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werlax September 8th 03 05:31 PM

trim tabs
 
My next purchase for our 18' bowrider (4.3L Mercruiser, 14x23P, 1.81)
will be trim tabs because I like the idea of planing quicker and a
more level ride for an unbalanced load (like me sitting on one side
and my wife on the other). :)
Given my unfamiliarity with them, I'd like to know a couple of things.
I am comparing the Smart Tabs by Nauticus and manual adjust trim tabs
with a control at the helm. What reason would I need to manually
adjust the tabs? Will this make my outdrive trim unnecessary if I
were to go with the Smart Tabs?
Thanks for any help!

-v- September 8th 03 09:21 PM

trim tabs
 

"werlax" wrote in message
om...
My next purchase for our 18' bowrider (4.3L Mercruiser, 14x23P, 1.81)
will be trim tabs because I like the idea of planing quicker and a
more level ride for an unbalanced load (like me sitting on one side
and my wife on the other). :)
Given my unfamiliarity with them, I'd like to know a couple of things.
I am comparing the Smart Tabs by Nauticus and manual adjust trim tabs
with a control at the helm. What reason would I need to manually
adjust the tabs? Will this make my outdrive trim unnecessary if I
were to go with the Smart Tabs?
Thanks for any help!

Bennett is the only way to go with trim tabs. I have used them since 1989.

You want to be able to adjust the tabs individually so you can trim out the
boat from side to side.



Bill Andersen September 9th 03 03:48 PM

trim tabs
 
I plan on adding Smart Tabs to my 19' bowrider in a couple of weeks. They
cost significantly less than Bennett.
I expect the trim tabs to do a better job of getting me on plane without a
lot of bow rise, and to let me stay on plane at slower speeds. Nice for
wakeboarding and tubing with children. (I've been using a hydro-foil to
avoid bow rise for a couple of years.)
Tabs that are individually adjustable, remotely, while under power, are nice
because you can compensate for weight port and starboard. You pay the extra
money to have that convenience.
Smart Tabs are set when you install (and test ride) them; after that they
work on water pressure against the nitrogen filled cylinder. I'm hoping mine
will help with leveling the boat port/starboard when heavy people move
about, but don't know how much improvement too expect.
Trimming the outdrive only helps when on plane. I normally keep mine trimmed
all the way down; once on plane, I give it a couple of taps up and get a
little more speed/RPM as it lifts the bow up a little.

"-v-" wrote in message
m...

"werlax" wrote in message
om...
My next purchase for our 18' bowrider (4.3L Mercruiser, 14x23P, 1.81)
will be trim tabs because I like the idea of planing quicker and a
more level ride for an unbalanced load (like me sitting on one side
and my wife on the other). :)
Given my unfamiliarity with them, I'd like to know a couple of things.
I am comparing the Smart Tabs by Nauticus and manual adjust trim tabs
with a control at the helm. What reason would I need to manually
adjust the tabs? Will this make my outdrive trim unnecessary if I
were to go with the Smart Tabs?
Thanks for any help!

Bennett is the only way to go with trim tabs. I have used them since 1989.

You want to be able to adjust the tabs individually so you can trim out

the
boat from side to side.





werlax September 9th 03 07:25 PM

trim tabs
 
"Bill Andersen" wrote in message news:rKl7b.50891$nf3.46453@fed1read07...
I plan on adding Smart Tabs to my 19' bowrider in a couple of weeks. They
cost significantly less than Bennett.

Yep, this is definately one of the larger pros for the Smart Tabs.
I'd be interested in reading a summary of your thoughts after you get
them installed and tested out. Are you installing them yourself?
Were you able to find any deals or did you buy them direct from
Nauticus?

Thanks!

Lawrence James September 9th 03 10:21 PM

trim tabs
 
I have the small bennetts on my 19' bowrider and they are great. I would
not be happy if I could not adjust them for conditions. Like putting them
down some in choppy water keeps the ride smoother and less porposing. But
at the same speed in clear water I'll have them all the way up. I also put
them full down when wakeboarding to increase the wake and let the boat plan
slower.

"Bill Andersen" wrote in message
news:rKl7b.50891$nf3.46453@fed1read07...
I plan on adding Smart Tabs to my 19' bowrider in a couple of weeks. They
cost significantly less than Bennett.
I expect the trim tabs to do a better job of getting me on plane without a
lot of bow rise, and to let me stay on plane at slower speeds. Nice for
wakeboarding and tubing with children. (I've been using a hydro-foil to
avoid bow rise for a couple of years.)
Tabs that are individually adjustable, remotely, while under power, are

nice
because you can compensate for weight port and starboard. You pay the

extra
money to have that convenience.
Smart Tabs are set when you install (and test ride) them; after that they
work on water pressure against the nitrogen filled cylinder. I'm hoping

mine
will help with leveling the boat port/starboard when heavy people move
about, but don't know how much improvement too expect.
Trimming the outdrive only helps when on plane. I normally keep mine

trimmed
all the way down; once on plane, I give it a couple of taps up and get a
little more speed/RPM as it lifts the bow up a little.

"-v-" wrote in message
m...

"werlax" wrote in message
om...
My next purchase for our 18' bowrider (4.3L Mercruiser, 14x23P, 1.81)
will be trim tabs because I like the idea of planing quicker and a
more level ride for an unbalanced load (like me sitting on one side
and my wife on the other). :)
Given my unfamiliarity with them, I'd like to know a couple of things.
I am comparing the Smart Tabs by Nauticus and manual adjust trim tabs
with a control at the helm. What reason would I need to manually
adjust the tabs? Will this make my outdrive trim unnecessary if I
were to go with the Smart Tabs?
Thanks for any help!

Bennett is the only way to go with trim tabs. I have used them since

1989.

You want to be able to adjust the tabs individually so you can trim out

the
boat from side to side.







-v- September 10th 03 10:57 PM

trim tabs
 

"Bill Andersen" wrote in message
news:bBH7b.52406$nf3.28740@fed1read07...
I'll be doing the installation of Smart Tabs myself. Read the installation
manual on their web site and it looks like I'll be spending more time
planning and making the initial settings than actually mounting them.
For those who recommend Bennett, I don't disagree that they may be better.
But, we're talking about 18'-19' boats and several hundred dollars
difference in price. And long trips? in a 19' boat? Most of us are

dragging
kids around a lake in a tube/on a wakeboard or going a few miles to a
fishing spot - not on long trips.


Not being able to trim the boat side to side for load/wind conditions is a
very serious drwback to the Smart Tabs.

I don't think I would spend a couple of hundred $ on them.



BB September 11th 03 03:29 PM

trim tabs
 
Let me rephrase that "long trip" to all day boating regardless of distance.
If you travel an hour in rough water to your desitination in a boat that is
tilted to one side, it will seem like a loooong trip if you can't trim side
to side.


"Bill Andersen" wrote in message
news:bBH7b.52406$nf3.28740@fed1read07...
I'll be doing the installation of Smart Tabs myself. Read the installation
manual on their web site and it looks like I'll be spending more time
planning and making the initial settings than actually mounting them.
For those who recommend Bennett, I don't disagree that they may be better.
But, we're talking about 18'-19' boats and several hundred dollars
difference in price. And long trips? in a 19' boat? Most of us are

dragging
kids around a lake in a tube/on a wakeboard or going a few miles to a
fishing spot - not on long trips.


"BB" wrote in message
...
Go with fully adjustable Bennett trim tabs, you won't be sorry. Write

the
factory and tell them what boat and hull design you are putting them

on -
ask for their recomendation. That's the route I took back in the late

70's,
have been very pleased with the result, they always did what I asked

them
to
do. It's very tiring to drive a boat that is tilted a little off center

when
on plane on a long trip. Being able to adjust trim on plane, when people
move around the boat is a real PLUS.

Bill
"werlax" wrote in message
om...
My next purchase for our 18' bowrider (4.3L Mercruiser, 14x23P, 1.81)
will be trim tabs because I like the idea of planing quicker and a
more level ride for an unbalanced load (like me sitting on one side
and my wife on the other). :)
Given my unfamiliarity with them, I'd like to know a couple of things.
I am comparing the Smart Tabs by Nauticus and manual adjust trim tabs
with a control at the helm. What reason would I need to manually
adjust the tabs? Will this make my outdrive trim unnecessary if I
were to go with the Smart Tabs?
Thanks for any help!








werlax September 12th 03 04:54 AM

trim tabs
 
"BB" wrote in message ...
It's very tiring to drive a boat that is tilted a little off center when
on plane on a long trip. Being able to adjust trim on plane, when people
move around the boat is a real PLUS.

From reading the Nauticus website, it seems to me that the Smart Tabs
are supposed to be able to counteract this tilt. It makes sense that
the actuator would respond by pushing back harder against the flow of
water on the side that's deeper in the water?
I'm not trying to talk myself out of a manual adjustment tab, but the
price of the manual tabs are about 3x more expensive and I'm just
trying to make the right decision.
Thanks for the responses!

werlax September 12th 03 05:20 AM

trim tabs
 
"BB" wrote in message ...
It's very tiring to drive a boat that is tilted a little off center when
on plane on a long trip. Being able to adjust trim on plane, when people
move around the boat is a real PLUS.

Never mind what I wrote earlier about load balancing and the Smart
Tabs. I was thinking about it, and if they were to adjust to more
water pressure on one side (as in a tilted position), then I would
imagine they would prevent the boat from turning very well. Wouldn't
you end up walking sideways rather than leaning into the turn since
they're constantly trying to level the boat?

Paul September 12th 03 02:16 PM

trim tabs
 
Good question. These things seem interesting. I have Bennetts so I'm good
but this is still interesting, if you dig up some reviews or something post
it here so we can get some edjickation.

"werlax" wrote in message
om...
"BB" wrote in message

...
It's very tiring to drive a boat that is tilted a little off center when
on plane on a long trip. Being able to adjust trim on plane, when people
move around the boat is a real PLUS.

Never mind what I wrote earlier about load balancing and the Smart
Tabs. I was thinking about it, and if they were to adjust to more
water pressure on one side (as in a tilted position), then I would
imagine they would prevent the boat from turning very well. Wouldn't
you end up walking sideways rather than leaning into the turn since
they're constantly trying to level the boat?




noah September 13th 03 12:07 AM

trim tabs
 
On 11 Sep 2003 20:54:25 -0700, (werlax) wrote:

"BB" wrote in message ...
It's very tiring to drive a boat that is tilted a little off center when
on plane on a long trip. Being able to adjust trim on plane, when people
move around the boat is a real PLUS.

From reading the Nauticus website, it seems to me that the Smart Tabs
are supposed to be able to counteract this tilt. It makes sense that
the actuator would respond by pushing back harder against the flow of
water on the side that's deeper in the water?
I'm not trying to talk myself out of a manual adjustment tab, but the
price of the manual tabs are about 3x more expensive and I'm just
trying to make the right decision.
Thanks for the responses!


You are certainly doing your "homework". :o)

The truth is that "spring" or "shock" loaded tabs will not balance an
unevenly loaded boat. They *will* pop you on plane quicker, but will
not correct "list". They may help (because the tab is always
"active"), but you have no control over *how* active.

In other words, they will help, but don't expect perfection.
Good luck,
noah


noah September 13th 03 02:34 AM

trim tabs
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:15:14 GMT, "Ken Tanaka"
wrote:

I agree with noah. I have the smart tabs on my 16' Arima. Started with the
CoBra Edge HF on my 70hp Evinrude 4-stroke. Added the Smart Tabs because I
wasn't quite satisfied w/the Edge. Did a lot of different tests (Edge only,
Smart Tabs only, and both HF & tabs), the Smart Tabs kept my bow down
better and it planed faster.

My port side has a 9.9hp Evinrude 2-stroke kicker on a SS Gerelick bracket.
The stern has a 24-group battery on the starboard side, 27 gallon gas tank
in the middle and a 3-gallon tank for the kicker on the port side. The
Smart Tabs will not control listing like a hydraulic tabs. I do that by
shifting around my 152 qt. Igloo full of ice. As you can tell, my ass end
is quite heavy (boat - not mine).

On two separate occasion (145 lb. Pacific Blue Marlin, 136 lb. Yellowfin
Tuna) while alone, I was able to put the fish in my 7-foot insulated fish
bag. Once I couldn't boat a 150 lb. marlin because the water was a little
rough and I kept sliding back to the gunwale so I just tied it to my port
side and dragged it back. I adjusted the list accordingly. If your primary
purpose is to control the listing, I'd get hydraulics. Mine was to get the
bow down. Because the added weight in the stern helps during following and
head seas.

Hope this helps.

Ken Tanaka
Pearl City, HI



Ken,

I noticed your name here a couple of times tonight.
Welcome to the group.
Don't take any wooden nickels. :o)

noah

Ken Tanaka September 13th 03 03:11 AM

trim tabs
 
I also got excellent service from Nauticus. My boat sits outside with no
cover and one of the rubber boot had cracks in them after the warranty
expired, they sent me a pair without charge. 6 mos. later one of the
actuator's shaft was rusting so they sent me a pair complete with boots - no
charge.

People say these Hawaiian waters are saltier than others, don't know if this
is true. I already changed my galvanized 1999 ShoreLander trailer last
year. My new 2002 galvanized EZ Loader shows signs of rust even though I
had it rustproofed inside and out before switching. Cost of living in
"Paradise". Ken

BTW: If anyone wants the CoBra Edge aluminum alloy stabilizer for 70 HP &
up, I'll send it to him/her for free if the pay the shipping (about 6 lbs.).
Has some paint chip and surface rust but serviceable.


"Ken Tanaka" wrote in message
...
I agree with noah. I have the smart tabs on my 16' Arima. Started with

the
CoBra Edge HF on my 70hp Evinrude 4-stroke. Added the Smart Tabs because

I
wasn't quite satisfied w/the Edge. Did a lot of different tests (Edge

only,
Smart Tabs only, and both HF & tabs), the Smart Tabs kept my bow down
better and it planed faster.

My port side has a 9.9hp Evinrude 2-stroke kicker on a SS Gerelick

bracket.
The stern has a 24-group battery on the starboard side, 27 gallon gas tank
in the middle and a 3-gallon tank for the kicker on the port side. The
Smart Tabs will not control listing like a hydraulic tabs. I do that by
shifting around my 152 qt. Igloo full of ice. As you can tell, my ass end
is quite heavy (boat - not mine).

On two separate occasion (145 lb. Pacific Blue Marlin, 136 lb. Yellowfin
Tuna) while alone, I was able to put the fish in my 7-foot insulated fish
bag. Once I couldn't boat a 150 lb. marlin because the water was a little
rough and I kept sliding back to the gunwale so I just tied it to my port
side and dragged it back. I adjusted the list accordingly. If your

primary
purpose is to control the listing, I'd get hydraulics. Mine was to get

the
bow down. Because the added weight in the stern helps during following

and
head seas.

Hope this helps.

Ken Tanaka
Pearl City, HI





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