Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
No NO Not finally!! This is terrible for the everyone! This is not
stimulus when union workers are only 16% of the construction trades
workforce! that leaves 84% of every person in the trade discriminated
against.
I am an Electrician and my company is located near D.C. All of our
jobs are government buildings. This order is going to take that away
from me. I am going to have to join a union in order to work? thats
stupid

I make more money than a union worker who does the same job, because I
get the same pay and benifits but I dont have to pay any money to the
union.



bullschitt.


Why is that "bullschitt" Harry, whatever the word "bullschitt" means?

Eisboch

It is very unlikely he gets the same pay and benefits as a union
electrician. And on the possibility he does, why does he think he gets
the same pay and benefits?

In virtually every market ENR surveys, union rates are higher than
non-union rates, and the benefits are better, too.

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Why is that "bullschitt" Harry, whatever the word "bullschitt" means?

Eisboch



It is very unlikely he gets the same pay and benefits as a union
electrician. And on the possibility he does, why does he think he gets the
same pay and benefits?


I don't understand the question. The guy says he earns more money with
benefits than a union electrician doing the same job because he doesn't have
to pay union dues. I don't find that unusual. I know you do.



In virtually every market ENR surveys, union rates are higher than
non-union rates, and the benefits are better, too.


You should stop reading surveys and polls and start paying attention to real
world data.
Your sources are obviously biased.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Why is that "bullschitt" Harry, whatever the word "bullschitt" means?

Eisboch



It is very unlikely he gets the same pay and benefits as a union
electrician. And on the possibility he does, why does he think he gets
the same pay and benefits?


I don't understand the question. The guy says he earns more money with
benefits than a union electrician doing the same job because he doesn't
have to pay union dues. I don't find that unusual. I know you do.



In virtually every market ENR surveys, union rates are higher than
non-union rates, and the benefits are better, too.


You should stop reading surveys and polls and start paying attention to
real world data.
Your sources are obviously biased.

Eisboch




Right. I should take the word of some unknown yokel over the time
honored and accepted salary and cost reports of engineering news-record.

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

Why is that "bullschitt" Harry, whatever the word "bullschitt"
means?

Eisboch



It is very unlikely he gets the same pay and benefits as a union
electrician. And on the possibility he does, why does he think he gets
the same pay and benefits?


I don't understand the question. The guy says he earns more money with
benefits than a union electrician doing the same job because he doesn't
have to pay union dues. I don't find that unusual. I know you do.



In virtually every market ENR surveys, union rates are higher than
non-union rates, and the benefits are better, too.


You should stop reading surveys and polls and start paying attention to
real world data.
Your sources are obviously biased.

Eisboch




Right. I should take the word of some unknown yokel over the time honored
and accepted salary and cost reports of engineering news-record.


I take the word of numerous tradespeople I've met over the years, including
employees of my company.

Your spin is bullschitt, whatever that means.

Eisboch

wrote in message
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No NO Not finally!! This is terrible for the everyone! This is not
stimulus when union workers are only 16% of the construction trades
workforce! that leaves 84% of every person in the trade discriminated
against.
I am an Electrician and my company is located near D.C. All of our
jobs are government buildings. This order is going to take that away
from me. I am going to have to join a union in order to work? thats
stupid

I make more money than a union worker who does the same job, because I
get the same pay and benifits but I dont have to pay any money to the
union. I dont have to listen to a union telling me what to do.

Unions tell their members not to work hard because it will take away
someone elses job. Who wants more rules?
Its just not American.

If your good at what job you do, then you dont need a union to protect
your job. Every single union electrician is the laziest worker ever,
they brag to me about how they only put up 300ft of pipe in a day, I
can work so slow that I start to get bored and still get 2,000ft of
pipe up in one day.

I voted for Obama, I had no idea that he is going to start Billions of
dollars in projects but first make sure that only 16% of the work
force has the oppurtunity to get the work.

This is an outrage
This is going to take my job away!
Obama has never worked a blue collar job in his life yet he wants to
do this, very sneaky, without congress or the news.
The NAZI party was the Workers Party the unions!

This order keeps all the stimulus money out of the hands of the
hardest working americans! thats so wrong!

please send letters to Obama and your congressmen and the network
news. I am, because this has to be changed back thsi discrimination
against the majority of workers should not be! Please help me to get
this changed!

AMEN brother! They just don't friggen get it. Apparently, the Unions were a
big contibutor to his campaign. I'm a general contractor, and I have many,
many stories similar to yours.

--Mike