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On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:34:48 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:20 am, jps wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:03:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Apr 5, 10:05 pm, jps wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:05:10 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
The tragedies in NY, PA and now WA could have been averted if everyone
owned and carried a gun. We clearly need to arm everyone, including
small children who may otherwise fall victim to their own parents.
We also need to adopt a policy of shooting first and asking the
questions later. Everyone is a suspected perpetrator until an autopsy
proves otherwise.
We should also get the word out as quickly as possible that Obama
plans on taking our guns away so we can get some use out of them
before that day comes.
Mostly, we need guns to deal with people like you.
Yes, surely. If one of your children turn out like me you'll take care
of them with a gun before they have a chance to do you in.
Not much chance of fleeing when your floor plan is double wide.
Relax man, none of my kids turned out like you.
They're sane.
I'm totally relaxed so no need to worry. It's the buffoons who think
Obama's coming to take their guns away that need to relax.

And I'm sure there's little chance you'd have had a kid like me.
First, you'd have had to attract a mate with a 200+ IQ to come close
to producing a child like me. I'm sure the odds were orders of
magnitude short of likely. Second, oh hell I don't even need a second
reason.

No worries tho', I'm sure your kids are considered competent to stand
trial in any southern court and probably even smart enough to fill out
the paperwork necessary to be granted a concealed carry permit.- Hide quoted text -

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Whooo boy... Three story 3400 square foot house and a wife with a 200+
IQ... LOL. You are getting as good as Harry, or bad, however you look
at it snerk... And I am the Queen of England;)

I don't understand why these alleged holders of such high IQ's bother to
come around here and mix with the uneducated masses. It must be because
Mensa rejected them for being too smart or that Mensa determined that
someone else took the entrance test for them.

Do you have something intelligent to say about the proliferation of
guns or gun deaths? Of like the other freaks, can you only argue that
I'm too stupid to understand how guns improve our lives?

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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:51:37 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:03:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 5, 10:05 pm, jps wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:05:10 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:





"jps" wrote in message
.. .
The tragedies in NY, PA and now WA could have been averted if
everyone
owned and carried a gun. We clearly need to arm everyone, including
small children who may otherwise fall victim to their own parents.

We also need to adopt a policy of shooting first and asking the
questions later. Everyone is a suspected perpetrator until an autopsy
proves otherwise.

We should also get the word out as quickly as possible that Obama
plans on taking our guns away so we can get some use out of them
before that day comes.

Mostly, we need guns to deal with people like you.

Yes, surely. If one of your children turn out like me you'll take care
of them with a gun before they have a chance to do you in.

Not much chance of fleeing when your floor plan is double wide.

Relax man, none of my kids turned out like you.

They're sane.

I'm totally relaxed so no need to worry. It's the buffoons who think
Obama's coming to take their guns away that need to relax.

And I'm sure there's little chance you'd have had a kid like me.
First, you'd have had to attract a mate with a 200+ IQ to come close
to producing a child like me. I'm sure the odds were orders of
magnitude short of likely. Second, oh hell I don't even need a second
reason.

No worries tho', I'm sure your kids are considered competent to stand
trial in any southern court and probably even smart enough to fill out
the paperwork necessary to be granted a concealed carry permit.

A man with such a high IQ should know that the movement to disarm America is
not a false idea. You need to direct your intelligence to that for a while.

BTW, all my children are above average, and all good looking. I truly wish
the country had more like them. All four college grads. Three of them
parents, the youngest getting his masters right now, and wants to wait. But
he was engaged to a Mensa girl, and found her boring. Imagine that. One
Mensa finding another boring. Go figger.

IQ doesn't guarantee a personality at any point along the curve, or is
IQ an indicator of common sense.

People who defend the proliferation of guns have little common sense.
No one is arguing to disarm America, that's what drove the lunatic in
PA to kill cops and stupid people to "cling to their guns." Obama
told the truth but simple folks (you?) couldn't handle the reflection
in the mirror.

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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:36:36 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"jps" wrote

Congratulations on having gun carrying kids. I hope they never find
themselves in a situation that'd cause them to discharge their weapons
in the direction of another human being, either by necessity or
mistakenly.

My "kids" are 26, 30, 34, and 40 years old. Apparently you don't know this,
but in order to get a CCF, one must pass several levels of investigation,
the FBI and AFIS being two of them. The sargent in the police force has
been involved in one firefight, and used his AR15. "Mistakenly" shooting in
another person's direction is a violation of the law.


I wish they didn't feel the necessity to carry weapons at all but, in
support of free capitalism, gun manufacturers have been certain to
make them readily available by the thousands at cheap prices for any
goon to purchase. They've purchased the freedom of legislation that
would've put any reasonable restrictions on their easy availability.

Nah, those nasty framers of the Constitution did it by a secret conspiracy.
And I choose to let my children make their own choices rather than "wishing"
about their conduct.

And the idiots who want to prevent checks on those who purchase at gun
shows also paid their way to prevent legislation.

You got records? I'm sure the ATF would be interested. What's that? You
dog ate your evidence? Is he an antigunner, too?

You must admit, when a person owns multiple registered guns, has CCF permits
that are reciprocal in up to 39 states, and has proper identification,
making them wait for a waiting period is just a little silly. If they
wanted to shoot someone, wouldn't they just go home and get a gun they
ALREADY HAVE?

I'd be curious to know how your police officer son feels about the
lack of restrictions on gun show sales. And how he feels about the
availabiity of bullets available to the general public designed to rip
flesh to bits.

He dislikes it as much as any man. He is a realist, and knows that his main
job is to protect good people from bad ones. And he is also realistic
enough to know that guns are simple to buy on the streets. Has legislation
helped Washington D.C.? Or New York City? Or .......?

My double wide is 3400 square feel and three floors high.

Well, save yer money and get indoor plumbing and electricity. Set your
goals high.

A housewife with a CCF permit? Does she shoot skeet at the market or
as she's taking the kids to school? Where will this insanity lead?

She shoots for fun. She used to go quail hunting with me, then she grew up
and went to college and got married and had kids, so now she has to fulfill
her Fearless Fosdick fantasy with murdering poor little skeets. But she
does carry a gun most of the time she leaves the house. She worked for the
State of ******** for a good while in their courts system, and knows that
there are bad people in this world.


I'll tell you where. To a trailer park in Washington State where 5
kids were shot to death by an emotionally unstable father. To 14
people dead at an immigrants center, with 3 cops dead one week and 4
the next.

And there will be more this week and next. You can't stop the crazy people
in the world. Pol Pot and the Khymer Rouge killed thousands by pounding
stakes into their medulla because they did not want to waste the money on
bullets. And to take the guns away from all would only allow all the
Obamaites, his ilk, and future ilk from robbing us of another right tomorrow
and another the next day and another the next day. I think you got a lot
more to worry about than guns, my friend. Next week, your car is going to
be too big and not get enough MPG. After that, your thermostat has been
impounded because they took pictures from a satellite, and your house was
identified as being too warm. (They are already doing this in England and
Europe.) Don't forget the ban on sharp sticks, Ginsu knives, Louisville
Sluggers, and crew socks, which are frequently filled with golf balls and
used to beat people. Oh, yeah, golf balls will then be outlawed, too.

You think every armed is a good idea? That's where we're headed.

I can live with that. Because I don't use them for bad things. I like
Vermont's law. Any person who is carry a concealed firearm with no illegal
intent is not required to have a permit. It's a proven fact that crime has
gone down in states that allow CCF because the wolves now know the sheep may
be armed.

If you want a cause, fight for liberty, and don't let the government strip
it away. You may get your way about guns, but are you really going to turn
in your thermostat and golf balls?

It could happen, and that is where we are REALLY headed.

Steve

I learned as much as I need to when you mentioned "Obamaites and his
ilk robbing..."

Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

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On Apr 6, 10:33*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 6, 5:39 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:34:35 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:05:10 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
news:jklit4hgvuv7foi8no6dr1uht3586phvh4@4ax .com...
The tragedies in NY, PA and now WA could have been averted if
everyone
owned and carried a gun. *We clearly need to arm everyone, including
small children who may otherwise fall victim to their own parents.
We also need to adopt a policy of shooting first and asking the
questions later. *Everyone is a suspected perpetrator until an
autopsy
proves otherwise.
We should also get the word out as quickly as possible that Obama
plans on taking our guns away so we can get some use out of them
before that day comes.
Mostly, we need guns to deal with people like you.
Yes, surely. If one of your children turn out like me you'll take care
of them with a gun before they have a chance to do you in.
Not much chance of fleeing when your floor plan is double wide.
Actually, two of my children hold CCF permits. *One is a commissioned
police officer in a city of more than a million people. *The other is
just a housewife who likes to shoot skeet. *They all know how to
handle guns, and started shooting, the earliest at age 8.
It must be pretty cramped in that double wide.
Steve
Congratulations on having gun carrying kids. *I hope they never find
themselves in a situation that'd cause them to discharge their weapons
in the direction of another human being, either by necessity *or
mistakenly.
I wish they didn't feel the necessity to carry weapons at all but, in
support of free capitalism, gun manufacturers have been certain to
make them readily available by the thousands *at cheap prices for any
goon to purchase. *They've purchased the freedom of legislation that
would've put any reasonable restrictions on their easy availability.
And the idiots who want to prevent checks on those who purchase at gun
shows also paid their way to prevent legislation.
I'd be curious to know how your police officer son feels about the
lack of restrictions on gun show sales. *And how he feels about the
availabiity of bullets available to the general public designed to rip
flesh to bits.
My double wide is 3400 square feel and three floors high.
A housewife with a CCF permit? *Does she shoot skeet at the market or
as she's taking the kids to school? *Where will this insanity lead?
I'll tell you where. *To a trailer park in Washington State where 5
kids were shot to death by an emotionally unstable father. *To 14
people dead at an immigrants center, with 3 cops dead one week and 4
the next.
You think every armed is a good idea? *That's where we're headed.
You and all of the liberals miss the point of the 2nd amendment.
OK, doof, what's the point?

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
in government." *Thomas Jefferson

Oh...that one. Yeah, that'll work. A bunch of goofballs with small arms
are going to stand off the police or a federal agency. That always turns
out the same way...with the goofballs with their hands in the air or dead..

Non sequitur. You asked what the point of the 2nd amendment was, and
I told you, in one of the original framer's own words. Whether or not
it would be effective in today's world was not being discussed.

Try to keep up, will ya?

We need more guns
 

jps wrote:
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:16:51 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Apr 6, 7:29 pm, jps wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:05:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 6, 6:53 pm, jps wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 6, 5:13 pm, jps wrote:
It's laughable that the framers would fear that our present government
would enslave us.
The last 8 years has done more the enslave the American citizen but
you sure as hell didn't hear any bitching as Bush dismantled our
rights and civil liberties. Certainly not from the right.
Think before you write... your two statements above contradict
themselves. Make up your feeble mind.
What you're apparently incapable of understanding is while you're
crying like a freaking baby that Obama is going to take your guns away
while making you a communist, you said nothing of Bush's spying, loss
of due process, bankrupting the country and illegal wars.
To listen to your stupid ranting about guns rights makes me believe
you'd give up all other rights as long as you got to keep your gun.
Gun control all of a sudden becomes "he's going to take all my guns
away."
Talk about feeble minded. Have a look in any reflective object.
Like Vic Smith says, it's all about the money -- your chain has been
thoroughly yanked and shoved up your nose, just like the Xtians who
found themselves rooting for war.
You're a funny guy... I've ranted about nothing. You're the idiot who
is trolling a boating NG with bait about guns, and then whining when
no one will engage you the way you want to be engaged.
I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies in your poorly constructed
rants.
The fact that you live in a scary place, and want the government to
disarm the people around you so you don't have to stay inside, sitting
on your keyboard and whining like a baby isn't lost on anyone.
My advice: grow a pair. And have a nice day. Bang, bang.
I've got a pair. It's you who needs a gun to feel safe.

Sounds like you've got a gun where each of your balls formerly lived.

Bang, bang.
I feel safe. You obviously do not.

Sounds like you've got nothing where your brain formerly lived.

Buh-bye.

I'll bet you feel real safe when you are wearing your white sheet with
the pointy white hat.

Only if he's got a weapon under the sheet. He's in good company here
in rec.boats.

My area of the city would probably scare the **** out of most of these
cretins. All manner of color and preference in a dense urban setting.
My kids will know how to get along with everyone, except perhaps the
rapidly vanishing poor conservative from the south. We'll have to
visit Dollywood before they're extinct.


I frequently visit "dangerous" parts of towns in my work...which
includes going out on construction sites to talk to workers
there...workers of every hue and ethnic background. I've been doing this
for nearly 30 years. Never had a problem at the sites or in their
environs. Of course, were I in threepontangs general area, I'd probably
want to be accompanied by a klansman.


--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

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We need more guns
 

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:37:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 6, 10:33*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 6, 5:39 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:34:35 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:05:10 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
news:jklit4hgvuv7foi8no6dr1uht3586phvh4@4ax .com...
The tragedies in NY, PA and now WA could have been averted if
everyone
owned and carried a gun. *We clearly need to arm everyone, including
small children who may otherwise fall victim to their own parents.
We also need to adopt a policy of shooting first and asking the
questions later. *Everyone is a suspected perpetrator until an
autopsy
proves otherwise.
We should also get the word out as quickly as possible that Obama
plans on taking our guns away so we can get some use out of them
before that day comes.
Mostly, we need guns to deal with people like you.
Yes, surely. If one of your children turn out like me you'll take care
of them with a gun before they have a chance to do you in.
Not much chance of fleeing when your floor plan is double wide.
Actually, two of my children hold CCF permits. *One is a commissioned
police officer in a city of more than a million people. *The other is
just a housewife who likes to shoot skeet. *They all know how to
handle guns, and started shooting, the earliest at age 8.
It must be pretty cramped in that double wide.
Steve
Congratulations on having gun carrying kids. *I hope they never find
themselves in a situation that'd cause them to discharge their weapons
in the direction of another human being, either by necessity *or
mistakenly.
I wish they didn't feel the necessity to carry weapons at all but, in
support of free capitalism, gun manufacturers have been certain to
make them readily available by the thousands *at cheap prices for any
goon to purchase. *They've purchased the freedom of legislation that
would've put any reasonable restrictions on their easy availability.
And the idiots who want to prevent checks on those who purchase at gun
shows also paid their way to prevent legislation.
I'd be curious to know how your police officer son feels about the
lack of restrictions on gun show sales. *And how he feels about the
availabiity of bullets available to the general public designed to rip
flesh to bits.
My double wide is 3400 square feel and three floors high.
A housewife with a CCF permit? *Does she shoot skeet at the market or
as she's taking the kids to school? *Where will this insanity lead?
I'll tell you where. *To a trailer park in Washington State where 5
kids were shot to death by an emotionally unstable father. *To 14
people dead at an immigrants center, with 3 cops dead one week and 4
the next.
You think every armed is a good idea? *That's where we're headed.
You and all of the liberals miss the point of the 2nd amendment.
OK, doof, what's the point?

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
in government." *Thomas Jefferson

Oh...that one. Yeah, that'll work. A bunch of goofballs with small arms
are going to stand off the police or a federal agency. That always turns
out the same way...with the goofballs with their hands in the air or dead.

Non sequitur. You asked what the point of the 2nd amendment was, and
I told you, in one of the original framer's own words. Whether or not
it would be effective in today's world was not being discussed.

Try to keep up, will ya?

You buffoons never take the context of the historical period into
account when citing the framers.

Like the Xtians want to take portions of the bible to prove their
righeousness.

It's laughable that the framers would fear that our present government
would enslave us.

The last 8 years has done more the enslave the American citizen but
you sure as hell didn't hear any bitching as Bush dismantled our
rights and civil liberties. Certainly not from the right.

Laughable.

We need more guns
 

On Apr 6, 5:13*pm, jps wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:37:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:33*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 6, 5:39 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:34:35 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:05:10 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
news:jklit4hgvuv7foi8no6dr1uht3586phvh4@4ax .com...
The tragedies in NY, PA and now WA could have been averted if
everyone
owned and carried a gun. *We clearly need to arm everyone, including
small children who may otherwise fall victim to their own parents.
We also need to adopt a policy of shooting first and asking the
questions later. *Everyone is a suspected perpetrator until an
autopsy
proves otherwise.
We should also get the word out as quickly as possible that Obama
plans on taking our guns away so we can get some use out of them
before that day comes.
Mostly, we need guns to deal with people like you.
Yes, surely. If one of your children turn out like me you'll take care
of them with a gun before they have a chance to do you in.
Not much chance of fleeing when your floor plan is double wide.
Actually, two of my children hold CCF permits. *One is a commissioned
police officer in a city of more than a million people. *The other is
just a housewife who likes to shoot skeet. *They all know how to
handle guns, and started shooting, the earliest at age 8.
It must be pretty cramped in that double wide.
Steve
Congratulations on having gun carrying kids. *I hope they never find
themselves in a situation that'd cause them to discharge their weapons
in the direction of another human being, either by necessity *or
mistakenly.
I wish they didn't feel the necessity to carry weapons at all but, in
support of free capitalism, gun manufacturers have been certain to
make them readily available by the thousands *at cheap prices for any
goon to purchase. *They've purchased the freedom of legislation that
would've put any reasonable restrictions on their easy availability.
And the idiots who want to prevent checks on those who purchase at gun
shows also paid their way to prevent legislation.
I'd be curious to know how your police officer son feels about the
lack of restrictions on gun show sales. *And how he feels about the
availabiity of bullets available to the general public designed to rip
flesh to bits.
My double wide is 3400 square feel and three floors high.
A housewife with a CCF permit? *Does she shoot skeet at the market or
as she's taking the kids to school? *Where will this insanity lead?
I'll tell you where. *To a trailer park in Washington State where 5
kids were shot to death by an emotionally unstable father. *To 14
people dead at an immigrants center, with 3 cops dead one week and 4
the next.
You think every armed is a good idea? *That's where we're headed.
You and all of the liberals miss the point of the 2nd amendment.
OK, doof, what's the point?

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
in government." *Thomas Jefferson

Oh...that one. Yeah, that'll work. A bunch of goofballs with small arms
are going to stand off the police or a federal agency. That always turns
out the same way...with the goofballs with their hands in the air or dead.

Non sequitur. *You asked what the point of the 2nd amendment was, and
I told you, in one of the original framer's own words. *Whether or not
it would be effective in today's world was not being discussed.

Try to keep up, will ya?

You buffoons never take the context of the historical period into
account when citing the framers.


It's laughable that the framers would fear that our present government
would enslave us.

Laughable.

Idiots like you were saying the same thing when Germany dis-armed its
citizens after WWI. That set the stage for Hitler and WWII.

Of course lemming liberals never learn anything from history.

We need more guns
 

On Apr 6, 5:13*pm, jps wrote:


It's laughable that the framers would fear that our present government
would enslave us.

The last 8 years has done more the enslave the American citizen but
you sure as hell didn't hear any bitching as Bush dismantled our
rights and civil liberties. *Certainly not from the right.


Think before you write... your two statements above contradict
themselves. Make up your feeble mind.

We need more guns