Tim wrote:
On Mar 11, 5:32 pm, Blazer wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:33:28 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"HK" wrote in message
m...
Oh, and when he plays golf, he likes to play on courses paid for and
maintained by the taxpayers.
Blazer wrote:
Wow, you've really got it in for 'Herring'. Are you saying that being a
soldier is a bad thing? And teaching? Do you think it's wrong for someone
to play golf on a public golf
course? I've never heard of a 'free' public golf course, though. Do
they have them where you live?
D'oh.
You aren't a Loogy doppelganger, are you? You come across here just as
stupid as he is. I think you are about ready for the filter dumpster.
No, dummy, I am not claiming being a soldier or a teacher is bad. I have
great respect for teachers.
I have no respect, though, for turds like Herring who spend their entire
life sucking on the taxpayers' teat and then whine about their
misconceptions regarding socialism.
Too subtle for you, right?
Blazer,
You apparently are relatively new here. Allow me to clarify Harry's
statements a bit.
JohnH was drafted into the Army but continued his education leading to a
commission. He served honorably as a career Army officer including at least
one tour (maybe more) in Vietnam.
As you are probably aware the pay scale in the military isn't the highest in
the world. Certainly nowhere near the pay rates for even semi-skilled union
workers in the auto industry. However, JohnH chose to make the military a
career. Someone has to do it.
When you retire from the military after a minimum of 20 years, you receive a
small pension plus certain lifetime benefits for health care and use of
military facilities, including recreational activities such as military
owned golf courses, etc. Not too different from benefits earned by retired
union workers.
However, in Harry's mind people like JohnH who earned these benefits while
earning much less than his civilian counterparts, "spend their entire life
sucking on the taxpayers' teat.
Harry never served in the military.
Hopefully this helps you understand Harry a little more.
Eisboch
That clarifies a lot. Thank you.

BTW. John doesn't toot his own horn, But sort of will. He retired
honorably fromt he US Army with the rank of 0-5 which is Lieutenant
Colonel (Lt.C).

And even with years of service,"O" ranks are earned, not merely
given away.


No big whoop. Really.

On Mar 11, 6:53*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 11, 5:32 pm, Blazer wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:33:28 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
news:iImdnXRKV67nmiXUnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@earthlink .com...
Oh, and when he plays golf, he likes to play on courses paid for and
maintained by the taxpayers.
Blazer wrote:
Wow, you've really got it in for 'Herring'. Are you saying that being a
soldier is a bad thing? And teaching? Do you think it's wrong for someone
to play golf on a public golf
course? I've never heard of a 'free' public golf course, though. Do
they have them where you live?
D'oh.
You aren't a Loogy doppelganger, are you? You come across here just as
stupid as he is. I think you are about ready for the filter dumpster..
No, dummy, I am not claiming being a soldier or a teacher is bad. I have
great respect for teachers.
I have no respect, though, for turds like Herring who spend their entire
life sucking on the taxpayers' teat and then whine about their
misconceptions regarding socialism.
Too subtle for you, right?
Blazer,
You apparently are relatively new here. * Allow me to clarify Harry's
statements a bit.
JohnH was drafted into the Army but continued his education leading to a
commission. *He served honorably as a career Army officer including at least
one tour (maybe more) in Vietnam.
As you are probably aware the pay scale in the military isn't the highest in
the world. *Certainly nowhere near the pay rates for even semi-skilled union
workers in the auto industry. *However, JohnH chose to make the military a
career. *Someone has to do it.
When you retire from the military after a minimum of 20 years, you receive a
small pension plus certain lifetime benefits for health care and use of
military facilities, including recreational activities such as military
owned golf courses, etc. * Not too different from benefits earned by retired
union workers.
However, in Harry's mind people like JohnH who earned these benefits while
earning much less than his civilian counterparts, "spend their entire *life
sucking on the taxpayers' teat.
Harry never served in the military.
Hopefully this helps you understand Harry a little more.
Eisboch
That clarifies a lot. Thank you.

BTW. John doesn't toot his own horn, But *sort of will. He retired
honorably *fromt he US Army with the rank of 0-5 which is Lieutenant
Colonel (Lt.C).

*And even with years of service,"O" *ranks are earned, not merely
given away.

No big whoop. Really.

Neither is paying 35 and 25 years worth of union dues.

Tim wrote:
On Mar 11, 6:53 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 11, 5:32 pm, Blazer wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:33:28 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Oh, and when he plays golf, he likes to play on courses paid for and
maintained by the taxpayers.
Blazer wrote:
Wow, you've really got it in for 'Herring'. Are you saying that being a
soldier is a bad thing? And teaching? Do you think it's wrong for someone
to play golf on a public golf
course? I've never heard of a 'free' public golf course, though. Do
they have them where you live?
D'oh.
You aren't a Loogy doppelganger, are you? You come across here just as
stupid as he is. I think you are about ready for the filter dumpster.
No, dummy, I am not claiming being a soldier or a teacher is bad. I have
great respect for teachers.
I have no respect, though, for turds like Herring who spend their entire
life sucking on the taxpayers' teat and then whine about their
misconceptions regarding socialism.
Too subtle for you, right?
Blazer,
You apparently are relatively new here. Allow me to clarify Harry's
statements a bit.
JohnH was drafted into the Army but continued his education leading to a
commission. He served honorably as a career Army officer including at least
one tour (maybe more) in Vietnam.
As you are probably aware the pay scale in the military isn't the highest in
the world. Certainly nowhere near the pay rates for even semi-skilled union
workers in the auto industry. However, JohnH chose to make the military a
career. Someone has to do it.
When you retire from the military after a minimum of 20 years, you receive a
small pension plus certain lifetime benefits for health care and use of
military facilities, including recreational activities such as military
owned golf courses, etc. Not too different from benefits earned by retired
union workers.
However, in Harry's mind people like JohnH who earned these benefits while
earning much less than his civilian counterparts, "spend their entire life
sucking on the taxpayers' teat.
Harry never served in the military.
Hopefully this helps you understand Harry a little more.
Eisboch
That clarifies a lot. Thank you.
BTW. John doesn't toot his own horn, But sort of will. He retired
honorably fromt he US Army with the rank of 0-5 which is Lieutenant
Colonel (Lt.C).
And even with years of service,"O" ranks are earned, not merely
given away.
No big whoop. Really.

Neither is paying 35 and 25 years worth of union dues.


I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled tradesman
union than it was to get into the army.

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled tradesman
union than it was to get into the army.



Both are easy to "get in" but that's about where the similarity ends.
It doesn't take much to stay in a union. Just open your wallet, pay your
dues and don't rock the boat.

To remain in the military you have to demonstrate value, competence and
worth. This is particularly true as a commissioned officer, although it
also applies to enlisted personnel. The military does not promote and
retain slackers.

What is wrong with you anyway Harry?

I congratulated you for your union membership achievement and I meant it
because it means something to you. Others have honorable achievements as
well that have just as much meaning (or more) and benefit many more people,
yet you stick your nose up in the air and insult them.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled
tradesman union than it was to get into the army.



Both are easy to "get in" but that's about where the similarity ends.
It doesn't take much to stay in a union. Just open your wallet, pay
your dues and don't rock the boat.


I had to take and pass a multi-day knowledge and practical exam to get
from apprentice to journeyman.




To remain in the military you have to demonstrate value, competence and
worth. This is particularly true as a commissioned officer, although it
also applies to enlisted personnel. The military does not promote and
retain slackers.


Now *that* is funny.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled tradesman
union than it was to get into the army.



Both are easy to "get in" but that's about where the similarity ends.
It doesn't take much to stay in a union. Just open your wallet, pay your
dues and don't rock the boat.


I had to take and pass a multi-day knowledge and practical exam to get
from apprentice to journeyman.

And?

An enlisted person in the military attends 9-10 *weeks* of basic military
indoctrination.
That's before attending the school for his/her particular job code. That
school can last anywhere from 3 months to well over a year. Only *then*
are they considered qualified to begin performing the equivilent of
apprentice level work in their job rating. Advancement in rate is dependent
on completing required courses in both military and specific job code
curriculums, plus sign-off of practical demonstration sof competence by
higher ranking commissioned or non-commissioned officers. Usually takes a
couple of years to accomplish.



To remain in the military you have to demonstrate value, competence and
worth. This is particularly true as a commissioned officer, although it
also applies to enlisted personnel. The military does not promote and
retain slackers.


Now *that* is funny.

Why is that so funny to you? You obviously have no knowledge of or
experience in the subject.
Really Harry, to those of us that know what the military is all about, you
are making a fool of yourself.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled tradesman
union than it was to get into the army.



Both are easy to "get in" but that's about where the similarity ends.
It doesn't take much to stay in a union. Just open your wallet, pay
your dues and don't rock the boat.


I had to take and pass a multi-day knowledge and practical exam to get
from apprentice to journeyman.

And?

An enlisted person in the military attends 9-10 *weeks* of basic military
indoctrination.
That's before attending the school for his/her particular job code. That
school can last anywhere from 3 months to well over a year. Only *then*
are they considered qualified to begin performing the equivilent of
apprentice level work in their job rating. Advancement in rate is
dependent on completing required courses in both military and specific job
code curriculums, plus sign-off of practical demonstration sof competence
by higher ranking commissioned or non-commissioned officers. Usually
takes a couple of years to accomplish.



To remain in the military you have to demonstrate value, competence and
worth. This is particularly true as a commissioned officer, although it
also applies to enlisted personnel. The military does not promote and
retain slackers.


Now *that* is funny.

Why is that so funny to you? You obviously have no knowledge of or
experience in the subject.
Really Harry, to those of us that know what the military is all about, you
are making a fool of yourself.

Eisboch

He seems to make a fool of himself no matter what he's talking about. Trying
to equate the military to a union!!?? Man he's off the deep end.

--Mike

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled tradesman
union than it was to get into the army.



Both are easy to "get in" but that's about where the similarity ends.
It doesn't take much to stay in a union. Just open your wallet, pay your
dues and don't rock the boat.

To remain in the military you have to demonstrate value, competence and
worth. This is particularly true as a commissioned officer, although it
also applies to enlisted personnel. The military does not promote and
retain slackers.

What is wrong with you anyway Harry?

I congratulated you for your union membership achievement and I meant it
because it means something to you. Others have honorable achievements as
well that have just as much meaning (or more) and benefit many more
people, yet you stick your nose up in the air and insult them.

Eisboch


Typical Harry. He responded to everything in your post, except the last
paragraph.... the one that meant the most.

Mike wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
news
"HK" wrote in message
m...

I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled tradesman
union than it was to get into the army.


Both are easy to "get in" but that's about where the similarity ends.
It doesn't take much to stay in a union. Just open your wallet, pay your
dues and don't rock the boat.

To remain in the military you have to demonstrate value, competence and
worth. This is particularly true as a commissioned officer, although it
also applies to enlisted personnel. The military does not promote and
retain slackers.

What is wrong with you anyway Harry?

I congratulated you for your union membership achievement and I meant it
because it means something to you. Others have honorable achievements as
well that have just as much meaning (or more) and benefit many more
people, yet you stick your nose up in the air and insult them.

Eisboch


Typical Harry. He responded to everything in your post, except the last
paragraph.... the one that meant the most.



He's always been very selective in his responses. Those who are "kill
filed" have defeated him more often than he can handle. Don't kid
yourself - he reads every post.

Don't kid yourself - he reads every post.

Of course he does. His alleged kill file is just a convenient way of not
having to respond.

--Mike

"DK" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
news
"HK" wrote in message
m...

I prefaced my remark by saying it had meaning for me and a couple of
others here.

I am sure, though, that it was tougher to get into my skilled tradesman
union than it was to get into the army.


Both are easy to "get in" but that's about where the similarity ends.
It doesn't take much to stay in a union. Just open your wallet, pay
your dues and don't rock the boat.

To remain in the military you have to demonstrate value, competence and
worth. This is particularly true as a commissioned officer, although it
also applies to enlisted personnel. The military does not promote and
retain slackers.

What is wrong with you anyway Harry?

I congratulated you for your union membership achievement and I meant it
because it means something to you. Others have honorable achievements
as well that have just as much meaning (or more) and benefit many more
people, yet you stick your nose up in the air and insult them.

Eisboch


Typical Harry. He responded to everything in your post, except the last
paragraph.... the one that meant the most.

He's always been very selective in his responses. Those who are "kill
filed" have defeated him more often than he can handle. Don't kid
yourself - he reads every post.