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Tim March 27th 09 08:33 PM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Mar 27, 7:02*am, "SteveB" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:25:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


PLUS, I think that hanging around on a computer keyboard isn't
really helping either.


I had that problem when I first started spending a lot of time on
terminals. I got one of those foam cuffs that broke me of the bad
habit of rocking my hands back away from the keyboard while I was
"waiting". Try to keep your wrist straight when you type and get away
from the keyboard when you are waiting.


I can't use anything but a wing shaped keyboard. *Keeping my wrists straight
or using a laptop feels like I'm typing with my hands duct taped together..

STeve


Well, I sacked out with the wrist brace last night,a nd yeah it
s a PITA but I think it helped a bit. My arm felt better this morning,
but I had to take it off for work, but I'll strap it back on when I
get home.

I'm still going to keep the apointment though.....

Tim March 28th 09 11:43 AM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Mar 27, 9:33*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:33:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I can't use anything but a wing shaped keyboard. *Keeping my wrists straight
or using a laptop feels like I'm typing with my hands duct taped together.


STeve


Well, I sacked out with the wrist brace last night,a nd yeah it
s a PITA but I think it helped a bit. My arm felt better this morning,
but I had to take it off for work, but I'll strap it back on when I
get home.


Why can't you wear the brace at work. That may be where you are
getting injured.


it is, but it's kind of hard to hold a hammer or other hand tools
with the wrist brace on.

SteveB[_2_] March 28th 09 07:19 PM

Tennis elbow???
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 27, 9:33 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:33:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I can't use anything but a wing shaped keyboard. Keeping my wrists
straight
or using a laptop feels like I'm typing with my hands duct taped
together.

STeve

Well, I sacked out with the wrist brace last night,a nd yeah it
s a PITA but I think it helped a bit. My arm felt better this morning,
but I had to take it off for work, but I'll strap it back on when I
get home.

Why can't you wear the brace at work. That may be where you are
getting injured.


it is, but it's kind of hard to hold a hammer or other hand tools
with the wrist brace on.


Get a less restrictive brace, like the wrap around cuff. That may
point out a bad habit you have that is making your problem worse.


The one I had that worked the best was a wrap around with velcro closure.
It had a plastic D ring where you'd pass the end through, cinch it up, then
go backward to get the velcro to attach. Wear it on the thickest part of
your forearm. The explanation I got was that the tendons in there "twang"
like guitar strings, and putting it there cut the twang the most.

Steve



Tim March 28th 09 07:57 PM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Mar 28, 2:19*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 27, 9:33 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:33:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


I can't use anything but a wing shaped keyboard. Keeping my wrists
straight
or using a laptop feels like I'm typing with my hands duct taped
together.


STeve


Well, I sacked out with the wrist brace last night,a nd yeah it
s a PITA but I think it helped a bit. My arm felt better this morning,
but I had to take it off for work, but I'll strap it back on when I
get home.


Why can't you wear the brace at work. That may be where you are
getting injured.


it is, but it's kind of hard to hold a hammer or other hand tools
with the wrist brace on.


Get a less restrictive brace, like the wrap around cuff. That may
point out a bad habit you have that is making your problem worse.


The one I had that worked the best was a wrap around with velcro closure.
It had a plastic D ring where you'd pass the end through, cinch it up, then
go backward to get the velcro to attach. *Wear it on the thickest part of
your forearm. *The explanation I got was that the tendons in there "twang"
like guitar strings, and putting it there cut the twang the most.

Steve


That's what I'm going to get this evening. I've noticed various points
of relief by pressing on different places on my arm, so i can adjust
it of the best benefit. But the wrist brace is helping when I wear it
in the evening and at night.

Tim March 28th 09 07:58 PM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Mar 28, 12:20*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Mar 27, 9:33*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:33:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


I can't use anything but a wing shaped keyboard. *Keeping my wrists straight
or using a laptop feels like I'm typing with my hands duct taped together.


STeve


Well, I sacked out with the wrist brace last night,a nd yeah it
s a PITA but I think it helped a bit. My arm felt better this morning,
but I had to take it off for work, but I'll strap it back on when I
get home.


Why can't you wear the brace at work. That may be where you are
getting injured.


it is, but it's kind of hard to hold a hammer or other hand tools
with the wrist brace on.


Get a less restrictive brace, like the wrap around cuff. That may
point out a bad habit you have that is making your problem worse.


I've thougt of that too. by the time I'm done with braces, i might be
armor plated from fist to shoulder.

?;^ Q

John H[_2_] March 28th 09 09:28 PM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 26, 3:58*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Mar 26, 2:08 pm, wrote:



On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


Oh man, my arm hurts. I thought I'd slept on it wrong a couple weeks
ago, but that usually clears up in a day . The problem I'm having is
pain from the outside of the elbow on my right arm and it travels up
to my middle fingers. I know of a few people who have experienced this
and say there is a bad that one can wear around the fore-arm that can
help to get rid of the pain and possible put all back in order, but I
haven't explored the idea yet. It's starting to become difficult to
grip hand tools.


Anybody had any experience with this?


Yup, started with a wrist and now it is both wrists and a knee.


Mine turned out to be some kind of arthritis similar to Rheumatoid but
with a normal RH blood count. Essentially they are baffled.
The place to start is a sport medicine guy tho. They will find all the
easy stuff.
BTW the physical therapist was the real shining star in the whole
miserable, 11 month, 4 different specialist, foray through the medical
establishment.


Bad typing, i did mean to say a "band" instead of a "bad" But this
pain isn't like what one would normally consider as carpal tunnel,
it's on the top side of my arm, instead of deep inside . But anyhow.
More to the story. Like what Don was describing. about 16 years ago I
crushed my right wrist, and I can use my hand fine, but I have limited
use fo my wrist and ever since, it's had a dull pain that you can't
get away from. you just learn that this is the way it is and isn't
going to change.

i use a lot of pheumatic tools like butterfly wrenches and half inch
drive air guns. I'm right handed so it gets used the most and I feel
that because of my work routine over the years, it's catching up to
me. PLUS, I think that hanging around on a computer keyboard isn't
really helping either. so I'm investigating getting a more "egronomic"
keyboard, and chaning the position of the angle of my arm so it's not
in the same place as it was.

I apreciate what harry suggested abotu going to a dr. but I don't
think it's anything serious, but it is worth getting some professional
advice.

About 35 mi. away is an excellent hand specialist who has had a
fantastic practice for over 30 years, and I'm going to call to see
about getting an apointment with him, probably tomorrow.

************************************************** **********************

I see work gloves with a gel 'anti-vibration' system in a local store.
Wonder if they are any good?http://www2.marks.com/productdetails...&terms=work%20...


I've seen those too, and I like that they have a strap around the
wrist. I wonder how they stand up to grease though?


Tim, I've used the gel anti-vibration style motorcycle gloves for
years. I love 'em. Don't know about the grease, but I've put oil on
leather for many years. It seems to help it, not hurt it.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

Tim March 28th 09 09:46 PM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Mar 28, 4:28*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Mar 26, 3:58*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message


....
On Mar 26, 2:08 pm, wrote:


On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


Oh man, my arm hurts. I thought I'd slept on it wrong a couple weeks
ago, but that usually clears up in a day . The problem I'm having is
pain from the outside of the elbow on my right arm and it travels up
to my middle fingers. I know of a few people who have experienced this
and say there is a bad that one can wear around the fore-arm that can
help to get rid of the pain and possible put all back in order, but I
haven't explored the idea yet. It's starting to become difficult to
grip hand tools.


Anybody had any experience with this?


Yup, started with a wrist and now it is both wrists and a knee.


Mine turned out to be some kind of arthritis similar to Rheumatoid but
with a normal RH blood count. Essentially they are baffled.
The place to start is a sport medicine guy tho. They will find all the
easy stuff.
BTW the physical therapist was the real shining star in the whole
miserable, 11 month, 4 different specialist, foray through the medical
establishment.


Bad typing, i did mean to say a "band" instead of a "bad" But this
pain isn't like what one would normally consider as carpal tunnel,
it's on the top side of my arm, instead of deep inside . But anyhow.
More to the story. Like what Don was describing. about 16 years ago I
crushed my right wrist, and I can use my hand fine, but I have limited
use fo my wrist and ever since, it's had a dull pain that you can't
get away from. you just learn that this is the way it is and isn't
going to change.


i use a lot of pheumatic tools like butterfly wrenches and half inch
drive air guns. I'm right handed so it gets used the most and I feel
that because of my work routine over the years, it's catching up to
me. PLUS, I think that hanging around on a computer keyboard isn't
really helping either. so I'm investigating getting a more "egronomic"
keyboard, and chaning the position of the angle of my arm so it's not
in the same place as it was.


I apreciate what harry suggested abotu going to a dr. but I don't
think it's anything serious, but it is worth getting some professional
advice.


About 35 mi. away is an excellent hand specialist who has had a
fantastic practice for over 30 years, and I'm going to call to see
about getting an apointment with him, probably tomorrow.


************************************************** **********************


I see work gloves with a gel 'anti-vibration' system in a local store.
Wonder if they are any good?http://www2.marks.com/productdetails...&terms=work%20...


I've seen those too, and I like that they have a strap around the
wrist. I wonder how they stand up to grease though?


Tim, I've used the gel anti-vibration style motorcycle gloves for
years. I love 'em. Don't know about the grease, but I've put oil on
leather for many years. It seems to help it, not hurt it.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson


Why you wearing those cushion gloves, John?

you don't ride no Harley....

?;^ Q

Don White March 28th 09 10:20 PM

Tennis elbow???
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Mar 28, 4:28 pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Mar 26, 3:58 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message


...
On Mar 26, 2:08 pm, wrote:


On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


Oh man, my arm hurts. I thought I'd slept on it wrong a couple weeks
ago, but that usually clears up in a day . The problem I'm having is
pain from the outside of the elbow on my right arm and it travels up
to my middle fingers. I know of a few people who have experienced
this
and say there is a bad that one can wear around the fore-arm that
can
help to get rid of the pain and possible put all back in order, but
I
haven't explored the idea yet. It's starting to become difficult to
grip hand tools.


Anybody had any experience with this?


Yup, started with a wrist and now it is both wrists and a knee.


Mine turned out to be some kind of arthritis similar to Rheumatoid
but
with a normal RH blood count. Essentially they are baffled.
The place to start is a sport medicine guy tho. They will find all
the
easy stuff.
BTW the physical therapist was the real shining star in the whole
miserable, 11 month, 4 different specialist, foray through the
medical
establishment.


Bad typing, i did mean to say a "band" instead of a "bad" But this
pain isn't like what one would normally consider as carpal tunnel,
it's on the top side of my arm, instead of deep inside . But anyhow.
More to the story. Like what Don was describing. about 16 years ago I
crushed my right wrist, and I can use my hand fine, but I have limited
use fo my wrist and ever since, it's had a dull pain that you can't
get away from. you just learn that this is the way it is and isn't
going to change.


i use a lot of pheumatic tools like butterfly wrenches and half inch
drive air guns. I'm right handed so it gets used the most and I feel
that because of my work routine over the years, it's catching up to
me. PLUS, I think that hanging around on a computer keyboard isn't
really helping either. so I'm investigating getting a more "egronomic"
keyboard, and chaning the position of the angle of my arm so it's not
in the same place as it was.


I apreciate what harry suggested abotu going to a dr. but I don't
think it's anything serious, but it is worth getting some professional
advice.


About 35 mi. away is an excellent hand specialist who has had a
fantastic practice for over 30 years, and I'm going to call to see
about getting an apointment with him, probably tomorrow.


************************************************** **********************


I see work gloves with a gel 'anti-vibration' system in a local store.
Wonder if they are any
good?http://www2.marks.com/productdetails...&terms=work%20...


I've seen those too, and I like that they have a strap around the
wrist. I wonder how they stand up to grease though?


Tim, I've used the gel anti-vibration style motorcycle gloves for
years. I love 'em. Don't know about the grease, but I've put oil on
leather for many years. It seems to help it, not hurt it.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson


Why you wearing those cushion gloves, John?

you don't ride no Harley....

?;^ Q

******************************

~~ Snerk ~~



John H[_2_] March 29th 09 11:54 AM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:46:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 28, 4:28*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Mar 26, 3:58*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message


...
On Mar 26, 2:08 pm, wrote:


On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


Oh man, my arm hurts. I thought I'd slept on it wrong a couple weeks
ago, but that usually clears up in a day . The problem I'm having is
pain from the outside of the elbow on my right arm and it travels up
to my middle fingers. I know of a few people who have experienced this
and say there is a bad that one can wear around the fore-arm that can
help to get rid of the pain and possible put all back in order, but I
haven't explored the idea yet. It's starting to become difficult to
grip hand tools.


Anybody had any experience with this?


Yup, started with a wrist and now it is both wrists and a knee.


Mine turned out to be some kind of arthritis similar to Rheumatoid but
with a normal RH blood count. Essentially they are baffled.
The place to start is a sport medicine guy tho. They will find all the
easy stuff.
BTW the physical therapist was the real shining star in the whole
miserable, 11 month, 4 different specialist, foray through the medical
establishment.


Bad typing, i did mean to say a "band" instead of a "bad" But this
pain isn't like what one would normally consider as carpal tunnel,
it's on the top side of my arm, instead of deep inside . But anyhow.
More to the story. Like what Don was describing. about 16 years ago I
crushed my right wrist, and I can use my hand fine, but I have limited
use fo my wrist and ever since, it's had a dull pain that you can't
get away from. you just learn that this is the way it is and isn't
going to change.


i use a lot of pheumatic tools like butterfly wrenches and half inch
drive air guns. I'm right handed so it gets used the most and I feel
that because of my work routine over the years, it's catching up to
me. PLUS, I think that hanging around on a computer keyboard isn't
really helping either. so I'm investigating getting a more "egronomic"
keyboard, and chaning the position of the angle of my arm so it's not
in the same place as it was.


I apreciate what harry suggested abotu going to a dr. but I don't
think it's anything serious, but it is worth getting some professional
advice.


About 35 mi. away is an excellent hand specialist who has had a
fantastic practice for over 30 years, and I'm going to call to see
about getting an apointment with him, probably tomorrow.


************************************************** **********************


I see work gloves with a gel 'anti-vibration' system in a local store.
Wonder if they are any good?http://www2.marks.com/productdetails...&terms=work%20...


I've seen those too, and I like that they have a strap around the
wrist. I wonder how they stand up to grease though?


Tim, I've used the gel anti-vibration style motorcycle gloves for
years. I love 'em. Don't know about the grease, but I've put oil on
leather for many years. It seems to help it, not hurt it.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson


Why you wearing those cushion gloves, John?

you don't ride no Harley....

?;^ Q


True, but remember that 800 miles on a Guzzi equates to about 64 miles
on a Harley. That's a *lot* of vibration!
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

John H[_2_] March 29th 09 11:58 AM

Tennis elbow???
 
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:20:30 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Mar 28, 4:28 pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Mar 26, 3:58 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message


...
On Mar 26, 2:08 pm, wrote:


On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


Oh man, my arm hurts. I thought I'd slept on it wrong a couple weeks
ago, but that usually clears up in a day . The problem I'm having is
pain from the outside of the elbow on my right arm and it travels up
to my middle fingers. I know of a few people who have experienced
this
and say there is a bad that one can wear around the fore-arm that
can
help to get rid of the pain and possible put all back in order, but
I
haven't explored the idea yet. It's starting to become difficult to
grip hand tools.


Anybody had any experience with this?


Yup, started with a wrist and now it is both wrists and a knee.


Mine turned out to be some kind of arthritis similar to Rheumatoid
but
with a normal RH blood count. Essentially they are baffled.
The place to start is a sport medicine guy tho. They will find all
the
easy stuff.
BTW the physical therapist was the real shining star in the whole
miserable, 11 month, 4 different specialist, foray through the
medical
establishment.


Bad typing, i did mean to say a "band" instead of a "bad" But this
pain isn't like what one would normally consider as carpal tunnel,
it's on the top side of my arm, instead of deep inside . But anyhow.
More to the story. Like what Don was describing. about 16 years ago I
crushed my right wrist, and I can use my hand fine, but I have limited
use fo my wrist and ever since, it's had a dull pain that you can't
get away from. you just learn that this is the way it is and isn't
going to change.


i use a lot of pheumatic tools like butterfly wrenches and half inch
drive air guns. I'm right handed so it gets used the most and I feel
that because of my work routine over the years, it's catching up to
me. PLUS, I think that hanging around on a computer keyboard isn't
really helping either. so I'm investigating getting a more "egronomic"
keyboard, and chaning the position of the angle of my arm so it's not
in the same place as it was.


I apreciate what harry suggested abotu going to a dr. but I don't
think it's anything serious, but it is worth getting some professional
advice.


About 35 mi. away is an excellent hand specialist who has had a
fantastic practice for over 30 years, and I'm going to call to see
about getting an apointment with him, probably tomorrow.


************************************************** **********************


I see work gloves with a gel 'anti-vibration' system in a local store.
Wonder if they are any
good?http://www2.marks.com/productdetails...&terms=work%20...


I've seen those too, and I like that they have a strap around the
wrist. I wonder how they stand up to grease though?


Tim, I've used the gel anti-vibration style motorcycle gloves for
years. I love 'em. Don't know about the grease, but I've put oil on
leather for many years. It seems to help it, not hurt it.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson


Why you wearing those cushion gloves, John?

you don't ride no Harley....

?;^ Q

******************************

~~ Snerk ~~


Don, you just interjected yourself in a conversation between two Moto
Guzzi riders.

You've no idea the amount of ignorance your comment displayed.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson


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