On Feb 11, 3:13 pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:31:36 -0500, HK wrote:

From December through March, south Florida is the place to be in the
united states.

Wouldn't mind living there then, but for vacations I choose the
summer/fall months.
Not just because rates are cheaper, but because I go there for the
beach and fishing.
Hate to waste a week of vacation if it got cool down there during the
winter. And it does.
But I don't go farther south than Punta Gorda nowadays.

--Vic

Ahh. Well, for many years, we used to spend at least a week at Bal
Harbour in February. Beautiful beaches, not crowded at all, and terrific
fishing about a mile offshore.

Solution to Florida's population problems and development problems is
to outlaw Air Conditioning. My fantasy is to develop a bio-engineered
bacteria that eats freon.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:05:30 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Harry is just trolling for Wayne. Not too subtly, I might add.


Harry is in my KF on most computers so I'd guess fishing leaves a lot
to be desired. That said, the convenience and cost savings of having
your own boat dock is hard to over estimate.


I know. I'd die for Wayne's place. And boat. But, that's me.

Come on down; weather is great and the guest room is empty. Let me
know what flight to meet and how many people are coming. I picked up
a friend of ours flying in from Seattle last night and the airport was
packed with snow bird arrivals from all over.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:41:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Oh, you know how it is with Harry. If he doesn't like something, no
one else should either. I can see the fat ******* sweating like a pig
and whining constantly.

It's not really clear if Harry is welcome in Florida. Either he or
his evil twin is sort of a persona non grata here if you get my drift.
Not having a full time job is an issue also since his primary means of
support works in DC.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:13 pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:31:36 -0500, HK wrote:
From December through March, south Florida is the place to be in the
united states.
Wouldn't mind living there then, but for vacations I choose the
summer/fall months.
Not just because rates are cheaper, but because I go there for the
beach and fishing.
Hate to waste a week of vacation if it got cool down there during the
winter. And it does.
But I don't go farther south than Punta Gorda nowadays.
--Vic
Ahh. Well, for many years, we used to spend at least a week at Bal
Harbour in February. Beautiful beaches, not crowded at all, and terrific
fishing about a mile offshore.

Solution to Florida's population problems and development problems is
to outlaw Air Conditioning. My fantasy is to develop a bio-engineered
bacteria that eats freon.


If it weren't for tourists, you and your albino relatives would be
sitting on a rotting wood porch, trying to figure out how to play the
banjo and wondering the broken refrigerator there was actually used for...

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:41:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Oh, you know how it is with Harry. If he doesn't like something, no
one else should either. I can see the fat ******* sweating like a pig
and whining constantly.

It's not really clear if Harry is welcome in Florida. Either he or
his evil twin is sort of a persona non grata here if you get my drift.
Not having a full time job is an issue also since his primary means of
support works in DC.



What are you raving about now, W'hine?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:33:08 -0500, D K
wrote:

There aren't a lot of waterfront homes in SW FL unless you include those
with canal/river access.

Canal property is the most desirable for boating - much better
protection from storms.


For boating, sure. The property values of true ocean-front property are
still holding well since the super-rich can afford them. They are still
tearing down huge homes on the ocean to build bigger homes.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:07:33 -0500, John H
wrote:

Come on down; weather is great and the guest room is empty. Let me
know what flight to meet and how many people are coming. I picked up
a friend of ours flying in from Seattle last night and the airport was
packed with snow bird arrivals from all over.

Did Chuck Gould stop by to say 'hello', and you didn't tell anybody?

No, one of our neighbors who sort of commutes back and forth. There
are a surprising number of people here from the PNW.

wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:42:22 -0500, Gene
wrote:

That area of FL is heavily populated by snowbirds from the upper
Midwest.... the people that have been hammered the worst in this
economy.

5 years ago that was true. Everyone came down I-75 but in the last
boom people figured out how to get across from I-95 without getting
arrested in Waldo and we are seeing a lot of east coast tags now.


Ahhh, Waldo...speed trap center of America. We used to shoot across from
St. Augustine to Green Cove Springs to Starke and then creep south
through Waldo on the way to Gainesville, where seeeester-in-law went to
college. I recall Waldo also had a bunch of crummy antique shops and a
huge outdoor market. Not much else.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:48:14 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:42:22 -0500, Gene
wrote:

That area of FL is heavily populated by snowbirds from the upper
Midwest.... the people that have been hammered the worst in this
economy.

5 years ago that was true. Everyone came down I-75 but in the last
boom people figured out how to get across from I-95 without getting
arrested in Waldo and we are seeing a lot of east coast tags now.

Heh. Not me, I divorced NY just as soon as possible and got real
"Sunshine State" tags.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:16:39 -0500, HK wrote:

I'm not a big fan of those houses on the manmade canals. In fact, I'm
not a big fan of having waterfront property with a boat dock. Looking
out the den window and seeing a big boat or my neighbor's house across
the canal is not to my taste. I'd rather park the boat at a nearby
marina.

If my boat was in a marina I probably wouldn't use it very much.
Certainly not 4 or 5 times a week. The trick is finding a short canal
with no traffic and nobody out your
back door. I passed the house next to the one I posted and went around
the corner on a dead end canal. I am 300' from the river but I don't
ever see any boat traffic and it is a very private yard.


I don't think I could ever get used to living in south Florida because
of the heat from April through October. But obviously lots of folks
like it.

I really don't think it is any hotter here in the summer than it was
in DC. I remember lots of days over 100 there in the summer. It never
gets much more than the mid 90s here if you are near the water. The
real difference is at night but that is what AC is for. Now if 50-60
is your favorite temperature, we don't have much for you here 9 months
of the year.
I like 75-85 myself but I boat and swim in my pool a lot.


75-85 is also my preferred summertime temp.
When we lived in north Florida, I'd have business trips a few times a
month to south Florida, both on the Miami side and on your side, well,
usually in Tampa-St. Pete. Almost always, as soon as I got off the plane
in your latitudes in the spring or summer, I was knocked over by the
heat.


Reminds me of reporting to Puerto Rico for duty while in the Navy. I flew
to San Juan in October, wearing my winter dress uniform. Stepped out of
the airplane upon arrival and felt like I got punched in the stomach. It
took about a month to acclimate.

Eisboch



Same thing in Biloxi, Mississippi. After awhile you acclimatized. Came
home on leave about the 4th of July and nearly froze next to San Francisco
Bay.