Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is
not going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your grand
children from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.

No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a
depression.

Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the
recession last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama
with his pessimistic, gloom and doom attitude isn't doing
much to lead the country forward. He's got everyone
scared, hoarding cash and staying home. All the wrong
things. Congress sees this as an opportunity to fund pet
projects to stimulate their re-election campaign
contributions.


Obama is dishing out reality.

Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired
no one. In fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has
left most wondering if he is up to the task of being president.



Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the
fence are the minority opinion. The majority of Americans are
pleased with Obama. Maybe you can sell that crap to the Rush
crowd.

Why is your side pushing so hard to squash free speech. What
are you afraid of, the truth?



is someone trying to shut you up?

Yes. The Democrats.



Really? Are Democrats coming to your door, ringing your bell, and
asking you if you have found reality?

Yes.


Well, then, you should move out of montgomery county and out to
where justhate lives...the two of you could sit on the porch and
try to figure out how to play the banjo.

6 years and I will be moving out of Montgomery County and Maryland.
The whole state is turning into a sewer.


Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.

Both look good, low taxes.


And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.

Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.

Both look good, low taxes.


And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.

Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.




No need for new material for you. The old material still works and is
still spot-on.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.

Both look good, low taxes.


And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.

Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.




No need for new material for you. The old material still works and is
still spot-on.




You are the most racist person I have ever had the misfortune to
encounter. You view everyone by how you can classify them.

You really must live a miserable existence.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.

Both look good, low taxes.


And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.

Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.




No need for new material for you. The old material still works and is
still spot-on.




You are the most racist person I have ever had the misfortune to
encounter. You view everyone by how you can classify them.

You really must live a miserable existence.


Racist? Moi? I have no negative feelings about people of other races.
Stop projecting your hate onto me.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.

Both look good, low taxes.


And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.

Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.




No need for new material for you. The old material still works and is
still spot-on.




You are the most racist person I have ever had the misfortune to
encounter. You view everyone by how you can classify them.

You really must live a miserable existence.


Racist? Moi? I have no negative feelings about people of other races.
Stop projecting your hate onto me.

Others are correct you aren't worth the time nor the effort.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.

Both look good, low taxes.


And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.

Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.




No need for new material for you. The old material still works and
is still spot-on.




You are the most racist person I have ever had the misfortune to
encounter. You view everyone by how you can classify them.

You really must live a miserable existence.


Racist? Moi? I have no negative feelings about people of other races.
Stop projecting your hate onto me.

Others are correct you aren't worth the time nor the effort.


I doubt you even know what a racist is, or what racism is.

Here's a def from a simple dictionary:

racism |ˈr�ˌsizəm|
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or
abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as
inferior or superior to another race or races.
• prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a
different race based on such a belief


It's not me who makes negative comments here about, for example, blacks
or Latinos. It's your goofy golfing buddy, Herring.

JustHate is another of the right-wing idiots here who accuse me of
"racism," and don't know what the word means. Perhaps the pair of you
should have spent more time at school.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:42:32 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:25:49 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is not
going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your grand
children from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.
No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a depression.
Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the
recession last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama with
his pessimistic, gloom and doom attitude isn't doing much to
lead the country forward. He's got everyone scared, hoarding
cash and staying home. All the wrong things. Congress sees
this as an opportunity to fund pet projects to stimulate their
re-election campaign contributions.

Obama is dishing out reality.
Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired no
one. In fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has left
most wondering if he is up to the task of being president.


Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the
fence are the minority opinion. The majority of Americans are
pleased with Obama. Maybe you can sell that crap to the Rush crowd.
Why is your side pushing so hard to squash free speech. What are
you afraid of, the truth?


is someone trying to shut you up?
Yes. The Democrats.


Really? Are Democrats coming to your door, ringing your bell, and
asking you if you have found reality?
Yes.

Well, then, you should move out of montgomery county and out to where
justhate lives...the two of you could sit on the porch and try to figure
out how to play the banjo.
6 years and I will be moving out of Montgomery County and Maryland. The
whole state is turning into a sewer.

Once yu leave, maybe they can return it to it's previous condition.

Too many lefties in the state these days. It is a lost cause.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Eisboch

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:42:32 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:25:49 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is
not going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your
grand children from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.
No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a
depression.
Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the
recession last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama
with his pessimistic, gloom and doom attitude isn't doing
much to lead the country forward. He's got everyone
scared, hoarding cash and staying home. All the wrong
things. Congress sees this as an opportunity to fund pet
projects to stimulate their re-election campaign
contributions.
Obama is dishing out reality.
Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired
no one. In fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees
has left most wondering if he is up to the task of being
president.


Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the
fence are the minority opinion. The majority of Americans
are pleased with Obama. Maybe you can sell that crap to the
Rush crowd.
Why is your side pushing so hard to squash free speech. What
are you afraid of, the truth?

is someone trying to shut you up?
Yes. The Democrats.

Really? Are Democrats coming to your door, ringing your bell,
and asking you if you have found reality?
Yes.
Well, then, you should move out of montgomery county and out to
where justhate lives...the two of you could sit on the porch and
try to figure out how to play the banjo.
6 years and I will be moving out of Montgomery County and Maryland.
The whole state is turning into a sewer.
Once yu leave, maybe they can return it to it's previous condition.
Too many lefties in the state these days. It is a lost cause.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

"As if?" The policies of the left are turning the state into a third
world country. I expect Krause to make his typical asinine comment about
racism. If the rule of law means anything then it needs to be enforced.

So move. No one will miss you. Surely you can find a decent job in
Mississippi or South Carolina, maybe wrapping miniburgers at crystals.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Yeah, before Obama went to Peoria, I heard that Caterpillar might rehire
if the stimulus was passed, and it didn't sound like the information was
coming from the Obama camp.

I found this:

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/...115349&print=1

It seems to attribute the story to the Peoria Journal Star.
Unfortunately, the page is no longer at that link. Who knows?

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:37:21 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Yeah, before Obama went to Peoria, I heard that Caterpillar might rehire
if the stimulus was passed, and it didn't sound like the information was
coming from the Obama camp.

I found this:

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/...115349&print=1

It seems to attribute the story to the Peoria Journal Star.
Unfortunately, the page is no longer at that link. Who knows?

I also found this:

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?
q=YjRlNzNjZTFhNDMxZmJlMTExODVlMjlmZTM1NDZlOTM=

But if you click on "Press Releases", there is nothing about
Caterpillar. I'm smelling a conspiracy. ;-)

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Eisboch wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens
seemed to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage
now meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was,
"In all honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go
and that in reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any
re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Obama grasping at straws to sell his power grab bill. This is the
perfect opportunity for companies to do wholesale restructuring and
reorganizing using the economic climate as an excuse.

Obama again latched onto a statement made by Caterpillar's CEO. Rather
than doing the due diligence he just jumped at the chance to get in
front of the American people to show the effects of the stimulus bill,
even though it hasn't become law yet, are working.

The stimulus bill is still one big pile of pork.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Feb 13, 7:43*am, BAR wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, *Owens
seemed to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage
now meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. * His answer was,
"In all honesty, no." * He indicated that there was a long ways to go
and that in reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any
re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? *Something screwy here.

Obama grasping at straws to sell his power grab bill. This is the
perfect opportunity for companies to do wholesale restructuring and
reorganizing using the economic climate as an excuse.

Obama again latched onto a statement made by Caterpillar's CEO. Rather
than doing the due diligence he just jumped at the chance to get in
front of the American people to show the effects of the stimulus bill,
even though it hasn't become law yet, are working.

The stimulus bill is still one big pile of pork.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, 1400 pages released last night and might be passed today! Another
campaign lie from Obama and his crew. Obama said there would be time
to review bills, he said also that there would be partisanship, the
Republicans were locked out of the room on this one, not allowed to
offer any admendments. Obama is already the most dishonest president
in history...

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:44:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.

Both look good, low taxes.


And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.

Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.




No need for new material for you. The old material still works and is
still spot-on.




You are the most racist person I have ever had the misfortune to
encounter. You view everyone by how you can classify them.

You really must live a miserable existence.


Racist? Moi? I have no negative feelings about people of other races.
Stop projecting your hate onto me.

Others are correct you aren't worth the time nor the effort.

Good!

Another who's seen the light!

We're going Quantico today. Looks like a pretty day for golf!

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:42:43 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:37:21 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Yeah, before Obama went to Peoria, I heard that Caterpillar might rehire
if the stimulus was passed, and it didn't sound like the information was
coming from the Obama camp.

I found this:

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/...115349&print=1

It seems to attribute the story to the Peoria Journal Star.
Unfortunately, the page is no longer at that link. Who knows?

I also found this:

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?
q=YjRlNzNjZTFhNDMxZmJlMTExODVlMjlmZTM1NDZlOTM=

But if you click on "Press Releases", there is nothing about
Caterpillar. I'm smelling a conspiracy. ;-)

Conspiracy my ass.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...terpillar.html

Another lie from OB is more like it.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

John H wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:44:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.
Both look good, low taxes.

And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.
Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.



No need for new material for you. The old material still works and is
still spot-on.



You are the most racist person I have ever had the misfortune to
encounter. You view everyone by how you can classify them.

You really must live a miserable existence.

Racist? Moi? I have no negative feelings about people of other races.
Stop projecting your hate onto me.
Others are correct you aren't worth the time nor the effort.

Good!

Another who's seen the light!

We're going Quantico today. Looks like a pretty day for golf!

Enjoy, I'll be looking out my office window think ill thoughts about
your putting :)

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic



You think he should be able to predict precisely how many employees at a
company would be hired back?

Absurd.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:24:41 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic



You think he should be able to predict precisely how many employees at a
company would be hired back?

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Absurd.

What's absurd?

--Vic

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:24:41 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic


You think he should be able to predict precisely how many employees at a
company would be hired back?

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.


Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Feb 13, 7:14*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, *Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. * His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." * He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin..

Failure to communicate? *Something screwy here.

Eisboch

It was an attempt to create a talking point to support the pork bill.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:


No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.


Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Feb 13, 11:42*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power. Funny how it's only the four
furthest lefties here that are known for their constant lies too...

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Feb 13, 11:52*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:42 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.
Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.
Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power.

You are so delusional you constantly project your shortcomings here.
*You* have no moral core, no honor, no concern for truthfulness. You
bite on something about someone else, and then you turn it into
something else, and you are so ****ed in the head, you actually
*believe* what you have posted.

You really are a low-life. Everything about you screams it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's funny... you describe yourself to a tee.
Let's try again:

Ok, what's delusional? Obama said "no Lobbyists in his cabinet", he
lied, he said most ethical cabinet ever, he lied, he said 48 hours to
look over bills, he lied, he said he would work across the isle, he
lied, he said most open administration ever, he lied, he said no
earmarks or pork in stimulous, he really lied... Please cite which
one
of these is not true???

I have given you several opportunities here, prove where I have ever
lied here...

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens
seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic


I am not sure who screwed up what. It may not be Obama.
Here's a link to a short video (takes a second to load) of what Obama said
during his visit to the CAT plant and then what the CAT president said
immediately after.

You decide.

http://americaswatchtower.com/2009/02/12/president-obama-lied-about-caterpillar-rehiring-employees-if-the-stimulus-passed/

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens
seemed to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage
now meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was,
"In all honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go
and that in reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any
re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic


You think he should be able to predict precisely how many employees at a
company would be hired back?

Absurd.

Obama didn't say how many. That was accurate. The fact that he said the
CAT president told him he would hire some workers back is what is
controversial. The CAT president actually said, "In all honesty, no",
immediately after Obama's speech and then indicated that even more lay-offs
will probably occur.

Eisboch

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:


No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.


Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic\

I am not casting any stones. Maybe the CAT president lied to Obama. Maybe
he changed his mind.
All I know is that it was unusual for Obama to say it, then have the CAT
president basically deny it.

I caught a bit of body language I think, when I watched the video. When
Obama made the statement that "Jim, over there" told me that passage of the
stimulus package will allow him to re-hire some of the laid-off workers",
he did so with gesture and look that suggested, "Back me up here"....
Just my opinion.

Eisboch

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

somethin' is not right here....


On Feb 13, 10:21*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...





On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic\

I am not casting any stones. *Maybe the CAT president lied to Obama. *Maybe
he changed his mind.
All I know is that it was unusual for Obama to say it, then have the CAT
president basically deny it.

I caught a bit of body language I think, when I watched the video. *When
Obama made the statement that "Jim, over there" told me that passage of the
stimulus package will allow him to re-hire some of the laid-off workers",
he did so with gesture and look that suggested, "Back me up here"....
Just my opinion.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Feb 13, 12:21*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...





On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic\

I am not casting any stones. *Maybe the CAT president lied to Obama. *Maybe
he changed his mind.
All I know is that it was unusual for Obama to say it, then have the CAT
president basically deny it.

I caught a bit of body language I think, when I watched the video. *When
Obama made the statement that "Jim, over there" told me that passage of the
stimulus package will allow him to re-hire some of the laid-off workers",
he did so with gesture and look that suggested, "Back me up here"....
Just my opinion.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Body language indeed.. If you listen to Obama carefully, he changes
his dialect a bit when he is lying, he cuts off his words kind of says
them staccato... It is interesting, I noticed it last year first, and
continued to notice it up until the present. I noticed it in the south
when I lived down there, mostly with salesmen...

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:20:40 -0500, BAR wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:44:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Well, Monty County is too crowded for me. Try South Carolina or
Mississippi.
Both look good, low taxes.

And filled with bigots just like you. Republican paradise.
Do you have any new material? You need to hire a better writing staff.



No need for new material for you. The old material still works and is
still spot-on.



You are the most racist person I have ever had the misfortune to
encounter. You view everyone by how you can classify them.

You really must live a miserable existence.

Racist? Moi? I have no negative feelings about people of other races.
Stop projecting your hate onto me.
Others are correct you aren't worth the time nor the effort.

Good!

Another who's seen the light!

We're going Quantico today. Looks like a pretty day for golf!

Enjoy, I'll be looking out my office window think ill thoughts about
your putting :)

Actually not too bad. I shot a 91. Little breezy, but very enjoyable
weather.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:52:00 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:42 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.
Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.
Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power.

You are so delusional you constantly project your shortcomings here.
*You* have no moral core, no honor, no concern for truthfulness. You
bite on something about someone else, and then you turn it into
something else, and you are so ****ed in the head, you actually
*believe* what you have posted.

You really are a low-life. Everything about you screams it.

Hee, hee.

Harry accused Scotty of 'no concern for truthfulness'.

Now *that's* funny!

Donnie, you need to come give Harry a pat on the back for that one.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:29:13 -0800 (PST), "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

somethin' is not right here....


On Feb 13, 10:21*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...





On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic\

I am not casting any stones. *Maybe the CAT president lied to Obama. *Maybe
he changed his mind.
All I know is that it was unusual for Obama to say it, then have the CAT
president basically deny it.

I caught a bit of body language I think, when I watched the video. *When
Obama made the statement that "Jim, over there" told me that passage of the
stimulus package will allow him to re-hire some of the laid-off workers",
he did so with gesture and look that suggested, "Back me up here"....
Just my opinion.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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You're right. BO got caught. Just like Harry frequently gets caught.
It is, I believe, a 'liberal' thing.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

On Feb 13, 1:23*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:52:00 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:42 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.
Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.
Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power.

You are so delusional you constantly project your shortcomings here.
*You* have no moral core, no honor, no concern for truthfulness. You
bite on something about someone else, and then you turn it into
something else, and you are so ****ed in the head, you actually
*believe* what you have posted.

You really are a low-life. Everything about you screams it.

Hee, hee.

Harry accused Scotty of 'no concern for truthfulness'.

Now *that's* funny!

Donnie, you need to come give Harry a pat on the back for that one.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's only because he could not dispute my observations... He is
about as honest as our new President.

Barakolypse is upon us, we are screwed...

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:52:00 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:42 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.
Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.
Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power.

You are so delusional you constantly project your shortcomings here.
*You* have no moral core, no honor, no concern for truthfulness. You
bite on something about someone else, and then you turn it into
something else, and you are so ****ed in the head, you actually
*believe* what you have posted.

You really are a low-life. Everything about you screams it.

Hee, hee.

Harry accused Scotty of 'no concern for truthfulness'.

Now *that's* funny!

Donnie, you need to come give Harry a pat on the back for that one.

If you recognized a well written response, "you need to come give Harry a
pat on the back for that one".
No one will think the less of you for a deserved compliment.

Stimulus would let Caterpillar rehire workers: Obama
 

Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:52:00 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:42 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.
Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.
Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic
Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power.
You are so delusional you constantly project your shortcomings here.
*You* have no moral core, no honor, no concern for truthfulness. You
bite on something about someone else, and then you turn it into
something else, and you are so ****ed in the head, you actually
*believe* what you have posted.

You really are a low-life. Everything about you screams it.
Hee, hee.

Harry accused Scotty of 'no concern for truthfulness'.

Now *that's* funny!

Donnie, you need to come give Harry a pat on the back for that one.

If you recognized a well written response, "you need to come give Harry a
pat on the back for that one".
No one will think the less of you for a deserved compliment.




Herring is an asshole. I donated a few bucks to his daughter's cause
because I didn't believe the hatred and stupidity of the father should
be visited upon the daughter.