Eisboch wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future
costs are his baby.
--


You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar
cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so
suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not
that that's exactly chump change).

The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in
combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected.

If Obama exits Iraq in accordance with his new time table, it will be
generally in agreement with the timetable that Bush established during
the last four months of his administration.

Some things don't change.

Eisboch


It's actually higher than $2 trillion when you factor in such things as
service-related injuries and illnesses resulting from Bush's Folly.

On Mar 7, 1:52*pm, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
news:E6mdnR9XZt0CJS_UnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@earthlink. com...
John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *Thomas
Jefferson

Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of
money with no accountability.

Which is probably worse than socialism. *Or maybe is what socialism
actually is.

I call it corrupt-socialism. *The rouse is socialism to make it look
like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate
welfare greed lines. *Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the
masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy.

But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. *You have
to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean.

Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!"

Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is.

What's the survey on lefties say, Harry?

On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:50:41 -0500, Jim wrote:

John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

Do you see Venezuela as a model for our new "democracy Obama style"?

Amen
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:10:58 -0800, Jim wrote:

John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson


Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of
money with no accountability.

Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism
actually is.

Bush let himself get railroaded by Congress. Stupid move. That doesn't
make Obama bright.

Stupid on stupid is more stupid. Just ask Harry.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:16:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas
Jefferson


Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of
money with no accountability.

Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism
actually is.


Herring also did not complain when the incompetent Bush racked up $2
trillion+ in current and future costs of the idiotic war against Iraq.

Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future
costs are his baby.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:10:38 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 7, 1:52*pm, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
news:E6mdnR9XZt0CJS_UnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@earthlink. com...
John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *Thomas
Jefferson

Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of
money with no accountability.

Which is probably worse than socialism. *Or maybe is what socialism
actually is.

I call it corrupt-socialism. *The rouse is socialism to make it look
like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate
welfare greed lines. *Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the
masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy.

But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. *You have
to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean.

Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!"

Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is.

What's the survey on lefties say, Harry?

LOL!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

"John H" wrote in message
...

Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future
costs are his baby.
--


You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost
for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their
agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's
exactly chump change).

The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat
operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected.

If Obama exits Iraq in accordance with his new time table, it will be
generally in agreement with the timetable that Bush established during the
last four months of his administration.

Some things don't change.

Eisboch

John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

Nice post, John!

On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .

Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future
costs are his baby.
--


You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost
for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their
agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's
exactly chump change).

The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat
operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected.


What happens when you factor in the costs of medical care for
returning vets, and keeping their families afloat? Tack on another
Trillion, easily - not to mention the loss of a lot of thousands of
productive lives, who will now be using resources rather than creating
them. Maybe tack on 2 trillion.

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..

Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future
costs are his baby.
--


You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost
for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their
agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's
exactly chump change).

The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat
operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected.


What happens when you factor in the costs of medical care for
returning vets, and keeping their families afloat? Tack on another
Trillion, easily - not to mention the loss of a lot of thousands of
productive lives, who will now be using resources rather than creating
them. Maybe tack on 2 trillion.


A large part of the ending of FDR's depression was the millions of men
taken out of the 24% unemployment workforce and sent overseas to fight, At
about $60 a month.