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Richard Casady March 4th 09 04:08 PM

Analyze the accident
 
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:37:16 -0800, "Mike" wrote:


"GC Boater" wrote in message
...
On Mar 3, 12:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:20:32 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Mar 3, 1:10 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


Friends Boston Whaler 13' after it flipped and was abandoned during
the
rescue was found about 10 miles down current. Even with a big boat,
they
could not right the boat and towed it back slowly with it upside
down.- Hide quoted text -


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If you only went out when conditions were perfectly safe, you'd never
go out. Harry thinks that if anyone ever gets in any situation ever,
it's instantly stupidity that got them there. Maybe that's why he puts
so few hours on his boat. He's got no sense of adventure, and when
anyone does anything fun with their children instead of keeping them
locked in a hermetically sealed room, he deems them wreckless and
irresponsible. WAFA, in short.


Loogy is afraid to go to the airport when Harrry is there. SCARY!!!


What's funny is that Loogy already has convinced anyone who matters that
he is an idiot, and he's so stupid he thinks he has to keep "reselling"
his stupidity to us.

No, I would not go out in the ocean in really bad weather, or if a
weather report indicated a heavy wind or some other sort of really bad
weather was going to be coming through while I planned to be out. But,
then, I'm not an idiot.

Oh...Loogy boats on a little inland lake. Unlikely there are many
boating days with 14-16' waves there.- Hide quoted text -

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What was the weather like when you rounded the horn ... twice?


Lots claim to have rounded Cape Horn, when in fact they took the more
sheltered shortcut through the Magellan Strait. Cruise ships go there.
My parents were on a ship that went there and the Falklands. Later
they passed by wreck of the Graf Spee.

Casady

Frogwatch[_2_] March 4th 09 05:00 PM

Analyze the accident
 
On Mar 4, 11:08 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:37:16 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

"GC Boater" wrote in message
...
On Mar 3, 12:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:20:32 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Mar 3, 1:10 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


Friends Boston Whaler 13' after it flipped and was abandoned during
the
rescue was found about 10 miles down current. Even with a big boat,
they
could not right the boat and towed it back slowly with it upside
down.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -
If you only went out when conditions were perfectly safe, you'd never
go out. Harry thinks that if anyone ever gets in any situation ever,
it's instantly stupidity that got them there. Maybe that's why he puts
so few hours on his boat. He's got no sense of adventure, and when
anyone does anything fun with their children instead of keeping them
locked in a hermetically sealed room, he deems them wreckless and
irresponsible. WAFA, in short.


Loogy is afraid to go to the airport when Harrry is there. SCARY!!!


What's funny is that Loogy already has convinced anyone who matters that
he is an idiot, and he's so stupid he thinks he has to keep "reselling"
his stupidity to us.


No, I would not go out in the ocean in really bad weather, or if a
weather report indicated a heavy wind or some other sort of really bad
weather was going to be coming through while I planned to be out. But,
then, I'm not an idiot.


Oh...Loogy boats on a little inland lake. Unlikely there are many
boating days with 14-16' waves there.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What was the weather like when you rounded the horn ... twice?


Lots claim to have rounded Cape Horn, when in fact they took the more
sheltered shortcut through the Magellan Strait. Cruise ships go there.
My parents were on a ship that went there and the Falklands. Later
they passed by wreck of the Graf Spee.

Casady


I retract my comments about the Darwin award because everybody should
be allowed to screw up every now and then without fatality.
Unfortunately, nature caught up with them. I s'pose the best thing is
for the rest of us to think long and hard about this and prepare for
it to happen to us.

MMC March 7th 09 05:16 PM

Analyze the accident
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Mar 4, 11:08 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:37:16 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

"GC Boater" wrote in message
...
On Mar 3, 12:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:20:32 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


On Mar 3, 1:10 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


Friends Boston Whaler 13' after it flipped and was abandoned
during
the
rescue was found about 10 miles down current. Even with a big
boat,
they
could not right the boat and towed it back slowly with it upside
down.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -
If you only went out when conditions were perfectly safe, you'd
never
go out. Harry thinks that if anyone ever gets in any situation
ever,
it's instantly stupidity that got them there. Maybe that's why he
puts
so few hours on his boat. He's got no sense of adventure, and when
anyone does anything fun with their children instead of keeping
them
locked in a hermetically sealed room, he deems them wreckless and
irresponsible. WAFA, in short.


Loogy is afraid to go to the airport when Harrry is there. SCARY!!!


What's funny is that Loogy already has convinced anyone who matters
that
he is an idiot, and he's so stupid he thinks he has to keep
"reselling"
his stupidity to us.


No, I would not go out in the ocean in really bad weather, or if a
weather report indicated a heavy wind or some other sort of really bad
weather was going to be coming through while I planned to be out. But,
then, I'm not an idiot.


Oh...Loogy boats on a little inland lake. Unlikely there are many
boating days with 14-16' waves there.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What was the weather like when you rounded the horn ... twice?


Lots claim to have rounded Cape Horn, when in fact they took the more
sheltered shortcut through the Magellan Strait. Cruise ships go there.
My parents were on a ship that went there and the Falklands. Later
they passed by wreck of the Graf Spee.

Casady


I retract my comments about the Darwin award because everybody should
be allowed to screw up every now and then without fatality.
Unfortunately, nature caught up with them. I s'pose the best thing is
for the rest of us to think long and hard about this and prepare for
it to happen to us.


Well, I don't profess to be a master mariner or a genius but I do check the
weather forecast before even taking a boat out even in sheltered
water........
No amount of whizbang gear can offset a lack of common sense.
I was talking to a couple coworkers in DC about this earlier this week and I
laid out the scenario:
1. plan on fishing.
2. go fishing no matter what the weather because DAMMIT WE CAME TO FISH!.
3. Coast Guard finds overturned boat that shouldn't have been out there in
that weather with no people.
4. Find a couple bodies.
5. Someone catches a big-ass Tiger shark and when gutted, a body part or 3.
So far, I was wrong on #3 and waiting on 4&5.
This happens all the friggin time and the only reason it's gotten the
attention it has is because of the missing entertainers (NFL). If this had
been a bunch of teachers, cops, or other actual contributing members of
society there might have been a very short blip on the national media
machine but only if something important didn't come up like another
celebrity doing something stupid or wearing the wrong outfit to
receive/give/attend the endless awards they give each other.




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