on that, then post away. I'm done. Wow...a bigoted Republican conservative lecturing on morality. "...Unleashed the beast..." A gun righs advocate, self-problaimed "conservative" who supported GW Bush's war and hates liberals is claiming that liberals have unleashed the beast... That's rich. You'd be living in a cancerous cesspool if it werern't for "liberals" but you're too stupid to recognize it. Maybe you'll be among the pussies who take the easy way out with a gun. Let's hope you don't take any collateral with you. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Using statements like "your type" is a vain attempt to lump me into a fictitious group of people that only exists in your mind. You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
jps wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Using statements like "your type" is a vain attempt to lump me into a fictitious group of people that only exists in your mind. You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. Betcha he owns and flies a confederate battle flag... -- " |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:39:35 -0400, HK wrote:
jps wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Using statements like "your type" is a vain attempt to lump me into a fictitious group of people that only exists in your mind. You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. Betcha he owns and flies a confederate battle flag... In the den next to an autographed picture of Dale Earnhardt and his high school diploma. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:47:50 -0700, jps wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:39:35 -0400, HK wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Using statements like "your type" is a vain attempt to lump me into a fictitious group of people that only exists in your mind. You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. Betcha he owns and flies a confederate battle flag... In the den next to an autographed picture of Dale Earnhardt and his high school diploma. It's good to see you've developed a close friendship. Congratulations. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
jps wrote:
You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. When one is so irrational as to assign the country's ills to guns, it becomes apparent that the real agenda is not the one stated: reducing crime by banning gun ownership by the citizens. Guns have suddenly become a major issue for you, Mr. JPS. We've heard precious little from you since you incorrectly called the presidential election some years ago. What's changed? Now that you've finally got your candidate elected, we're to believe that you've become worried about gun ownership, that you feel your security is threatened by those who own guns -- not just by criminals who own and use them them to commit crimes -- but also by responsible gun owners: you want to disarm them also. To make your argument seem reasonable, you single out criminal acts involving guns, and then extrapolate to all gun owners, coyly mentioning 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. This is revealing since few of the crimes committed with guns are committed by those who would describe themselves as 'righties, christians, or conservatives'. Could you cite cases? of course -- those are the very cases you delight to cite in order to associate criminal acts with 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. Those are your true target. Rather, the agenda is control - controlling people and controlling the population. If the citizens of a country are allowed to own guns, you may never be able to control them completely. Remember, those citizens who are 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who own guns: you believe they are a threat to you also, for you want gun ownership banned to all, not just those who have committed criminal acts. Where the agenda under the new leader is the social engineering of the population, and where a portion of that population (designated as 'righties, christians, and conservatives') are resistive to such social engineering, and own guns, then the fear becomes that there could possibly be, at some future time, an armed resistance to tyrannical leadership. Therefore they must be disarmed. (Why, just listen to the rising chorus of righty, christian, conservative bloggers, talk shows, etc., to resist the social engineering and tyranny!) What better way to remove the perceived threat than by removing all guns from the citizens under the guise of reducing crime? Do it now while the true agenda remains hidden. Brilliant! I don't believe your gun banning proposal is for the purpose of reducing criminal acts involving guns. It's a façade. You've revealed your true motive by involving 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who have never committed crimes, much less a crime with a gun. Johnson |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Apr 14, 5:51*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:47:50 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:39:35 -0400, HK wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Using statements like "your type" is a vain attempt to lump me into a fictitious group of people that only exists in your mind. You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. *Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. Betcha he owns and flies a confederate battle flag... In the den *next to an autographed picture of Dale Earnhardt and his high school diploma. It's good to see you've developed a close friendship. Congratulations. -- John H It's funny that when they read the truth, and it disturbs them, they circle the wagons and start throwing out imaginary insults. I thought that was a harry thing, but it appears it's just a weak liberal tactic. The great liberal experiment failed miserably, and now they want to try more social engineering and disarmament to control the damage. No thanks. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:10:50 -0400, Johnson
wrote: jps wrote: You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. When one is so irrational as to assign the country's ills to guns, it becomes apparent that the real agenda is not the one stated: reducing crime by banning gun ownership by the citizens. Guns have suddenly become a major issue for you, Mr. JPS. We've heard precious little from you since you incorrectly called the presidential election some years ago. What's changed? Now that you've finally got your candidate elected, we're to believe that you've become worried about gun ownership, that you feel your security is threatened by those who own guns -- not just by criminals who own and use them them to commit crimes -- but also by responsible gun owners: you want to disarm them also. To make your argument seem reasonable, you single out criminal acts involving guns, and then extrapolate to all gun owners, coyly mentioning 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. This is revealing since few of the crimes committed with guns are committed by those who would describe themselves as 'righties, christians, or conservatives'. Could you cite cases? of course -- those are the very cases you delight to cite in order to associate criminal acts with 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. Those are your true target. Rather, the agenda is control - controlling people and controlling the population. If the citizens of a country are allowed to own guns, you may never be able to control them completely. Remember, those citizens who are 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who own guns: you believe they are a threat to you also, for you want gun ownership banned to all, not just those who have committed criminal acts. Where the agenda under the new leader is the social engineering of the population, and where a portion of that population (designated as 'righties, christians, and conservatives') are resistive to such social engineering, and own guns, then the fear becomes that there could possibly be, at some future time, an armed resistance to tyrannical leadership. Therefore they must be disarmed. (Why, just listen to the rising chorus of righty, christian, conservative bloggers, talk shows, etc., to resist the social engineering and tyranny!) What better way to remove the perceived threat than by removing all guns from the citizens under the guise of reducing crime? Do it now while the true agenda remains hidden. Brilliant! I don't believe your gun banning proposal is for the purpose of reducing criminal acts involving guns. It's a façade. You've revealed your true motive by involving 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who have never committed crimes, much less a crime with a gun. Johnson I haven't just become concerned about guns, I've been concerned about guns, the NRA and lunatics having access to guns for quite some time. My security isn't threatened and I don't feel a need to arm myself. We enjoy the highest rate of suicide and murder via firearms in the world. Does that bring you comfort? If you've been paying attention to the news, the issue of guns has thrust itself to the front pages of every newspaper and website in the country. Dead cops in CA Dead cops in PA Dead immigrants in NY Are you happy with this situation? Do you think it's going to help recruit new people to serve as police? Do you think this may cause to the police to be so on edge that they make mistakes and kill innocent people? Do you give a **** about the consequences of having guns in wide distribution with open outlets in many states where a complete lunatic could purchase an assault rifle without so much as a piece of ID or any background check? How difficult is it for scum bags to go purchase a gaggle of guns in one of these unregulated states and resell them to crooks, hoodlums, other scum looking to profit? The NRA and gun advocates are so short sighted that they cannot see the trajectory of their victories. For gun manufacturers it's a brilliant business plan. For the NRA, more members. For the public at large, a more dangerous world where guns are within easy reach of even children. The fools who promoted this situation and stood by while it festered deserve a good spanking, like foolish children lacking any sense. armed resistance to tyrannical leadership This just says it all. Did George Bush bring this on or was it Obama's election that's fomented this delusional paranoia? Are you going to cite Hitler, Stalin or Mussolini next? |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:32:02 -0700, jps wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:10:50 -0400, Johnson wrote: jps wrote: You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. When one is so irrational as to assign the country's ills to guns, it becomes apparent that the real agenda is not the one stated: reducing crime by banning gun ownership by the citizens. Guns have suddenly become a major issue for you, Mr. JPS. We've heard precious little from you since you incorrectly called the presidential election some years ago. What's changed? Now that you've finally got your candidate elected, we're to believe that you've become worried about gun ownership, that you feel your security is threatened by those who own guns -- not just by criminals who own and use them them to commit crimes -- but also by responsible gun owners: you want to disarm them also. To make your argument seem reasonable, you single out criminal acts involving guns, and then extrapolate to all gun owners, coyly mentioning 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. This is revealing since few of the crimes committed with guns are committed by those who would describe themselves as 'righties, christians, or conservatives'. Could you cite cases? of course -- those are the very cases you delight to cite in order to associate criminal acts with 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. Those are your true target. Rather, the agenda is control - controlling people and controlling the population. If the citizens of a country are allowed to own guns, you may never be able to control them completely. Remember, those citizens who are 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who own guns: you believe they are a threat to you also, for you want gun ownership banned to all, not just those who have committed criminal acts. Where the agenda under the new leader is the social engineering of the population, and where a portion of that population (designated as 'righties, christians, and conservatives') are resistive to such social engineering, and own guns, then the fear becomes that there could possibly be, at some future time, an armed resistance to tyrannical leadership. Therefore they must be disarmed. (Why, just listen to the rising chorus of righty, christian, conservative bloggers, talk shows, etc., to resist the social engineering and tyranny!) What better way to remove the perceived threat than by removing all guns from the citizens under the guise of reducing crime? Do it now while the true agenda remains hidden. Brilliant! I don't believe your gun banning proposal is for the purpose of reducing criminal acts involving guns. It's a façade. You've revealed your true motive by involving 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who have never committed crimes, much less a crime with a gun. Johnson I haven't just become concerned about guns, I've been concerned about guns, the NRA and lunatics having access to guns for quite some time. My security isn't threatened and I don't feel a need to arm myself. We enjoy the highest rate of suicide and murder via firearms in the world. Does that bring you comfort? If you've been paying attention to the news, the issue of guns has thrust itself to the front pages of every newspaper and website in the country. Dead cops in CA Dead cops in PA Dead immigrants in NY Are you happy with this situation? Do you think it's going to help recruit new people to serve as police? Do you think this may cause to the police to be so on edge that they make mistakes and kill innocent people? Do you give a **** about the consequences of having guns in wide distribution with open outlets in many states where a complete lunatic could purchase an assault rifle without so much as a piece of ID or any background check? How difficult is it for scum bags to go purchase a gaggle of guns in one of these unregulated states and resell them to crooks, hoodlums, other scum looking to profit? The NRA and gun advocates are so short sighted that they cannot see the trajectory of their victories. For gun manufacturers it's a brilliant business plan. For the NRA, more members. For the public at large, a more dangerous world where guns are within easy reach of even children. The fools who promoted this situation and stood by while it festered deserve a good spanking, like foolish children lacking any sense. armed resistance to tyrannical leadership This just says it all. Did George Bush bring this on or was it Obama's election that's fomented this delusional paranoia? Are you going to cite Hitler, Stalin or Mussolini next? Do you think guns cause more suffering than AIDS? There is an epidemic in Washington DC right now. I've seen no cries for help with this problem. Why is that? You're pathetic, jps. But, you've chosen an appropriate acronym. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:20:17 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote: On Apr 14, 5:51 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:47:50 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:39:35 -0400, HK wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Using statements like "your type" is a vain attempt to lump me into a fictitious group of people that only exists in your mind. You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. Betcha he owns and flies a confederate battle flag... In the den next to an autographed picture of Dale Earnhardt and his high school diploma. It's good to see you've developed a close friendship. Congratulations. -- John H It's funny that when they read the truth, and it disturbs them, they circle the wagons and start throwing out imaginary insults. I thought that was a harry thing, but it appears it's just a weak liberal tactic. The great liberal experiment failed miserably, and now they want to try more social engineering and disarmament to control the damage. No thanks. Wow...two of rec.boats' foremost racists, Herring and Jackoff, together again at last! Oh no, we have no idea about their true thoughts. They post random insights from various points of view to enlighten us. It's purely by chance that they scream pointy hat. |
Sheriff says concealed carry law is helping
On Apr 14, 7:48*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:32:02 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:10:50 -0400, Johnson wrote: jps wrote: You expound and defend the same positions that other "conservatives" spout. *Don't bother hiding behind your proposed "devil's advocate" status, since everyone knows it's bull****. When one is so irrational as to assign the country's ills to guns, it becomes apparent that the real agenda is not the one stated: reducing crime by banning gun ownership by the citizens. Guns have suddenly become a major issue for you, Mr. JPS. We've heard precious little from you since you incorrectly called the presidential election some years ago. What's changed? Now that you've finally got your candidate elected, we're to believe that you've become worried about gun ownership, that you feel your security is threatened by those who own guns -- not just by criminals who own and use them them to commit crimes -- but also by responsible gun owners: you want to disarm them also. To make your argument seem reasonable, you single out criminal acts involving guns, and then extrapolate to all gun owners, coyly mentioning 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. This is revealing since few of the crimes committed with guns are committed by those who would describe themselves as 'righties, christians, or conservatives'. Could you cite cases? of course -- those are the very cases you delight to cite in order to associate criminal acts with 'righties, christians, and conservatives'. Those are your true target. Rather, the agenda is control - controlling people and controlling the population. If the citizens of a country are allowed to own guns, you may never be able to control them completely. Remember, those citizens who are 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who own guns: you believe they are a threat to you also, for you want gun ownership banned to all, not just those who have committed criminal acts. Where the agenda under the new leader is the social engineering of the population, and where a portion of that population (designated as 'righties, christians, and conservatives') are resistive to such social engineering, and own guns, then the fear becomes that there could possibly be, at some future time, an armed resistance to tyrannical leadership. Therefore they must be disarmed. (Why, just listen to the rising chorus of righty, christian, conservative bloggers, talk shows, etc., to resist the social engineering and tyranny!) What better way to remove the perceived threat than by removing all guns from the citizens under the guise of reducing crime? Do it now while the true agenda remains hidden. Brilliant! I don't believe your gun banning proposal is for the purpose of reducing criminal acts involving guns. It's a façade. You've revealed your true motive by involving 'righties, christians, and conservatives' who have never committed crimes, much less a crime with a gun. Johnson I haven't just become concerned about guns, I've been concerned about guns, the NRA and lunatics having access to guns for quite some time. My security isn't threatened and I don't feel a need to arm myself. We enjoy the highest rate of suicide and murder via firearms in the world. *Does that bring you comfort? If you've been paying attention to the news, the issue of guns has thrust itself to the front pages of every newspaper and website in the country. Dead cops in CA Dead cops in PA Dead immigrants in NY Are you happy with this situation? *Do you think it's going to help recruit new people to serve as police? *Do you think this may cause to the police to be so on edge that they make mistakes and kill innocent people? Do you give a **** about the consequences of having guns in wide distribution with open outlets in many states where a complete lunatic could purchase an assault rifle without so much as a piece of ID or any background check? How difficult is it for scum bags to go purchase a gaggle of guns in one of these unregulated states and resell them to crooks, hoodlums, other scum looking to profit? The NRA and gun advocates are so short sighted that they cannot see the trajectory of their victories. *For gun manufacturers it's a brilliant business plan. *For the NRA, more members. *For the public at large, a more dangerous world where guns are within easy reach of even children. The fools who promoted this situation and stood by while it festered deserve a good spanking, like foolish children lacking any sense. armed resistance to tyrannical leadership This just says it all. *Did George Bush bring this on or was *it Obama's election that's fomented this delusional *paranoia? Are you going to cite Hitler, Stalin or Mussolini next? Do you think guns cause more suffering than AIDS? There is an epidemic in Washington DC right now. I've seen no cries for help with this problem. Why is that? You're pathetic, jps. But, you've chosen an appropriate acronym. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." * Thomas Jefferson jps is certifiably insane. harold has his own personal nurse. |
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