"HK" wrote in message
m...


Oh, and when he plays golf, he likes to play on courses paid for and
maintained by the taxpayers.


Blazer wrote:

Wow, you've really got it in for 'Herring'. Are you saying that being a
soldier is a bad thing? And teaching? Do you think it's wrong for someone
to play golf on a public golf
course? I've never heard of a 'free' public golf course, though. Do
they have them where you live?



D'oh.

You aren't a Loogy doppelganger, are you? You come across here just as
stupid as he is. I think you are about ready for the filter dumpster.

No, dummy, I am not claiming being a soldier or a teacher is bad. I have
great respect for teachers.

I have no respect, though, for turds like Herring who spend their entire
life sucking on the taxpayers' teat and then whine about their
misconceptions regarding socialism.

Too subtle for you, right?


Blazer,

You apparently are relatively new here. Allow me to clarify Harry's
statements a bit.

JohnH was drafted into the Army but continued his education leading to a
commission. He served honorably as a career Army officer including at least
one tour (maybe more) in Vietnam.

As you are probably aware the pay scale in the military isn't the highest in
the world. Certainly nowhere near the pay rates for even semi-skilled union
workers in the auto industry. However, JohnH chose to make the military a
career. Someone has to do it.

When you retire from the military after a minimum of 20 years, you receive a
small pension plus certain lifetime benefits for health care and use of
military facilities, including recreational activities such as military
owned golf courses, etc. Not too different from benefits earned by retired
union workers.

However, in Harry's mind people like JohnH who earned these benefits while
earning much less than his civilian counterparts, "spend their entire life
sucking on the taxpayers' teat.

Harry never served in the military.


Hopefully this helps you understand Harry a little more.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


Oh, and when he plays golf, he likes to play on courses paid for and
maintained by the taxpayers.


Blazer wrote:

Wow, you've really got it in for 'Herring'. Are you saying that being
a soldier is a bad thing? And teaching? Do you think it's wrong for
someone to play golf on a public golf
course? I've never heard of a 'free' public golf course, though. Do
they have them where you live?



D'oh.

You aren't a Loogy doppelganger, are you? You come across here just as
stupid as he is. I think you are about ready for the filter dumpster.

No, dummy, I am not claiming being a soldier or a teacher is bad. I
have great respect for teachers.

I have no respect, though, for turds like Herring who spend their
entire life sucking on the taxpayers' teat and then whine about their
misconceptions regarding socialism.

Too subtle for you, right?


Blazer,

You apparently are relatively new here. Allow me to clarify Harry's
statements a bit.

JohnH was drafted into the Army but continued his education leading to a
commission. He served honorably as a career Army officer including at
least one tour (maybe more) in Vietnam.

As you are probably aware the pay scale in the military isn't the
highest in the world. Certainly nowhere near the pay rates for even
semi-skilled union workers in the auto industry. However, JohnH chose
to make the military a career. Someone has to do it.

When you retire from the military after a minimum of 20 years, you
receive a small pension plus certain lifetime benefits for health care
and use of military facilities, including recreational activities such
as military owned golf courses, etc. Not too different from benefits
earned by retired union workers.

However, in Harry's mind people like JohnH who earned these benefits
while earning much less than his civilian counterparts, "spend their
entire life sucking on the taxpayers' teat.

Harry never served in the military.


Hopefully this helps you understand Harry a little more.

Eisboch





A has nothing to do with B or C.

Herring whines about socialism and "freeloaders" sucking on the
taxpayers' teat, and for about his entire working life, he has done the
same. And now that he is retired, he still is sucking on the government
teat.

It's not the government pay or pension Herring got or gets I find
offensive. It's the right-wing hypocrisy.

It's just more right-wingnut hypocrisy.

"HK" wrote in message
m...

A has nothing to do with B or C.

Herring whines about socialism and "freeloaders" sucking on the taxpayers'
teat, and for about his entire working life, he has done the same. And now
that he is retired, he still is sucking on the government teat.

It's not the government pay or pension Herring got or gets I find
offensive. It's the right-wing hypocrisy.

It's just more right-wingnut hypocrisy.


You make no sense. On one hand you say you don't find his government pay or
pension offensive, yet you claim that "for about his entire working life, he
has sucked on the government teat".

He did a job that is authorized and funded by Congress on behalf of the
taxpayer.
So do many other federal employees, military and non-military.

The only people I think JohnH complains about are those who are getting
benefits at taxpayer's expense who are either not legally eligible for them,
haven't earned them or otherwise don't qualify for them.
I agree with him.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...

A has nothing to do with B or C.

Herring whines about socialism and "freeloaders" sucking on the
taxpayers' teat, and for about his entire working life, he has done
the same. And now that he is retired, he still is sucking on the
government teat.

It's not the government pay or pension Herring got or gets I find
offensive. It's the right-wing hypocrisy.

It's just more right-wingnut hypocrisy.


You make no sense. On one hand you say you don't find his government
pay or pension offensive, yet you claim that "for about his entire
working life, he has sucked on the government teat".

He did a job that is authorized and funded by Congress on behalf of the
taxpayer.
So do many other federal employees, military and non-military.

The only people I think JohnH complains about are those who are getting
benefits at taxpayer's expense who are either not legally eligible for
them, haven't earned them or otherwise don't qualify for them.
I agree with him.

Eisboch


That's right. I have no objection to government employees, be they
civilian or military. Nor do I object to their benefits or pensions. I
think every working American should be entitled to a defined benefit
pension and everyone here should have access to good health care.

My problem with Herring is his hypocrisy and his racism. Perhaps you
don't remember the insults he threw at his students at a predominately
black school, or the insult he threw at his Latino neighbors. I do.

He's a turd.

"HK" wrote in message
m...


That's right. I have no objection to government employees, be they
civilian or military. Nor do I object to their benefits or pensions. I
think every working American should be entitled to a defined benefit
pension and everyone here should have access to good health care.


Then why do you continue to claim he "lived off the government teat all his
working career?"



My problem with Herring is his hypocrisy and his racism. Perhaps you don't
remember the insults he threw at his students at a predominately black
school, or the insult he threw at his Latino neighbors. I do.


I don't recall him saying anything I would consider racist. The problem
today is that many on the left consider any negative comment made about an
action or an issue involving a minority as racism. It's the "politically
correct", elitist thing to think, you know.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


That's right. I have no objection to government employees, be they
civilian or military. Nor do I object to their benefits or pensions. I
think every working American should be entitled to a defined benefit
pension and everyone here should have access to good health care.


Then why do you continue to claim he "lived off the government teat all
his working career?"



Because of his drooling about socialism, which he does not understand,
and his racist ravings.





My problem with Herring is his hypocrisy and his racism. Perhaps you
don't remember the insults he threw at his students at a predominately
black school, or the insult he threw at his Latino neighbors. I do.


I don't recall him saying anything I would consider racist. The problem
today is that many on the left consider any negative comment made about
an action or an issue involving a minority as racism. It's the
"politically correct", elitist thing to think, you know.

Eisboch


I recall them well, and so do others.

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:22:25 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


That's right. I have no objection to government employees, be they
civilian or military. Nor do I object to their benefits or pensions. I
think every working American should be entitled to a defined benefit
pension and everyone here should have access to good health care.


Then why do you continue to claim he "lived off the government teat all
his working career?"



Because of his drooling about socialism, which he does not understand,
and his racist ravings.





My problem with Herring is his hypocrisy and his racism. Perhaps you
don't remember the insults he threw at his students at a predominately
black school, or the insult he threw at his Latino neighbors. I do.


I don't recall him saying anything I would consider racist. The problem
today is that many on the left consider any negative comment made about
an action or an issue involving a minority as racism. It's the
"politically correct", elitist thing to think, you know.

Eisboch


I recall them well, and so do others.

I guess I opened a real can of worms when I asked you a couple
questions. I am surprised that you consider getting a union card and
spending a lot of time paying union dues the equivalent of being in
the military. I also spent some time in the military, and I had to
take a test before I was trained in my specialty. In fact, we took a
whole battery of tests, for an entire day. Then I was told I would be
an Artillery Fire Direction Control specialist. Lots of math, slide
rules, and noise. It took 8 weeks to complete basic training, learning
to march, shoot, crawl, repair wounds, live through a gas attack, and
so on. Then there was another 8 weeks of training in Artillery Fire
Direction Control. After that was another 8-10 weeks of Basic Unit
Training followed by another 8 weeks of Advanced Unit Training. Of
course, testing was done at the end of each phase of training. Once
finished, the unit was put on a ship in Boston Harbor, and it sailed
to Vietnam.

When you say, "I recall them well, and so do others," to what others
are you referring? Do you mean Don White, salty, and slammer? It seems
like those guys are the only ones who believe much of anything you
say. You seem to have earned a bunch of animosity here, and I guess I
can understand that.

I guess the old saying, "You get what you pay for," applies to
animosity also, huh?

Well, you have a good day.

BTW, why do several people use the term 'WAFA' regarding you, and what
does it mean?

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...

A has nothing to do with B or C.

Herring whines about socialism and "freeloaders" sucking on the
taxpayers' teat, and for about his entire working life, he has done
the same. And now that he is retired, he still is sucking on the
government teat.

It's not the government pay or pension Herring got or gets I find
offensive. It's the right-wing hypocrisy.

It's just more right-wingnut hypocrisy.


You make no sense. On one hand you say you don't find his government
pay or pension offensive, yet you claim that "for about his entire
working life, he has sucked on the government teat".

He did a job that is authorized and funded by Congress on behalf of the
taxpayer.
So do many other federal employees, military and non-military.

The only people I think JohnH complains about are those who are getting
benefits at taxpayer's expense who are either not legally eligible for
them, haven't earned them or otherwise don't qualify for them.
I agree with him.

Eisboch

Harry attended a nearly all black high school in New Haven and I suspect
that left him emotionally scarred. He has called nearly everyone in
rec.boats a racist at one time or another.
He wasn't man enough to be in the military therefore the military sucks
in his mind.
Herring's a bum because he wouldn't go out on Harry's boat.
He's been programmed to think he needs the protection of the union and
the socialist Democrats so all republicans suck.
Big business sucks because he couldn't run any business, even the one
his father built up and hoped to pass on to his son.
It's not hard to see why Harry is so hateful.

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...

A has nothing to do with B or C.

Herring whines about socialism and "freeloaders" sucking on the
taxpayers' teat, and for about his entire working life, he has done
the same. And now that he is retired, he still is sucking on the
government teat.

It's not the government pay or pension Herring got or gets I find
offensive. It's the right-wing hypocrisy.

It's just more right-wingnut hypocrisy.


You make no sense. On one hand you say you don't find his government
pay or pension offensive, yet you claim that "for about his entire
working life, he has sucked on the government teat".

He did a job that is authorized and funded by Congress on behalf of the
taxpayer.
So do many other federal employees, military and non-military.

The only people I think JohnH complains about are those who are getting
benefits at taxpayer's expense who are either not legally eligible for
them, haven't earned them or otherwise don't qualify for them.
I agree with him.

Eisboch

I agree with this post. Democrats paying illegals and losers is a far
cry from paying those who have served our country admirably. WAFA will
draw from his union pension. That money is funded by working Americans.
John's pension is also funded by working Americans - WAFA chooses the
word "government" but it's...money from working Americans.

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:33:28 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...


Oh, and when he plays golf, he likes to play on courses paid for and
maintained by the taxpayers.


Blazer wrote:

Wow, you've really got it in for 'Herring'. Are you saying that being a
soldier is a bad thing? And teaching? Do you think it's wrong for someone
to play golf on a public golf
course? I've never heard of a 'free' public golf course, though. Do
they have them where you live?



D'oh.

You aren't a Loogy doppelganger, are you? You come across here just as
stupid as he is. I think you are about ready for the filter dumpster.

No, dummy, I am not claiming being a soldier or a teacher is bad. I have
great respect for teachers.

I have no respect, though, for turds like Herring who spend their entire
life sucking on the taxpayers' teat and then whine about their
misconceptions regarding socialism.

Too subtle for you, right?


Blazer,

You apparently are relatively new here. Allow me to clarify Harry's
statements a bit.

JohnH was drafted into the Army but continued his education leading to a
commission. He served honorably as a career Army officer including at least
one tour (maybe more) in Vietnam.

As you are probably aware the pay scale in the military isn't the highest in
the world. Certainly nowhere near the pay rates for even semi-skilled union
workers in the auto industry. However, JohnH chose to make the military a
career. Someone has to do it.

When you retire from the military after a minimum of 20 years, you receive a
small pension plus certain lifetime benefits for health care and use of
military facilities, including recreational activities such as military
owned golf courses, etc. Not too different from benefits earned by retired
union workers.

However, in Harry's mind people like JohnH who earned these benefits while
earning much less than his civilian counterparts, "spend their entire life
sucking on the taxpayers' teat.

Harry never served in the military.


Hopefully this helps you understand Harry a little more.

Eisboch



Small correction there. It costs me $27 a round to *walk* the 18 holes
at the Marine Base Quantico. We don't get free golf.

But, I'm in no way bothered by Harry's comments. Blazer appears to
have him scoped already.

Besides, look who's making the comments!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson