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[email protected] February 10th 09 01:35 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 
On Feb 9, 8:28*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...





On Feb 9, 2:58 pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:53 pm, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


On Feb 9, 12:51 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 12:46 pm, wrote:


On Feb 9, 11:55 am, HK wrote:


Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:27 am, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
I am building a version of Glen-L "Importer" slide in truck
mounted
camper for my Nissan Frontier and I thought my experience
with
building 4 boats would be helpful but the techniques are
very
different. *The camper has 1"X2" framing with 3/16 ply on
the
inside
and Aluminum sheet on the outside. *From a boat building
perspective,
structurally, this sounds like crap. *I am desperately
trying to
suppress my normal tendency to think "Hey, I've got a better
way"
because my wife wants it to look good so I am really trying
to
follow
directions. *I am liberally applying epoxy to all joined
surfaces
instead of simply using wood glue as per directions but the
whole
process seems "wrong" still. *Unfortunately, the design is
from
1972
before epoxy was available. *I would really prefer a design
similar to
boat building where strength is obtained from rounded shapes
covered
with glass and epoxy, sort of a stitch and glue camper. *I
will
glass
some of the joints that I think need it. *I'd glass the
whole
thing
but weight is an issue.
Will yours look like this?


http://www.belairshells.com/generic.tpl?PageName=11


Or are you building something embarrassing?


Harry, I am totally oblivious to things that would embarass
most
people. *What I build might embarass my wife though. *No, the
camper
topper you show costs so little that I'd just go buy one.
What i
want
is a slide in cab-over hard shell camper like the ones made by
Lance.
I do not want one with pop up canvas because I will be in
places
with
bears, wolves and panthers (Wyoming) and although I have
camped
with
bears wandering round my tent (even wandering round me
sleeping
outside my tent) I feel I have "been there, done that" and
want the
peace of mind of hard sides.


Why not just buy one?


http://www.six-pac.com/fits.htm-Hidequotedtext-


- Show quoted text -


Because some people take pride in crafting something using their
own
given skills. And unlike you, most people are skilled enough to do
so.


I just wanted to make something else. *I figure that if this is
successful, my wife might give in to my plans to rebuild the old log
cabin on our WY property.


I thought that building the Tolman would convince my wife that I was
competent to make things but she does not like power boats. *So, now
I
am doing the dog fence (fencing in nearly an acre) but she keeps
changing her mind about how it should look. *So, when we take the
camper to WY and are staying right next to the cabin, she will not be
able to doubt my ability to rebuild the cabin. *Of course, I'll
probably rebuild the cabin anyway regardless of what she wants (She
wants a "real" cabin with actual appliances, BORING.)


Too bad you couldn't take your fence building skills down to Atlanta
and
enclose LoonyTunes and his 'winter crop'.
The law-abidin' citizens of Georgia would appreciate it.- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


Are you accusing me of breaking laws? Which ones?


If it weren't for the dogs, I dont b'leve in fences. *I'd rather see
the neighbor kids cutting through my yard so I know what they are
doing. *On the WY property, I took the fence down and told the
neighbors to feel free to cut across it to get to the snowmobile
trails. *I figure that if they go across my property, they'll look
after the place when I am not there.


You've never met LoonyTunes, JustHate & their ilk.
Best to keep them fenced in on their property, or fenced out of yours.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, really? Tell everyone just what you know about me? Answer:
Nothing.

[email protected] February 10th 09 01:35 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 
On Feb 9, 8:33*pm, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
On Feb 9, 2:58 pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:53 pm, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
On Feb 9, 12:51 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 12:46 pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:55 am, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:27 am, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
I am building a version of Glen-L "Importer" slide in truck
mounted
camper for my Nissan Frontier and I thought my experience
with
building 4 boats would be helpful but the techniques are
very
different. *The camper has 1"X2" framing with 3/16 ply on
the
inside
and Aluminum sheet on the outside. *From a boat building
perspective,
structurally, this sounds like crap. *I am desperately
trying to
suppress my normal tendency to think "Hey, I've got a better
way"
because my wife wants it to look good so I am really trying
to
follow
directions. *I am liberally applying epoxy to all joined
surfaces
instead of simply using wood glue as per directions but the
whole
process seems "wrong" still. *Unfortunately, the design is
from
1972
before epoxy was available. *I would really prefer a design
similar to
boat building where strength is obtained from rounded shapes
covered
with glass and epoxy, sort of a stitch and glue camper. *I
will
glass
some of the joints that I think need it. *I'd glass the
whole
thing
but weight is an issue.
Will yours look like this?
http://www.belairshells.com/generic.tpl?PageName=11
Or are you building something embarrassing?
Harry, I am totally oblivious to things that would embarass
most
people. *What I build might embarass my wife though. *No, the
camper
topper you show costs so little that I'd just go buy one.
What i
want
is a slide in cab-over hard shell camper like the ones made by
Lance.
I do not want one with pop up canvas because I will be in
places
with
bears, wolves and panthers (Wyoming) and although I have
camped
with
bears wandering round my tent (even wandering round me
sleeping
outside my tent) I feel I have "been there, done that" and
want the
peace of mind of hard sides.
Why not just buy one?
http://www.six-pac.com/fits.htm-Hidequotedtext-
- Show quoted text -
Because some people take pride in crafting something using their
own
given skills. And unlike you, most people are skilled enough to do
so.
I just wanted to make something else. *I figure that if this is
successful, my wife might give in to my plans to rebuild the old log
cabin on our WY property.
I thought that building the Tolman would convince my wife that I was
competent to make things but she does not like power boats. *So, now
I
am doing the dog fence (fencing in nearly an acre) but she keeps
changing her mind about how it should look. *So, when we take the
camper to WY and are staying right next to the cabin, she will not be
able to doubt my ability to rebuild the cabin. *Of course, I'll
probably rebuild the cabin anyway regardless of what she wants (She
wants a "real" cabin with actual appliances, BORING.)
Too bad you couldn't take your fence building skills down to Atlanta
and
enclose LoonyTunes and his 'winter crop'.
The law-abidin' citizens of Georgia would appreciate it.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
Are you accusing me of breaking laws? Which ones?
If it weren't for the dogs, I dont b'leve in fences. *I'd rather see
the neighbor kids cutting through my yard so I know what they are
doing. *On the WY property, I took the fence down and told the
neighbors to feel free to cut across it to get to the snowmobile
trails. *I figure that if they go across my property, they'll look
after the place when I am not there.


You've never met LoonyTunes, JustHate & their ilk.
Best to keep them fenced in on their property, or fenced out of yours.


You mean, they're not wearing their ankle bracelet locators anymore?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry, why would I have one? Once again, acting like you know all
about me, you lying fat piece of ****.

[email protected] February 10th 09 01:36 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 
On Feb 9, 5:43*pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:58*pm, wrote:





On Feb 9, 2:53*pm, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


On Feb 9, 12:51 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 12:46 pm, wrote:


On Feb 9, 11:55 am, HK wrote:


Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:27 am, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
I am building a version of Glen-L "Importer" slide in truck
mounted
camper for my Nissan Frontier and I thought my experience with
building 4 boats would be helpful but the techniques are very
different. *The camper has 1"X2" framing with 3/16 ply on the
inside
and Aluminum sheet on the outside. *From a boat building
perspective,
structurally, this sounds like crap. *I am desperately trying to
suppress my normal tendency to think "Hey, I've got a better way"
because my wife wants it to look good so I am really trying to
follow
directions. *I am liberally applying epoxy to all joined surfaces
instead of simply using wood glue as per directions but the whole
process seems "wrong" still. *Unfortunately, the design is from
1972
before epoxy was available. *I would really prefer a design
similar to
boat building where strength is obtained from rounded shapes
covered
with glass and epoxy, sort of a stitch and glue camper. *I will
glass
some of the joints that I think need it. *I'd glass the whole
thing
but weight is an issue.
Will yours look like this?


http://www.belairshells.com/generic.tpl?PageName=11


Or are you building something embarrassing?


Harry, I am totally oblivious to things that would embarass most
people. *What I build might embarass my wife though. *No, the
camper
topper you show costs so little that I'd just go buy one. *What i
want
is a slide in cab-over hard shell camper like the ones made by
Lance.
I do not want one with pop up canvas because I will be in places
with
bears, wolves and panthers (Wyoming) and although I have camped
with
bears wandering round my tent (even wandering round me sleeping
outside my tent) I feel I have "been there, done that" and want the
peace of mind of hard sides.


Why not just buy one?


http://www.six-pac.com/fits.htm-Hidequotedtext-


- Show quoted text -


Because some people take pride in crafting something using their own
given skills. And unlike you, most people are skilled enough to do so.


I just wanted to make something else. *I figure that if this is
successful, my wife might give in to my plans to rebuild the old log
cabin on our WY property.


I thought that building the Tolman would convince my wife that I was
competent to make things but she does not like power boats. *So, now I
am doing the dog fence (fencing in nearly an acre) but she keeps
changing her mind about how it should look. *So, when we take the
camper to WY and are staying right next to the cabin, she will not be
able to doubt my ability to rebuild the cabin. *Of course, I'll
probably rebuild the cabin anyway regardless of what she wants (She
wants a "real" cabin with actual appliances, BORING.)


Too bad you couldn't take your fence building skills down to Atlanta and
enclose LoonyTunes and his 'winter crop'.
The law-abidin' citizens of Georgia would appreciate it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Are you accusing me of breaking laws? Which ones?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


No, he is just trying to get some attention..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And he's too chicken **** to answer!

Don White February 10th 09 02:16 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 

"John H" wrote in message
...


Don, was this thread too friggin' peaceful for you? Why not keep your
**** to yourself once in a while?

Frogwatch, I sure hope you can disregard some of this ****.


Save your 'marching orders' for your Drone Army. I answer to a higher
calling.



Don White February 10th 09 02:19 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 

wrote in message
...
On Feb 10, 8:03 am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:53:09 -0400, "Don White"





wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Feb 9, 12:51 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 12:46 pm, wrote:


On Feb 9, 11:55 am, HK wrote:


Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:27 am, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
I am building a version of Glen-L "Importer" slide in truck
mounted
camper for my Nissan Frontier and I thought my experience with
building 4 boats would be helpful but the techniques are very
different. The camper has 1"X2" framing with 3/16 ply on the
inside
and Aluminum sheet on the outside. From a boat building
perspective,
structurally, this sounds like crap. I am desperately trying
to
suppress my normal tendency to think "Hey, I've got a better
way"
because my wife wants it to look good so I am really trying to
follow
directions. I am liberally applying epoxy to all joined
surfaces
instead of simply using wood glue as per directions but the
whole
process seems "wrong" still. Unfortunately, the design is from
1972
before epoxy was available. I would really prefer a design
similar to
boat building where strength is obtained from rounded shapes
covered
with glass and epoxy, sort of a stitch and glue camper. I will
glass
some of the joints that I think need it. I'd glass the whole
thing
but weight is an issue.
Will yours look like this?


http://www.belairshells.com/generic.tpl?PageName=11


Or are you building something embarrassing?


Harry, I am totally oblivious to things that would embarass most
people. What I build might embarass my wife though. No, the
camper
topper you show costs so little that I'd just go buy one. What i
want
is a slide in cab-over hard shell camper like the ones made by
Lance.
I do not want one with pop up canvas because I will be in places
with
bears, wolves and panthers (Wyoming) and although I have camped
with
bears wandering round my tent (even wandering round me sleeping
outside my tent) I feel I have "been there, done that" and want
the
peace of mind of hard sides.


Why not just buy one?


http://www.six-pac.com/fits.htm-Hidequotedtext -


- Show quoted text -


Because some people take pride in crafting something using their own
given skills. And unlike you, most people are skilled enough to do
so.


I just wanted to make something else. I figure that if this is
successful, my wife might give in to my plans to rebuild the old log
cabin on our WY property.


I thought that building the Tolman would convince my wife that I was
competent to make things but she does not like power boats. So, now I
am doing the dog fence (fencing in nearly an acre) but she keeps
changing her mind about how it should look. So, when we take the
camper to WY and are staying right next to the cabin, she will not be
able to doubt my ability to rebuild the cabin. Of course, I'll
probably rebuild the cabin anyway regardless of what she wants (She
wants a "real" cabin with actual appliances, BORING.)


Too bad you couldn't take your fence building skills down to Atlanta and
enclose LoonyTunes and his 'winter crop'.
The law-abidin' citizens of Georgia would appreciate it.


Don, was this thread too friggin' peaceful for you? Why not keep your
**** to yourself once in a while?

Frogwatch, I sure hope you can disregard some of this ****.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry's taught his lover well.

***************************************

Didn't you hear your 'fearless leader'? Seems to be a lack of discipline
in the Drone Army ranks.



MMC February 10th 09 02:31 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I am building a version of Glen-L "Importer" slide in truck mounted
camper for my Nissan Frontier and I thought my experience with
building 4 boats would be helpful but the techniques are very
different. The camper has 1"X2" framing with 3/16 ply on the inside
and Aluminum sheet on the outside. From a boat building perspective,
structurally, this sounds like crap. I am desperately trying to
suppress my normal tendency to think "Hey, I've got a better way"
because my wife wants it to look good so I am really trying to follow
directions. I am liberally applying epoxy to all joined surfaces
instead of simply using wood glue as per directions but the whole
process seems "wrong" still. Unfortunately, the design is from 1972
before epoxy was available. I would really prefer a design similar to
boat building where strength is obtained from rounded shapes covered
with glass and epoxy, sort of a stitch and glue camper. I will glass
some of the joints that I think need it. I'd glass the whole thing
but weight is an issue.


Unlike a boat, hopefully your camper will never have to survive beating into
waves...



[email protected] February 10th 09 02:49 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 
On Feb 10, 9:19*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Feb 10, 8:03 am, John H wrote:





On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:53:09 -0400, "Don White"


wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
On Feb 9, 12:51 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 12:46 pm, wrote:


On Feb 9, 11:55 am, HK wrote:


Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:27 am, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
I am building a version of Glen-L "Importer" slide in truck
mounted
camper for my Nissan Frontier and I thought my experience with
building 4 boats would be helpful but the techniques are very
different. The camper has 1"X2" framing with 3/16 ply on the
inside
and Aluminum sheet on the outside. From a boat building
perspective,
structurally, this sounds like crap. I am desperately trying
to
suppress my normal tendency to think "Hey, I've got a better
way"
because my wife wants it to look good so I am really trying to
follow
directions. I am liberally applying epoxy to all joined
surfaces
instead of simply using wood glue as per directions but the
whole
process seems "wrong" still. Unfortunately, the design is from
1972
before epoxy was available. I would really prefer a design
similar to
boat building where strength is obtained from rounded shapes
covered
with glass and epoxy, sort of a stitch and glue camper. I will
glass
some of the joints that I think need it. I'd glass the whole
thing
but weight is an issue.
Will yours look like this?


http://www.belairshells.com/generic.tpl?PageName=11


Or are you building something embarrassing?


Harry, I am totally oblivious to things that would embarass most
people. What I build might embarass my wife though. No, the
camper
topper you show costs so little that I'd just go buy one. What i
want
is a slide in cab-over hard shell camper like the ones made by
Lance.
I do not want one with pop up canvas because I will be in places
with
bears, wolves and panthers (Wyoming) and although I have camped
with
bears wandering round my tent (even wandering round me sleeping
outside my tent) I feel I have "been there, done that" and want
the
peace of mind of hard sides.


Why not just buy one?


http://www.six-pac.com/fits.htm-Hidequotedtext-


- Show quoted text -


Because some people take pride in crafting something using their own
given skills. And unlike you, most people are skilled enough to do
so.


I just wanted to make something else. I figure that if this is
successful, my wife might give in to my plans to rebuild the old log
cabin on our WY property.


I thought that building the Tolman would convince my wife that I was
competent to make things but she does not like power boats. So, now I
am doing the dog fence (fencing in nearly an acre) but she keeps
changing her mind about how it should look. So, when we take the
camper to WY and are staying right next to the cabin, she will not be
able to doubt my ability to rebuild the cabin. Of course, I'll
probably rebuild the cabin anyway regardless of what she wants (She
wants a "real" cabin with actual appliances, BORING.)


Too bad you couldn't take your fence building skills down to Atlanta and
enclose LoonyTunes and his 'winter crop'.
The law-abidin' citizens of Georgia would appreciate it.


Don, was this thread too friggin' peaceful for you? Why not keep your
**** to yourself once in a while?


Frogwatch, I sure hope you can disregard some of this ****.- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


Harry's taught his lover well.

***************************************

Didn't you hear your 'fearless leader'? * *Seems to be a lack of discipline
in the Drone Army ranks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I know that because of your master/lover/clone Harry you don't
understand this concept, but I don't have a leader.

[email protected] February 10th 09 02:50 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 
On Feb 10, 9:16*am, "Don White" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

...



Don, was this thread too friggin' peaceful for you? Why not keep your
**** to yourself once in a while?


Frogwatch, I sure hope you can disregard some of this ****.


Save your 'marching orders' for your Drone Army. * *I answer to a higher
calling.


Yeah, your lover/master/clone Harry.

Don White February 10th 09 03:19 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 

wrote in message
...
I know that because of your master/lover/clone Harry you don't
understand this concept, but I don't have a leader.

************************************************** ***********


You should.................... you really should!



HK February 10th 09 03:28 PM

Boat building vs camper building
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
I know that because of your master/lover/clone Harry you don't
understand this concept, but I don't have a leader.

************************************************** ***********


You should.................... you really should!




What loogy needs...is a keeper. Someone to toss a slab'o'beef into his
cage every few days.


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