http://xkcd.com/528/

"nameless" wrote in message
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http://xkcd.com/528/

It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:45:26 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


"nameless" wrote in message
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http://xkcd.com/528/

It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.

Red Hat Linux is going to show MS how.
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem...21700735NWMSRH

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RLM wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:45:26 -0500, D.Duck wrote:

"nameless" wrote in message
...
http://xkcd.com/528/
It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.

Red Hat Linux is going to show MS how.
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem...21700735NWMSRH



Is this the year linux overtakes MS and Apple on the desktop? :)

On Feb 18, 8:49*am, HK wrote:
RLM wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:45:26 -0500, D.Duck wrote:

"nameless" wrote in message
om...
http://xkcd.com/528/
It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.

Red Hat Linux is going to show MS how.
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem...21700735NWMSRH

Is this the year linux overtakes MS and Apple on the desktop? * *:)

I presume that was sarcastic :-) They've only been at it forever and
have less than 1% to show for it. I loaded one of the linux's on an
old pc. It works ok. And the open word/spreadsheet is not bad
either. But as long as windows keeps shipping on new pc's that what
people are going to use.

wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:49 am, HK wrote:
RLM wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:45:26 -0500, D.Duck wrote:
"nameless" wrote in message
...
http://xkcd.com/528/
It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.
Red Hat Linux is going to show MS how.
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem...21700735NWMSRH
Is this the year linux overtakes MS and Apple on the desktop? :)

I presume that was sarcastic :-) They've only been at it forever and
have less than 1% to show for it. I loaded one of the linux's on an
old pc. It works ok. And the open word/spreadsheet is not bad
either. But as long as windows keeps shipping on new pc's that what
people are going to use.


I've played around with various iterations of linux from time to time.
Twice, I believe, last year. There's nothing substantially wrong with
it, but...and there are a lot of buts.

My experience:

It didn't install properly on my plain vanilla PC desktop. It choked on
setting up my video card, for example. And once I got it installed, I
had to go searching for drivers for hardware. And then I had to go
looking for software. The documentation is awful. The "help" consists of
begging in discussions groups, and getting answers such as "If you
aren't smart enough to figure it out, you shouldn't be using linux."

And then...it was a bear to remove its start up paramenters and settings
from my hard drive.

Now that I've gone completely to the dark side by switching to an Apple
laptop and desktop and OS 10.5x, I have access to a lot of "unix"
software and controls that are also accessible to linux users. So far,
I've used the terminal app.

I bootcamp into VISTA and it works just fine. There's no really good
Apple software that competes with Quicken, for example, and the
BlueChart software for my Garmin GPS demands a Windows system, not an
Apple or Linux system.

I don't see linux being any more than a hobbyist's OS on desktop
machines. On servers, it does much better, of course.

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:49:30 -0500, HK wrote:

RLM wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:45:26 -0500, D.Duck wrote:

"nameless" wrote in message
...
http://xkcd.com/528/
It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.

Red Hat Linux is going to show MS how.
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem...21700735NWMSRH



Is this the year linux overtakes MS and Apple on the desktop? :)

I don't care if that ever happens. I do believe cooperation is better than
theft. Red Hat was my first distro. years ago, so it caught my eye.
That's all, other than being a firm supporter.

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_________________m___~¿õ___m ________________________
A conservative is a man who sits and thinks, mostly sits.
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:49:30 -0500, HK wrote:


Is this the year linux overtakes MS and Apple on the desktop? :)

The desktop isn't where the action is. Mobile phones, PDAs, and embedded
systems is where the action is. It's too soon to predict Linux winning
the battles, but it's not too soon to predict Microsoft being a big
loser.

Did you hear that MS hired a WalMart exec to roll-out their new retail
stores? Retail stores? I wonder where the Great Redmond Innovators came
up with that idea?

From my perspective, technology is passing Microsoft by, and they're
panicked.

"HK" wrote in message
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RLM wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:45:26 -0500, D.Duck wrote:

"nameless" wrote in message
...
http://xkcd.com/528/
It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.

Red Hat Linux is going to show MS how.
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem...21700735NWMSRH



Is this the year linux overtakes MS and Apple on the desktop? :)

Not likely to overtake this year, but they are making steady progress and
are crimping MS margins on the retail.

Windows 7 is regurgitated Vista, as the "Vista" brand makes Edsel look good.
They would SP3 the thing but for two reasons, first they get to bilk users
more to upgrade to sell a new version and second, they realized Vista has
severe issues that a mere service pack cannot fix.

For surfing/mail users, it works. But likely no impending reason to
upgrade. Vista is fragile if you push it hard, but most users don't so it
floats as a low end system.

Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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RLM wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:45:26 -0500, D.Duck wrote:

"nameless" wrote in message
...
http://xkcd.com/528/
It's only in Beta, MS will fix it.
Red Hat Linux is going to show MS how.
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem...21700735NWMSRH


Is this the year linux overtakes MS and Apple on the desktop? :)

Not likely to overtake this year, but they are making steady progress and
are crimping MS margins on the retail.

Windows 7 is regurgitated Vista, as the "Vista" brand makes Edsel look good.
They would SP3 the thing but for two reasons, first they get to bilk users
more to upgrade to sell a new version and second, they realized Vista has
severe issues that a mere service pack cannot fix.

For surfing/mail users, it works. But likely no impending reason to
upgrade. Vista is fragile if you push it hard, but most users don't so it
floats as a low end system.



What do you mean by it "is fragile if you push it hard"?

I pushed VISTA pretty damned hard on my desktop, what with running a DVD
burn, light photo work, word processing, and email simultaneously, and
sometimes tossing in a download for good measure. Sometimes sending or
receiving emails slowed a bit during a download, but that had little to
do with VISTA and more to do with the shortcomings of my 'net connect.

Certainly VISTA has its detractors, and some of the complaints about it
are valid, but most of what I read is nothing more than smoke beling
blown up the alley, or whining from near-virgin computer users who don't
know what they are doing and hope the OS won't notice, either .