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Boat terminology question
What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? |
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"Jim Willemin" wrote in message 7.131... What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Proper nautical expressions do not include "floor", "wall" or "stairs". It's a deck, bulkhead or ladder. But, when it comes to decks, may as well throw "sole" into the mix. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. --Vic Hey, I'm not speaking to "the meals," just the pancakes! |
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:13:50 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Jim Willemin" wrote in message . 97.131... What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Proper nautical expressions do not include "floor", "wall" or "stairs". It's a deck, bulkhead or ladder. But, when it comes to decks, may as well throw "sole" into the mix. Squids - gotta have different names for everything. :) Sorry - I'm in that kind of mood this evening. :) -- "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Theodore Roosevelt. |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. -- Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people. |
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Jim Willemin wrote in
7.131: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Thanks to all who responded. I got a little confused thinking of open boats, but then I looked up 'floor' and discovered that it is 'that part of the bottom of a vessel on each side of the keelson which is most nearly horizontal'. So, strictly speaking, Tim is putting a new deck in his boat, but when I finish my skiff and stand up to cast, I'll be standing on the floor (since I'll be standing on the bottom of the vessel). I suppose things get a little murky when one has an open V-bottom craft with a flat deck inside to stand on, and even murkier when one has open slatwork to spread one's weight over the bottom... |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. I've eaten all three also. My vote goes to the Air Force, but the Navy folks in Norfolk put on the best Friday night seafood buffey in the entire world. Amen. |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:01:50 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote: Jim Willemin wrote in . 97.131: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Thanks to all who responded. I got a little confused thinking of open boats, but then I looked up 'floor' and discovered that it is 'that part of the bottom of a vessel on each side of the keelson which is most nearly horizontal'. So, strictly speaking, Tim is putting a new deck in his boat, but when I finish my skiff and stand up to cast, I'll be standing on the floor (since I'll be standing on the bottom of the vessel). I suppose things get a little murky when one has an open V-bottom craft with a flat deck inside to stand on, and even murkier when one has open slatwork to spread one's weight over the bottom... Don't know if it's murky. If you're standing on the hull, you're standing on the hull. If you're standing on slatwork, it's a slatdeck. Unless it's really gridwork. Then it's a griddeck. Just carry on from there. --Vic |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food. But I'm a picky eater too. The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old. --Vic |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:41:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: boat" was never used for Navy vessels Submarines are always boats, not ships. Possibly that got started when all the subs came from the " Electric Boat Company .", but I don't really know. Casady |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock wrote: Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food. But I'm a picky eater too. The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old. --Vic Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the people preparing it care. Not on a big ship. |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock wrote: Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food. But I'm a picky eater too. The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old. --Vic Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the people preparing it care. Not on a big ship. Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250. Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard. And I didn't say it tasted bad. It didn't taste. Unless you salted it. Then it tasted like salt. Sometimes it came pre-salted though. --Vic |
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On Feb 8, 5:58*pm, Jim Willemin wrote:
What is the difference between a floor and a deck? *Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? *I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? *Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? The interior flooring of a boat is usally called the Sole and usally the exterior is called deck. However, is it one of those items like rope, it's rope until it goes on a boat then it is called line. To see some great soles for your Catalina C-36 check out http://www.clrmarine.com/m4_view_ite...TT%20C36%20Org Also http://www.clrmarine.com/462.html?m4...ers%2FPlasTeak |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:01:50 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote: Thanks to all who responded. I got a little confused thinking of open boats, but then I looked up 'floor' and discovered that it is 'that part of the bottom of a vessel on each side of the keelson which is most nearly horizontal'. Close but not quite. The actual term in wooden boat construction is "floor timbers" which are transverse structural members, generally horizontal, and laid just above the keel. A picture is worth a thousand words: http://www.thewoodenboatschool.com/b...estoration.jpg |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic Submarines are boats. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock wrote: Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food. But I'm a picky eater too. The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old. --Vic Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the people preparing it care. Not on a big ship. Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250. Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard. And I didn't say it tasted bad. It didn't taste. Unless you salted it. Then it tasted like salt. Sometimes it came pre-salted though. --Vic One unit I was in had really great food. But the cook had been a professional chef and used lots of spices. I think it depended a lot on the base and if the commander was in to food. |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:41:14 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: boat" was never used for Navy vessels Submarines are always boats, not ships. Possibly that got started when all the subs came from the " Electric Boat Company .", but I don't really know. Casady According to my buddy who spent his navy time underwater there are only two kinds of vessels. (sub)Boats and targets. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock wrote: Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food. But I'm a picky eater too. The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old. --Vic I became addicted to Bug Juice. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock wrote: Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food. But I'm a picky eater too. The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old. --Vic Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the people preparing it care. Not on a big ship. Again you give away the fact that you know absolutely nothing of the military. You'd be best served to stay out of any discussion about the military. |
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: I became addicted to Bug Juice. Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among the food items introduced to me by the Navy. The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others. I left them behind when I left the Navy behind. The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine. Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth. Don't do the spit shine though. When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that meant one thing to me. No more milk until replenishment. And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while. Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my appetite for Kellogg's. Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted. I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. Might be because time is merciful. Maybe the Navy was. Same effect. I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight. All us kids hated it, so she gave up. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: I became addicted to Bug Juice. Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among the food items introduced to me by the Navy. The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others. I left them behind when I left the Navy behind. The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine. Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth. Don't do the spit shine though. When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that meant one thing to me. No more milk until replenishment. And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while. Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my appetite for Kellogg's. Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted. I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. Might be because time is merciful. Maybe the Navy was. Same effect. I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight. All us kids hated it, so she gave up. --Vic I used to like the powdered eggs. Pour enough ketchup on them and they were not bad. Ditto on the milk. A little 315' DE didn't store a lot of milk. Like you said, 3 or 4 days out and it was gone. We had an old Coke machine though. Not the kind that dispenses cans or bottles however. It mixed syrup with carbonated water into a cup. 5 cents per cup until it also ran out. That usually happened right after an underway replenishment or refueling when the Captain would order the corpsman to issue all involved a shot of bourbon to warm up. To make it last many would pour it into a cup of the syrup Coke mix. "Swiss Steak" about every other day. I never really knew why it was called Swiss steak. More like cooked grizzle. My mother tried the powdered milk thing also. There was a rebellion among us kids. Then she tried mixing it 50/50 with whole milk. Still didn't hack it. We finally made my father drink a big glass of the crap. Never had powdered milk again. Eisboch |
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On Feb 9, 7:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: I became addicted to Bug Juice. Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among the food items introduced to me by the Navy. The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others. I left them behind when I left the Navy behind. The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine. Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth. Don't do the spit shine though. When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that meant one thing to me. *No more milk until replenishment. And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while. Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my appetite for Kellogg's. Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted. I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. *Might be because time is merciful. *Maybe the Navy was. *Same effect. I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight. All us kids hated it, so she gave up. --Vic I used to like the powdered eggs. *Pour enough ketchup on them and they were not bad. Ditto on the milk. *A little 315' DE *didn't store a lot of milk. Like you said, 3 or 4 days out and it was gone. We had an old Coke machine though. *Not the kind that dispenses cans or bottles however. It mixed syrup with carbonated water into a cup. *5 cents per cup until it also ran out. That usually happened right after an underway replenishment or refueling when the Captain would order the corpsman to issue all involved a shot of bourbon to warm up. *To make it last many would pour it into a cup of the syrup Coke mix. "Swiss Steak" about every other day. *I never really knew why it was called Swiss steak. More like cooked grizzle. My mother tried the powdered milk thing also. *There was a rebellion among us kids. *Then she tried mixing it 50/50 with whole milk. Still didn't hack it. * We finally made my father drink a big glass of the crap. Never had powdered milk again. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I grew up with powdered milk.. Found whole milk weird when I moved out of the house and started drinking it on a regular basis.. We used to get up every morning and make a nice big half gallon for the day;) Warm tap water too...;) Don't know if I could take it now, of course now adays you don't really save any on it anyway... |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: I became addicted to Bug Juice. Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among the food items introduced to me by the Navy. The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others. I left them behind when I left the Navy behind. The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine. Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth. Don't do the spit shine though. When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that meant one thing to me. No more milk until replenishment. And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while. Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my appetite for Kellogg's. Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted. I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. Might be because time is merciful. Maybe the Navy was. Same effect. I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight. All us kids hated it, so she gave up. --Vic I used to like the powdered eggs. Pour enough ketchup on them and they were not bad. Ditto on the milk. A little 315' DE didn't store a lot of milk. Like you said, 3 or 4 days out and it was gone. We had an old Coke machine though. Not the kind that dispenses cans or bottles however. It mixed syrup with carbonated water into a cup. 5 cents per cup until it also ran out. That usually happened right after an underway replenishment or refueling when the Captain would order the corpsman to issue all involved a shot of bourbon to warm up. To make it last many would pour it into a cup of the syrup Coke mix. "Swiss Steak" about every other day. I never really knew why it was called Swiss steak. More like cooked grizzle. My mother tried the powdered milk thing also. There was a rebellion among us kids. Then she tried mixing it 50/50 with whole milk. Still didn't hack it. We finally made my father drink a big glass of the crap. Never had powdered milk again. Eisboch I don't recall my mother ever serving powdered milk. We did try powdered eggs...once. |
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:22 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: I used to like the powdered eggs. Pour enough ketchup on them and they were not bad. Love powdered eggs. You just can't explain the attraction to them for some reason. More guys I know that served during our era have said that to me more than once. Some didn't care for them admittedly, but most couldn't get enough. I also developed a taste for chipped beef on toast for some reason - in particular if they used bacon drippings for the sauce. Nothing like a hearty breakfast - pile of powered eggs, two servings of SOS. That is gormet man - gormet. -- "I have tried to know absolutely nothing about a great many things, and I have succeeded fairly well." Robert Benchley |
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"HK" wrote in message ... I don't recall my mother ever serving powdered milk. We did try powdered eggs...once. When a gallon of whole milk climbed up to about 80 cents a gallon, my mother tried to save by using the powdered junk. With three kids in the house, we went through quite a bit of milk. Eisboch |
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:22 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: I became addicted to Bug Juice. Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among the food items introduced to me by the Navy. The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others. I left them behind when I left the Navy behind. The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine. Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth. Don't do the spit shine though. When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that meant one thing to me. No more milk until replenishment. And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while. Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my appetite for Kellogg's. Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted. I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. Might be because time is merciful. Maybe the Navy was. Same effect. I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight. All us kids hated it, so she gave up. --Vic I used to like the powdered eggs. Pour enough ketchup on them and they were not bad. Ditto on the milk. A little 315' DE didn't store a lot of milk. Like you said, 3 or 4 days out and it was gone. We had an old Coke machine though. Not the kind that dispenses cans or bottles however. It mixed syrup with carbonated water into a cup. 5 cents per cup until it also ran out. That usually happened right after an underway replenishment or refueling when the Captain would order the corpsman to issue all involved a shot of bourbon to warm up. To make it last many would pour it into a cup of the syrup Coke mix. "Swiss Steak" about every other day. I never really knew why it was called Swiss steak. More like cooked grizzle. My mother tried the powdered milk thing also. There was a rebellion among us kids. Then she tried mixing it 50/50 with whole milk. Still didn't hack it. We finally made my father drink a big glass of the crap. Never had powdered milk again. Eisboch Vietnam was a year-long study in the eating of powdered eggs. Ketchup -- blech! Tobasco -- yumm. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... I don't recall my mother ever serving powdered milk. We did try powdered eggs...once. When a gallon of whole milk climbed up to about 80 cents a gallon, my mother tried to save by using the powdered junk. With three kids in the house, we went through quite a bit of milk. Eisboch I was the only kid in the house and not much of a milk drinker, so a quart lasted a week at home. Besides, in those days, in grammar school, a container of milk was served each day, along with two graham crackers, to every kid in public school. Whether they liked it or not. We kids who could pay a few pennies a day for the milk did so, and it was free of charge to kids who couldn't pay. I seem to recall a significant number of foods supplied at cost to the public schools back then through various farm subsidy programs. A complete hot lunch at junior high was only 20 or 25 cents. That included an appetizer of soup, salad or jello, a hot meal with some sort of beef, chicken or fish, two veggies and a dessert. The fish was always served on Fridays, naturally, and typically was fish sticks. Not bad, though. Still, a lot of kids brought their lunch to school. I wouldn't trade growing up then for growing up now. The world I grew up in was much better than the one we have today. Well, except for "Duck and Cover." |
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"John H" wrote in message ... Ketchup -- blech! Tobasco -- yumm. I never tried Tobasco on eggs until I met my father-in-law. He used to cover eggs with the stuff. I tried it, liked it and still use it, but not to the extent he used it. I recently bought some Tobasco sauce and mistakenly got the "Habanero" version. Whew! Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I don't recall my mother ever serving powdered milk. We did try powdered eggs...once. When a gallon of whole milk climbed up to about 80 cents a gallon, my mother tried to save by using the powdered junk. With three kids in the house, we went through quite a bit of milk. Eisboch I was the only kid in the house and not much of a milk drinker, so a quart lasted a week at home. Besides, in those days, in grammar school, a container of milk was served each day, along with two graham crackers, to every kid in public school. Whether they liked it or not. We kids who could pay a few pennies a day for the milk did so, and it was free of charge to kids who couldn't pay. I seem to recall a significant number of foods supplied at cost to the public schools back then through various farm subsidy programs. A complete hot lunch at junior high was only 20 or 25 cents. That included an appetizer of soup, salad or jello, a hot meal with some sort of beef, chicken or fish, two veggies and a dessert. The fish was always served on Fridays, naturally, and typically was fish sticks. Not bad, though. Still, a lot of kids brought their lunch to school. I wouldn't trade growing up then for growing up now. The world I grew up in was much better than the one we have today. Well, except for "Duck and Cover." I recall costs of school lunches as being about the same. 25 cents for a full meal and 3 cents for an extra milk. Go to a modern high school cafeteria now. It would blow you away. Several choices of hot meals or sandwiches, pizza, salad bars, and, in some towns, a McDonald's. Eisboch |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:17:12 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: I used to like the powdered eggs. Pour enough ketchup on them and they were not bad. Love powdered eggs. You just can't explain the attraction to them for some reason. More guys I know that served during our era have said that to me more than once. Some didn't care for them admittedly, but most couldn't get enough. I also developed a taste for chipped beef on toast for some reason - in particular if they used bacon drippings for the sauce. I've noticed how my taste and - and stomach tolerance - has changed quite a bit. Reminds me of when I was about 15 and doing some lawn chores for a couple of grandmas. They insisted on feeding me a breakfast of fried eggs, and they fried them in butter. I had a hard time being polite and gulping them down. Thought they were gross. That's because I was raised on eggs fried in bacon fat, and had never had butter-fried. Now I'm opposite, and only like them butter-fried. Favorite meal used to be a rolled pork loin. With asparagus/spuds. When I got in my thirties I couldn't take the pork loin. Made my stomach queasy. Ever get sick pigging out on something and never want it again? When I was a kid I made a bunch of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches - my favorite food then - and got sick. It still turns my stomach if I get a hint of peanut butter in my jelly. But I still like each so long as they're not combined. Sort of the same happened when I ate a jar of dill pickles. Couldn't touch a dill pickle for about 15 years. Got over that aversion though. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... Ever get sick pigging out on something and never want it again? Recent bad experience. I bought one of those small cooked chickens at the supermarket a couple of weeks ago. I ate approx half for lunch, then put the rest in the refrigerator. The next day, in the evening, I had a small slice from the remainder. Two hours later I was sicker than I think I've ever been and spent the night visiting the bathroom every 15 minutes. Sure case of food poisoning. Anyone who has never experienced a case of severe food poisoning can't understand how bad it is. I have always been know for having the proverbial "cast iron stomach" and very little will make me sick. I think I can count on my fingers the number of times I've had to puke in my life. But this experience made up for it. I thought I bought the farm for a while. Moral: Never, ever buy one of those pre-cooked chickens again. Eisboch |
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:50:37 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . Ketchup -- blech! Tobasco -- yumm. I never tried Tobasco on eggs until I met my father-in-law. He used to cover eggs with the stuff. I tried it, liked it and still use it, but not to the extent he used it. I recently bought some Tobasco sauce and mistakenly got the "Habanero" version. Whew! A buddy from Tennessee fed me fried eggs with sliced tomatoes once. Good, but not enough to change my habits. Eggs are best with bacon or pork sausage, and hash browns. Pancakes if no hash browns available. IMO of course. I don't tell nobody what to eat. One of my kids had to put hot sauce on everything. Even celery. That's over though. Acid reflux or something, so the doc told him to lay off and he has. --Vic |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: I became addicted to Bug Juice. Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among the food items introduced to me by the Navy. The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others. I left them behind when I left the Navy behind. The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine. Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth. Don't do the spit shine though. When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that meant one thing to me. No more milk until replenishment. And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while. Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my appetite for Kellogg's. Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted. I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. Might be because time is merciful. Maybe the Navy was. Same effect. I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight. All us kids hated it, so she gave up. --Vic I used to like the powdered eggs. Pour enough ketchup on them and they were not bad. Ditto on the milk. A little 315' DE didn't store a lot of milk. Like you said, 3 or 4 days out and it was gone. We had an old Coke machine though. Not the kind that dispenses cans or bottles however. It mixed syrup with carbonated water into a cup. 5 cents per cup until it also ran out. That usually happened right after an underway replenishment or refueling when the Captain would order the corpsman to issue all involved a shot of bourbon to warm up. To make it last many would pour it into a cup of the syrup Coke mix. "Swiss Steak" about every other day. I never really knew why it was called Swiss steak. More like cooked grizzle. My mother tried the powdered milk thing also. There was a rebellion among us kids. Then she tried mixing it 50/50 with whole milk. Still didn't hack it. We finally made my father drink a big glass of the crap. Never had powdered milk again. Eisboch I don't recall my mother ever serving powdered milk. We did try powdered eggs...once. I can remember our mother trying it as an economy measure. In the mid fifties, the newly opened St. Lawrence Seaway really cut into dads working hours as a longshoreman in Halifax. Thank God the thing froze over in the winter. I believe the powered milk came in a blue box and we all hated it...didn't taste right and there always seemed to be lumps in it. No one around here had a blender in those days. |
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:09:46 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: I have always been know for having the proverbial "cast iron stomach" and very little will make me sick. I think I can count on my fingers the number of times I've had to puke in my life. But this experience made up for it. I thought I bought the farm for a while. Moral: Never, ever buy one of those pre-cooked chickens again. Seems there's degrees of food poisoning. Never had it bad. My rule is to eat nearly all home-cooked, and don't eat the chicken at a wedding. Used to buy Browns "day-old" cold fried chicken to put in the cooler for a days fishing. Got sick on it about the 10th time I bought it. Chicken seems to cause more than it's share of FP. --Vic |
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:45:25 -0800 (PST), tim
wrote: However, is it one of those items like rope, it's rope until it goes on a boat then it is called line. Yes. When I was a kid the summer camp had some X-boats. They had lengths of line sown to the edges of the sails, instead of slides or whatever. These were called " Boltropes ". There were tunnels for them in the mast and boom. Casady |
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:50:37 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . Ketchup -- blech! Tobasco -- yumm. I never tried Tobasco on eggs until I met my father-in-law. He used to cover eggs with the stuff. I tried it, liked it and still use it, but not to the extent he used it. I recently bought some Tobasco sauce and mistakenly got the "Habanero" version. Whew! Eisboch Do try the Chipotle version. It is superb. |
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