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SteveB[_2_] April 4th 09 02:37 AM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 
What's the difference between a boat and a ship?

Steve



Eisboch[_4_] April 4th 09 03:09 AM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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What's the difference between a boat and a ship?

Steve


About a hundred feet.



Wayne.B April 4th 09 03:32 AM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:37:33 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


A ship can carry a boat as cargo.

That's one definition that I've heard more than once.

The international rules of the road, and some CFRs, make a distinction
at 20 meters (65 feet). Boats 20 meters long or more are classed as
"Motor Vessels" and different rules apply in some cases. The CFRs
(Code of Federal Regulations) also have different rules based on
tonnage. Ships are generally many hundreds of tons but there is no
hard and fast rule that I am aware of.


[email protected] April 4th 09 03:56 AM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 
On Apr 3, 9:37*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
What's the difference between a boat and a ship?

Steve


Same difference between Loogy, and a wet stick...ZIP.

[email protected] April 4th 09 12:57 PM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:32:15 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:37:33 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


A ship can carry a boat as cargo.

That's one definition that I've heard more than once.


I've heard it, too. It doesn't wash, though - Unless the U.S.S. Cole
is a boat. It was carried from where it was attacked to the repair
yard by another ship.

A ship is a vessel that is ship rigged.

Beyond that, I don't belive there is any specified line of demarcation
that distinguishes a boat from a ship.

Ship in modern usuage simply refers to a "large vessel".


Richard Casady April 4th 09 03:43 PM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:37:33 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


Mostly size.

Traditionally boats are carried on the deck of a ship, or at least are
small enough to do so. 100 feet is a boat: 200+ is a ship. These
semisubmersibles that can carry a full sized ship, the Cole comes to
mind, blur the original distinction. Also traditionally, the crews of
US subs call their ships " boats ".The fact that the Electric Boat
Company built so many subs may have something to do with it, I don't
really know.

Casady

Calif Bill April 4th 09 04:42 PM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:32:15 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:37:33 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


A ship can carry a boat as cargo.

That's one definition that I've heard more than once.

The international rules of the road, and some CFRs, make a distinction
at 20 meters (65 feet). Boats 20 meters long or more are classed as
"Motor Vessels" and different rules apply in some cases. The CFRs
(Code of Federal Regulations) also have different rules based on
tonnage. Ships are generally many hundreds of tons but there is no
hard and fast rule that I am aware of.

In the US Navy, a boat is always a submarine. All other floating
vessels are ships. For big stuff anywayz.
I remember the PT- "Boats." And skiffs. And shuttles. And of
course, row "boats."
Eddie


My buddy was a submariner, says there were boats (subs) and targets.



Don White April 4th 09 05:45 PM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:37:33 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


Mostly size.

Traditionally boats are carried on the deck of a ship, or at least are
small enough to do so. 100 feet is a boat: 200+ is a ship. These
semisubmersibles that can carry a full sized ship, the Cole comes to
mind, blur the original distinction. Also traditionally, the crews of
US subs call their ships " boats ".The fact that the Electric Boat
Company built so many subs may have something to do with it, I don't
really know.

Casady


Here'a one of the 'lemon' subs we bought from the British getting a free
ride again.
After it's fire off the coast of Britain, it was carried to Halifax a few
years ago.
Now it has hitched a $2 + million ride from Halifax to the west coast.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1114504.html



Wayne.B April 4th 09 06:20 PM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:43:16 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

Also traditionally, the crews of
US subs call their ships " boats ".The fact that the Electric Boat
Company built so many subs may have something to do with it, I don't
really know.


They were originally known as U-boats by just about everyone.


Eisboch[_4_] April 4th 09 08:26 PM

VERY technical question, not for the squeamish ..........
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:43:16 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

Also traditionally, the crews of
US subs call their ships " boats ".The fact that the Electric Boat
Company built so many subs may have something to do with it, I don't
really know.


They were originally known as U-boats by just about everyone.


US subs were called "U" boats? Never new that.
I thought that name was related to the German submarines.

In my prior life in the ancient US Navy, they were always referred to simply
as "Boats".
I had a great experience spending a day on the post WWII sub "USS Pickerel"
while my ship was operating with it for a while testing some new gear.
Three of us transferred at sea from our ship (a Destroyer Escort) to the
Pickerel off the coast of GTMO and spent a day aboard doing several dives
and and an emergency accent. The transfer at sea wasn't exactly a piece of
cake. It was rough and the motor whaleboat (launch) that was trying to get
us onto the deck of the sub was bouncing around pretty good. I remember
having to time my jump from the launch perfectly and had to rely on the crew
members on the sub to grab me, otherwise I'd have been in the drink.

This "Pickerel" was of WWII design, built in 1949, diesel powered
obviously, and was the one featured in the opening scene of a TV series (the
name of which I have forgotten) in which it shoots out of the water, bow
high. I believe there was another USS Pickerel in the early years of WWII
that was sunk and lost.

This site has pictures of it doing an emergency accent similar to that in
the TV series introduction.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...sh-p/ss524.htm

Eisboch




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