Boat terminology question
 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:01:50 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

Jim Willemin wrote in
. 97.131:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in
the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the
'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but
does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a
deckhouse have a floor or a deck?


Thanks to all who responded. I got a little confused thinking of open
boats, but then I looked up 'floor' and discovered that it is 'that part of
the bottom of a vessel on each side of the keelson which is most nearly
horizontal'. So, strictly speaking, Tim is putting a new deck in his
boat, but when I finish my skiff and stand up to cast, I'll be standing on
the floor (since I'll be standing on the bottom of the vessel). I suppose
things get a little murky when one has an open V-bottom craft with a flat
deck inside to stand on, and even murkier when one has open slatwork to
spread one's weight over the bottom...

Don't know if it's murky. If you're standing on the hull, you're
standing on the hull. If you're standing on slatwork, it's a
slatdeck. Unless it's really gridwork. Then it's a griddeck.
Just carry on from there.

--Vic

Boat terminology question
 

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:



Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic

Boat terminology question
 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:41:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

boat" was never used for Navy vessels

Submarines are always boats, not ships. Possibly that got started when
all the subs came from the " Electric Boat Company .", but I don't
really know.

Casady

Boat terminology question
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.

Boat terminology question
 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.


Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250.
Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard.
And I didn't say it tasted bad.
It didn't taste. Unless you salted it.
Then it tasted like salt.
Sometimes it came pre-salted though.

--Vic

Boat terminology question
 

On Feb 8, 5:58*pm, Jim Willemin wrote:
What is the difference between a floor and a deck? *Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? *I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? *Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

The interior flooring of a boat is usally called the Sole and usally
the exterior is called deck.
However, is it one of those items like rope, it's rope until it goes
on a boat then it is called line.
To see some great soles for your Catalina C-36 check out
http://www.clrmarine.com/m4_view_ite...TT%20C36%20Org

Also http://www.clrmarine.com/462.html?m4...ers%2FPlasTeak

Boat terminology question
 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:01:50 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

Thanks to all who responded. I got a little confused thinking of open
boats, but then I looked up 'floor' and discovered that it is 'that part of
the bottom of a vessel on each side of the keelson which is most nearly
horizontal'.

Close but not quite. The actual term in wooden boat construction is
"floor timbers" which are transverse structural members, generally
horizontal, and laid just above the keel.

A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://www.thewoodenboatschool.com/b...estoration.jpg

Boat terminology question
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

--Vic

Submarines are boats.

Boat terminology question
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.


Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250.
Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard.
And I didn't say it tasted bad.
It didn't taste. Unless you salted it.
Then it tasted like salt.
Sometimes it came pre-salted though.

--Vic


One unit I was in had really great food. But the cook had been a
professional chef and used lots of spices. I think it depended a lot on the
base and if the commander was in to food.

Boat terminology question
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:41:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

boat" was never used for Navy vessels

Submarines are always boats, not ships. Possibly that got started when
all the subs came from the " Electric Boat Company .", but I don't
really know.

Casady

According to my buddy who spent his navy time underwater there are only two
kinds of vessels. (sub)Boats and targets.