|
Small business health insurance
My thoughts on the concept of health insurance:
I really do not think the health probs of my employees is my business except I want them to get work done. I got no problem if thye get sick and take weeks off as long as they make it up or work at night or weekends or any other time. There are timetables for stuff that have to be met though. I do offer to pay the premium on an 80/20 policy ($1000 deductible) from IEEE but only one guy takes me up on that, the rest get their insurance through spouses. Frankly, I do not think their health insurance is my business at all because I cannot get a policy that will meet the needs of every employee. They are more likely to get a policy that meets their needs on their own, I also cannot get any better rate for them than they can get themselves. Consequently, having me buy a standard policy for them simply adds cost and gives them a policy that is less beneficial than they could get for less on their own. |
Small business health insurance
On Feb 4, 2:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:38:26 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: My thoughts on the concept of health insurance: I really do not think the health probs of my employees is my business except I want them to get work done. I got no problem if thye get sick and take weeks off as long as they make it up or work at night or weekends or any other time. There are timetables for stuff that have to be met though. I do offer to pay the premium on an 80/20 policy ($1000 deductible) from IEEE but only one guy takes me up on that, the rest get their insurance through spouses. Frankly, I do not think their health insurance is my business at all because I cannot get a policy that will meet the needs of every employee. They are more likely to get a policy that meets their needs on their own, I also cannot get any better rate for them than they can get themselves. Consequently, having me buy a standard policy for them simply adds cost and gives them a policy that is less beneficial than they could get for less on their own. So, reimburse them, dickhead. Reimburse who? The people who do not buy their own health insurance? I see no reason to do that.The guy who does buy his own policy I do reimburse. |
Small business health insurance
On Feb 4, 3:15*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 4, 2:54 pm, wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:38:26 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: My thoughts on the concept of health insurance: I really do not think the health probs of my employees is my business except I want them to get work done. *I got no problem if thye get sick and take weeks off as long as they make it up or work at night or weekends or any other time. *There are timetables for stuff that have to be met though. I do offer to pay the premium on an 80/20 policy ($1000 deductible) from IEEE but only one guy takes me up on that, the rest get their insurance through spouses. Frankly, I do not think their health insurance is my business at all because I cannot get a policy that will meet the needs of every employee. *They are more likely to get a policy that meets their needs on their own, *I also cannot get any better rate for them than they can get themselves. *Consequently, having me buy a standard policy for them simply adds cost and gives them a policy that is less beneficial than they could get for less on their own. So, reimburse them, dickhead. Reimburse who? *The people who do not buy their own health insurance? I see no reason to do that.The guy who does buy his own policy I do reimburse.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Frog, salty isn't actually trying to provide a solution to a problem. He's just here to try and take Harry and slammer's trophies away for the person who can post the most vulgar low life posts complete with childish name calling. |
Small business health insurance
|
Small business health insurance
Frogwatch wrote:
My thoughts on the concept of health insurance: I really do not think the health probs of my employees is my business except I want them to get work done. I got no problem if thye get sick and take weeks off as long as they make it up or work at night or weekends or any other time. There are timetables for stuff that have to be met though. I do offer to pay the premium on an 80/20 policy ($1000 deductible) from IEEE but only one guy takes me up on that, the rest get their insurance through spouses. Frankly, I do not think their health insurance is my business at all because I cannot get a policy that will meet the needs of every employee. They are more likely to get a policy that meets their needs on their own, I also cannot get any better rate for them than they can get themselves. Consequently, having me buy a standard policy for them simply adds cost and gives them a policy that is less beneficial than they could get for less on their own. I offer two plans through Aetna. The standard plan that most people have and a "catastrophic" plan that has a $10,000 deductible. Only two are on Plan B. The rest opt for the standard plan. I pay 50% of their premium in either case. 100% dental, LTD, and a $15K life insurance policy. Not bad for a small company. Premiums will be up nearly 15% this year. |
Small business health insurance
|
Small business health insurance
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:38:26 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: My thoughts on the concept of health insurance: I really do not think the health probs of my employees is my business except I want them to get work done. I got no problem if thye get sick and take weeks off as long as they make it up or work at night or weekends or any other time. There are timetables for stuff that have to be met though. I do offer to pay the premium on an 80/20 policy ($1000 deductible) from IEEE but only one guy takes me up on that, the rest get their insurance through spouses. Frankly, I do not think their health insurance is my business at all because I cannot get a policy that will meet the needs of every employee. They are more likely to get a policy that meets their needs on their own, I also cannot get any better rate for them than they can get themselves. Consequently, having me buy a standard policy for them simply adds cost and gives them a policy that is less beneficial than they could get for less on their own. There is no way an individual policy could provide the coverage at the same cost as a group policy, no matter the number of employees. I've been tracking this for close to 20 years and have to deal with it at the end of each year. Your approach to your employees is short-sighted, akin to oxen tilling your fields. You must have easily replaceable employees who you don't care about personally. Not a surprise given your political views. |
Small business health insurance
"D K" wrote in message ... Frogwatch wrote: My thoughts on the concept of health insurance: I really do not think the health probs of my employees is my business except I want them to get work done. I got no problem if thye get sick and take weeks off as long as they make it up or work at night or weekends or any other time. There are timetables for stuff that have to be met though. I do offer to pay the premium on an 80/20 policy ($1000 deductible) from IEEE but only one guy takes me up on that, the rest get their insurance through spouses. Frankly, I do not think their health insurance is my business at all because I cannot get a policy that will meet the needs of every employee. They are more likely to get a policy that meets their needs on their own, I also cannot get any better rate for them than they can get themselves. Consequently, having me buy a standard policy for them simply adds cost and gives them a policy that is less beneficial than they could get for less on their own. I offer two plans through Aetna. The standard plan that most people have and a "catastrophic" plan that has a $10,000 deductible. Only two are on Plan B. The rest opt for the standard plan. I pay 50% of their premium in either case. 100% dental, LTD, and a $15K life insurance policy. Not bad for a small company. Premiums will be up nearly 15% this year. I haven't stayed current with the insurance programs here in MA, but when I was active in the company we couldn't have split plans. As a small business, we couldn't have a major medical (catastrophic) plan *and* a HMO type plan. In fact, we couldn't have more than one health insurance provider. MA law allowed the insurance companies to require 100% employee participation in a single plan, (Harvard, Tuffs, Blue Cross, etc.) and the only exception was for employees that were covered by their spouses plan. This was (and maybe still is) a significant problem for a small business, and often made the health insurance provider a major consideration for a potential new employee, rather than the job responsibilities, pay and benefits. Their current family doctor may not have been a participant in the particular program the company was enrolled in and therefore would have to change doctors in order to accept employment. This is my biggest beef with having a business also being a health care administrator. My other beef is the demise of major medical, catastrophic coverage. I don't think it is available in MA unless the company is large enough to self-insure. The popularity of HMOs and PTOs whereby a small co-pay is all that is required for a doctor office visit is a contributing cause of the health care crisis we have and the blame for that is squarely on us, the consumer. We want cheap, and we got expensive. It would be far better to have insurance for a major illness or injury and have to pay for a doctor's visit to confirm that little Johnny indeed, has a cold. I've written about this before. My company paid 75% of each employee's health insurance premium under a Blue Cross HMO plan. At one point I did an analysis that indicated it would be less expensive to pay 100% of the cost for a Major Medical type plan, then reimburse every employee for their non-emergency, regular doctor visits for them and their kids for check-ups and colds. Of course, this was not allowed. Eisboch |
Small business health insurance
"jps" wrote in message ... Hey, if the employee is on his wife's policy, it's an easy way to pick up savings and burden someone else's business. God forbid the wife loses her job or the company makes her pay for her spouse and kids. Froggie will find a new employee without health problems or one with a sugar mama who comes with insurance. Not giving a crap about your employees health isn't scummy like failing to pay taxes or blow jobs. Business (other than health insurance companies) should not be in the health insurance business, either as a provider or an administrator of a group plan. Period. They are forced to be under the current system in order to be competitive in terms of benefits. I designed and built thin film vacuum deposition systems for optics. What do I know about current health insurance programs, or what is best for individuals and their families? Very little, yet I was forced to choose and employ people just to administer the program. I think people should be able to choose their own plan and coverage, depending on their individual needs. The cost of premiums for individual plans should be part of the employee's compensation package. Eisboch |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:50 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com