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Vic Smith March 1st 09 05:47 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:25:07 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:28:47 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

3. Make sure the drain plug is in, a *very* common mistake.


What reason is there for a drain plug to be larger than 1/4 inch?
It only has to drain 40 inches a year.


Most people don't figure drainage by yearly rainfall.

--Vic


HK March 1st 09 06:35 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:55:20 -0800, "Mike" wrote:


Leave the boat in forward, connect the winch strap, and winch her the rest
of the way up.
Keeping the boat in forward, even at idle, will help immensely. Jump back to
the helm,
put her in neutral, and cut the engine(s).

I hope this helps.

Everything helps!
I note some discussion about methods.
Have to figure that out myself.
I'm never shy about getting educated, so I expect to spend some time
watching others and practicing before I get my feet wet.
Luckily, I'm pretty good at backing trailers.

--Vic


Leaving the boat engine running in forward while you hop out to attach
the winch strap and winch the boat onto the trailer sounds like a
serious accident waiting to happen. And if one happened, you'd be cited
for negligence at the minimum.

Richard Casady March 1st 09 06:47 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:47:36 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:25:07 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:28:47 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

3. Make sure the drain plug is in, a *very* common mistake.


What reason is there for a drain plug to be larger than 1/4 inch?
It only has to drain 40 inches a year.


Most people don't figure drainage by yearly rainfall.


Why not, if that is the only way water gets into the boat. You don't
exactly harpoon three foot waves. You pound them hard with a flat
bottom jet boat hull.

Your mileage may vary. For the last fifty years our runabout has
collected the rain three months a year. We run the bilge pump after
rains. Make that more like a foot a year. Rain doesn't count when the
boat is in the shed.

Casady

Vic Smith March 1st 09 06:55 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:47:02 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:47:36 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:25:07 GMT,
(Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:28:47 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

3. Make sure the drain plug is in, a *very* common mistake.

What reason is there for a drain plug to be larger than 1/4 inch?
It only has to drain 40 inches a year.


Most people don't figure drainage by yearly rainfall.


Why not, if that is the only way water gets into the boat. You don't
exactly harpoon three foot waves. You pound them hard with a flat
bottom jet boat hull.

Your mileage may vary. For the last fifty years our runabout has
collected the rain three months a year. We run the bilge pump after
rains. Make that more like a foot a year. Rain doesn't count when the
boat is in the shed.

I don't like getting the inside of the boat soaked wet either, but I
haven't boated in the ocean.
I recall only a couple times draining a boat at speed.
A quarter inch just wouldn't do.
But most the time a bailing can and a sponge is all I needed.
A good sponge is a critical piece of equipment to me.

--Vic




Vic Smith March 1st 09 06:58 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:35:48 -0500, HK wrote:

Leaving the boat engine running in forward while you hop out to attach
the winch strap and winch the boat onto the trailer sounds like a
serious accident waiting to happen. And if one happened, you'd be cited
for negligence at the minimum.


I agree with that, and it set my off "danger" alarm.
But I think Mike has a jet boat, so maybe it works differently with
them.
Still, under power with nobody at the helm just sounds dicey.

--Vic

Don White March 1st 09 07:26 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

wrote in message
...

Holy cow! The first time I check here and I see this. It must be the
dumbest post I've ever seen. Absolute stupidity.
glyci

************************************************** ***

Ah.. you've come slinking out of your hole.
We wondered where you were last week when Harry passed through the Atlanta
airport.
You can change your shorts now and get back to normal.



HK March 1st 09 07:32 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Holy cow! The first time I check here and I see this. It must be the
dumbest post I've ever seen. Absolute stupidity.
glyci

************************************************** ***

Ah.. you've come slinking out of your hole.
We wondered where you were last week when Harry passed through the Atlanta
airport.
You can change your shorts now and get back to normal.





Yeah, I looked for the idiot known as Loogy while I was at the Atlanta
airport, but everyone I saw looked and acted fairly normal, so I suppose
he chickened out.

I insisted the next meeting *not* be held in Atlanta, so if the idiot
known as Loogy wants to try to assault me, he'll have to do it up here.



Blazer[_2_] March 1st 09 07:34 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:26:07 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...

Holy cow! The first time I check here and I see this. It must be the
dumbest post I've ever seen. Absolute stupidity.
glyci

************************************************* ****

Ah.. you've come slinking out of your hole.
We wondered where you were last week when Harry passed through the Atlanta
airport.
You can change your shorts now and get back to normal.


I don't want to offend, but is there something 'special' between you
and the 'HK' guy?

Mike[_10_] March 1st 09 07:37 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:35:48 -0500, HK wrote:

Leaving the boat engine running in forward while you hop out to attach
the winch strap and winch the boat onto the trailer sounds like a
serious accident waiting to happen. And if one happened, you'd be cited
for negligence at the minimum.


I agree with that, and it set my off "danger" alarm.
But I think Mike has a jet boat, so maybe it works differently with
them.
Still, under power with nobody at the helm just sounds dicey.

--Vic


Actually, I should clarify. I never actually get out of the boat. I lean
over the bow, to connect the strap and use the winch. Rarely do I need to
winch up at all though. Additionally, the boat is firmly on the trailer at
that point. The most forward bunks are about 18" out of the water. She aint
going anywhere but up.

I would never recommend doing that while the stern is still floating free.
Leaving it in forward simply assists in winching if it didn't ride up to the
stop. You need to learn what you can and cannot do with your particular
boat. Watch guys single had their boats, and you'll see that this method is
not as uncommon as some might think.

--Mike



HK March 1st 09 07:38 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Blazer wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:26:07 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
...

Holy cow! The first time I check here and I see this. It must be the
dumbest post I've ever seen. Absolute stupidity.
glyci

************************************************** ***

Ah.. you've come slinking out of your hole.
We wondered where you were last week when Harry passed through the Atlanta
airport.
You can change your shorts now and get back to normal.


I don't want to offend, but is there something 'special' between you
and the 'HK' guy?



Nothing other than the fact that neither of us are right-wing retardos,
like many posters here. You know, like...you.

Don White March 1st 09 08:21 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"Blazer" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:26:07 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...

Holy cow! The first time I check here and I see this. It must be the
dumbest post I've ever seen. Absolute stupidity.
glyci

************************************************ *****

Ah.. you've come slinking out of your hole.
We wondered where you were last week when Harry passed through the Atlanta
airport.
You can change your shorts now and get back to normal.


I don't want to offend, but is there something 'special' between you
and the 'HK' guy?



If you're looking for "special", look no further than the Drone Army..and
its irregular compliment of agitators, instigators and facilitators.



Don White March 1st 09 08:23 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
snip..
Leave the boat in forward, connect the winch strap, and winch her the rest
of the way up.
Keeping the boat in forward, even at idle, will help immensely. Jump back
to the helm,
put her in neutral, and cut the engine(s).

I hope this helps.

--Mike


What the hell... is this 'Idiot Hour'?
No wonder there are so many screwups at launch ramps.



Wayne.B March 1st 09 10:58 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap


Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !


Wayne.B March 1st 09 11:06 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:37:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Good list.
I'll probably renumber things a bit, the big changes being
1. Make sure the drain plug is in, a *very* common mistake.
2. Make sure the drain plug is in, a *very* common mistake.
3. Make sure the drain plug is in, a *very* common mistake.
12. Remember tips 1,2,3.


===========================

Don't forget tip # 12 :-)


Wayne.B March 1st 09 11:14 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:25:07 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

What reason is there for a drain plug to be larger than 1/4 inch?
It only has to drain 40 inches a year.


There are times here in FL where we get 3 inches in an hour, no joke,
you can actually see the pool level rise that much. Most small
block I/Os will ruin the starter motor if you get more than 6 inches
or so in the boat, not to mention the potential damage from the
(considerable) extra weight.


Vic Smith March 1st 09 11:22 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap


Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !


They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic

Wayne.B March 1st 09 11:31 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:22:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.


....and beer.


Don White March 1st 09 11:33 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap


Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !


They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic


Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also very
interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.



Vic Smith March 1st 09 11:40 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:31:53 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:22:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.


...and beer.


That's just redundant!


Vic Smith March 1st 09 11:48 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap

Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !


They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic


Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also very
interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.

Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground.

--Vic

HK March 2nd 09 12:24 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic

Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also very
interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.

Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground.

--Vic



We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I
believe the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11
plus change a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the
wellhead. That includes the pump at the bottom of the well.

D K[_8_] March 2nd 09 01:01 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:29:33 -0500, D K
wrote:

John H wrote:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art....html?cat= 11
Again, the purpose of the drive on trailer, according to your cite, is
to save on winching.

If your ramps are not scoured or otherwised damaged by the flow of the
water, then by all means drive on. However, this is not the case for
most concrete ramps.
--
John H


They guy that wrote this article is no expert at boating, or writing.
It is basic information any one of us could write with some bad info
included.

What's up with this?

"A cheap boat trailer more often than not, won't hold up."

Cheap or undersized? What does "won't hold up." mean?

"There won't be as much heat or tread wear on the tires if they rotate
more times per mile."

Really?

"It's fairly safe to say that most boat trailers are weatherized and
protected from rust. If you are in doubt, it would never hurt to have it
rust coated."

Rust coated?

OK, he's an idiot.


Actually, he might have it just right! Park that cheap, undersized,
rust coated, trailer loaded with your non-existent boat at your lot
and it is liable to last a very, very, long time!


Which boat, Gene? Why did you choose to be an asshole?

Eisboch[_4_] March 2nd 09 01:12 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:31:53 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:22:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.


...and beer.


That's just redundant!



Speaking of beer,

We opened the bottle of Samuel Adams Utopias Friday night. Unusual to say
the least, but very, very good.
Hard to describe it. It has a very faint taste of beer, but it's probably
only because of the hops.
It's almost as good to just to hold the glass under your nose and sniff it
as it is to drink it. The aroma is fantastic. Only had about an oz. or
so, but that was all you needed to enjoy it. Not sweet, not bitter and
smooth as silk. I've had some good brandy and cognac in the past, but this
was different.

Looking forward to the next time.

Eisboch


Don White March 2nd 09 01:28 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also
very interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.

Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground. --Vic



We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I believe
the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11 plus change
a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the wellhead. That
includes the pump at the bottom of the well.


I paid $10. per foot way back in 1976 for a drilled 165 foot deep well with
casing from the top to the bedrock (about 25 feet)
I thought it was darn expensive then.



Vic Smith March 2nd 09 01:29 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:12:49 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of beer,

We opened the bottle of Samuel Adams Utopias Friday night. Unusual to say
the least, but very, very good.
Hard to describe it. It has a very faint taste of beer, but it's probably
only because of the hops.
It's almost as good to just to hold the glass under your nose and sniff it
as it is to drink it. The aroma is fantastic. Only had about an oz. or
so, but that was all you needed to enjoy it. Not sweet, not bitter and
smooth as silk. I've had some good brandy and cognac in the past, but this
was different.

Looking forward to the next time.

As you should. I'm trying to figure it out.
How long does it last after being opened?
Does it make a head?
Where can I get some?
A case!

--Vic


Eisboch[_4_] March 2nd 09 01:40 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:12:49 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of beer,

We opened the bottle of Samuel Adams Utopias Friday night. Unusual to say
the least, but very, very good.
Hard to describe it. It has a very faint taste of beer, but it's
probably
only because of the hops.
It's almost as good to just to hold the glass under your nose and sniff it
as it is to drink it. The aroma is fantastic. Only had about an oz. or
so, but that was all you needed to enjoy it. Not sweet, not bitter and
smooth as silk. I've had some good brandy and cognac in the past, but
this
was different.

Looking forward to the next time.

As you should. I'm trying to figure it out.
How long does it last after being opened?
Does it make a head?
Where can I get some?
A case!

--Vic


No head. Not carbonated. Lasts for at least 10 years according to Samuel
Adams. (They recommend keeping it refrigerated after opening, but serve it
at room temp.)

A case of 24 will run you $3,600. (currently $150 per bottle) But the good
news is that the bottle is 24 oz.

Eisboch



HK March 2nd 09 01:43 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also
very interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.
Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground. --Vic


We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I believe
the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11 plus change
a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the wellhead. That
includes the pump at the bottom of the well.


I paid $10. per foot way back in 1976 for a drilled 165 foot deep well with
casing from the top to the bedrock (about 25 feet)
I thought it was darn expensive then.




Hey! Send me 10 "loonies" and I'll send you whatever the exchange rate
is in U.S. dollars! What is the exchange rate these days?

Don White March 2nd 09 01:49 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also
very interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.
Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground. --Vic

We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I
believe the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11
plus change a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the
wellhead. That includes the pump at the bottom of the well.


I paid $10. per foot way back in 1976 for a drilled 165 foot deep well
with casing from the top to the bedrock (about 25 feet)
I thought it was darn expensive then.



Hey! Send me 10 "loonies" and I'll send you whatever the exchange rate is
in U.S. dollars! What is the exchange rate these days?


Not near what it was a year ago.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/cgi-bin/famecgi_fdps



Don White March 2nd 09 01:52 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also
very interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.
Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground. --Vic

We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I
believe the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11
plus change a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the
wellhead. That includes the pump at the bottom of the well.

I paid $10. per foot way back in 1976 for a drilled 165 foot deep well
with casing from the top to the bedrock (about 25 feet)
I thought it was darn expensive then.



Hey! Send me 10 "loonies" and I'll send you whatever the exchange rate is
in U.S. dollars! What is the exchange rate these days?


Not near what it was a year ago.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/cgi-bin/famecgi_fdps


maybe try ... http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html
Looks like 10 loonies will only buy $7.87 yankee dollahs.



HK March 2nd 09 01:57 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also
very interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.
Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground. --Vic
We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I
believe the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11
plus change a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the
wellhead. That includes the pump at the bottom of the well.
I paid $10. per foot way back in 1976 for a drilled 165 foot deep well
with casing from the top to the bedrock (about 25 feet)
I thought it was darn expensive then.

Hey! Send me 10 "loonies" and I'll send you whatever the exchange rate is
in U.S. dollars! What is the exchange rate these days?

Not near what it was a year ago.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/cgi-bin/famecgi_fdps


maybe try ... http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html
Looks like 10 loonies will only buy $7.87 yankee dollahs.




:) I'll send you 10 worthless American dollars for 10 "new" loonie
coins...


Wayne.B March 2nd 09 03:11 AM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:48:26 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.


Probably won't happen since 1 gallon of diesel fuel produces enough
power to desalinate about 80 gallons of water.




thunder March 2nd 09 12:07 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:11:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:48:26 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.


Probably won't happen since 1 gallon of diesel fuel produces enough
power to desalinate about 80 gallons of water.


Still, that's expensive water when considering how much we use. I
recently heard a guy from Levi's state that one pair of 501s uses 975
gallons of water over it's life cycle. Of course, that means growing the
cotton to washing the jeans. Still, that's a hell of a lot of water.

HK March 2nd 09 12:20 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:11:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:48:26 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.

Probably won't happen since 1 gallon of diesel fuel produces enough
power to desalinate about 80 gallons of water.


Still, that's expensive water when considering how much we use. I
recently heard a guy from Levi's state that one pair of 501s uses 975
gallons of water over it's life cycle. Of course, that means growing the
cotton to washing the jeans. Still, that's a hell of a lot of water.



You *wash* your jeans? Heresy! Heretic!

Don White March 2nd 09 01:11 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are
also very interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US
west.
Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground. --Vic
We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I
believe the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11
plus change a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the
wellhead. That includes the pump at the bottom of the well.
I paid $10. per foot way back in 1976 for a drilled 165 foot deep well
with casing from the top to the bedrock (about 25 feet)
I thought it was darn expensive then.

Hey! Send me 10 "loonies" and I'll send you whatever the exchange rate
is in U.S. dollars! What is the exchange rate these days?
Not near what it was a year ago.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/cgi-bin/famecgi_fdps


maybe try ... http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html
Looks like 10 loonies will only buy $7.87 yankee dollahs.



:) I'll send you 10 worthless American dollars for 10 "new" loonie
coins...


Our postage rates up here might equal the value of the coins ;-)
If you're serious, I'll go to the bank and see if they have any uncirculated
2008 coins. I doubt the 2009 are out yet.
The loonies and toonies are great for the card playing set.



HK March 2nd 09 01:17 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are
also very interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US
west.
Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground. --Vic
We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I
believe the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11
plus change a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the
wellhead. That includes the pump at the bottom of the well.
I paid $10. per foot way back in 1976 for a drilled 165 foot deep well
with casing from the top to the bedrock (about 25 feet)
I thought it was darn expensive then.
Hey! Send me 10 "loonies" and I'll send you whatever the exchange rate
is in U.S. dollars! What is the exchange rate these days?
Not near what it was a year ago.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/cgi-bin/famecgi_fdps
maybe try ... http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html
Looks like 10 loonies will only buy $7.87 yankee dollahs.


:) I'll send you 10 worthless American dollars for 10 "new" loonie
coins...


Our postage rates up here might equal the value of the coins ;-)
If you're serious, I'll go to the bank and see if they have any uncirculated
2008 coins. I doubt the 2009 are out yet.
The loonies and toonies are great for the card playing set.



Sure, I'm serious! The difference in value between our dollars should
cover the postage. I'll tuck in something interesting, too. What, I
don't know...maybe a can of Herring.


Wayne.B March 2nd 09 01:34 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:07:22 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:11:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:48:26 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.


Probably won't happen since 1 gallon of diesel fuel produces enough
power to desalinate about 80 gallons of water.


Still, that's expensive water when considering how much we use.


Most of the small islands in the Bahamas desalinate water with diesel
powered generators. The going rate for water at the marinas is 25 to
50 cents per gallon which is cheaper than making it yourself when you
factor in the cost of equipment plus maintenance. On the boat we get
by with about 15 gallons a day for the two of us.

Don White March 2nd 09 02:29 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...

snip:
I'll tuck in something interesting, too. What, I don't know...maybe a can
of Herring.


There's probably a law against that... something about cross border
pollution.........



HK March 2nd 09 02:34 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...

snip:
I'll tuck in something interesting, too. What, I don't know...maybe a can
of Herring.


There's probably a law against that... something about cross border
pollution.........




Not to worry...it comes prepackaged as rotten.

Don White March 2nd 09 03:00 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...

snip:
I'll tuck in something interesting, too. What, I don't know...maybe a
can of Herring.


There's probably a law against that... something about cross border
pollution.........



Not to worry...it comes prepackaged as rotten.



mmmmmmmmmm Johnny Rotten.. didn't he play for one of those 'punk
groups..'Sex Pistols'?



Blazer[_2_] March 2nd 09 03:06 PM

Boat Ramp Etiquette
 
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:00:19 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...

snip:
I'll tuck in something interesting, too. What, I don't know...maybe a
can of Herring.


There's probably a law against that... something about cross border
pollution.........



Not to worry...it comes prepackaged as rotten.



mmmmmmmmmm Johnny Rotten.. didn't he play for one of those 'punk
groups..'Sex Pistols'?


Are you sure you two don't have something 'special' going on?


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