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HK January 26th 09 04:04 AM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
Obama’s Order Is Likely to Tighten Auto Standards
By JOHN M. BRODER and PETER BAKER
NYT

WASHINGTON — President Obama will direct federal regulators on Monday to
move swiftly on an application by California and 13 other states to set
strict automobile emission and fuel efficiency standards, two
administration officials said Sunday.

The directive makes good on an Obama campaign pledge and signifies a
sharp reversal of Bush administration policy. Granting California and
the other states the right to regulate tailpipe emissions would be one
of the most emphatic actions Mr. Obama could take to quickly put his
stamp on environmental policy.

Mr. Obama’s presidential memorandum will order the Environmental
Protection Agency to reconsider the Bush administration’s past rejection
of the California application. While it stops short of flatly ordering
the Bush decision reversed, the agency’s regulators are now widely
expected to do so after completing a formal review process.

Once they act, automobile manufacturers will quickly have to retool to
begin producing and selling cars and trucks that get higher mileage than
the national standard, and on a faster phase-in schedule. The auto
companies have lobbied hard against the regulations and challenged them
in court.

Mr. Obama will use the announcement to bolster the impression of a sharp
break from the Bush era on all fronts, following his decisions last week
to close the detention facility at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba; tighten limits
on interrogation tactics by Central Intelligence Agency officers; order
plans to withdraw combat forces from Iraq; and reverse President George
W. Bush’s financing restrictions on groups that promote or provide
abortion overseas, administration officials said.

Beyond acting on the California emissions law, officials said, Mr. Obama
will direct the Transportation Department to quickly finalize interim
nationwide regulations requiring the automobile industry to increase
fuel efficiency standards to comply with a 2007 law, rules that the Bush
administration decided at the last minute not to issue.

To avoid losing another year, Mr. Obama will order temporary regulations
to be completed by March so automakers have enough time to retool for
vehicles sold in 2011. Final standards for later years will be
determined by a separate process that under Mr. Obama’s order must take
into consideration legal, scientific and technological factors.

He will also order federal departments and agencies to find new ways to
save energy and be more environmentally friendly. And he will highlight
the elements in his $825 billion economic stimulus plan intended to
create jobs around renewable energy.

The announcements, to be made in the East Room, will begin a week of
efforts to get the stimulus plan through Congress. The White House hopes
the Senate will confirm Timothy F. Geithner as Treasury secretary on
Monday, and Mr. Obama plans to travel to Capitol Hill on Tuesday to meet
with both Senate and House Republican caucuses and lobby for his
stimulus package. Mr. Obama’s aides expect the House to vote on its plan
on Wednesday.
- - -

So far, Obama is doing very well on this liberal's agenda.

Frog Britches January 26th 09 04:32 AM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
HK wrote:
Obama’s Order Is Likely to Tighten Auto Standards
By JOHN M. BRODER and PETER BAKER
NYT

WASHINGTON — President Obama will direct federal regulators on Monday to
move swiftly on an application by California and 13 other states to set
strict automobile emission and fuel efficiency standards, two
administration officials said Sunday.

The directive makes good on an Obama campaign pledge and signifies a
sharp reversal of Bush administration policy. Granting California and
the other states the right to regulate tailpipe emissions would be one
of the most emphatic actions Mr. Obama could take to quickly put his
stamp on environmental policy.

Mr. Obama’s presidential memorandum will order the Environmental
Protection Agency to reconsider the Bush administration’s past rejection
of the California application. While it stops short of flatly ordering
the Bush decision reversed, the agency’s regulators are now widely
expected to do so after completing a formal review process.

Once they act, automobile manufacturers will quickly have to retool to
begin producing and selling cars and trucks that get higher mileage than
the national standard, and on a faster phase-in schedule. The auto
companies have lobbied hard against the regulations and challenged them
in court.

Mr. Obama will use the announcement to bolster the impression of a sharp
break from the Bush era on all fronts, following his decisions last week
to close the detention facility at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba; tighten limits
on interrogation tactics by Central Intelligence Agency officers; order
plans to withdraw combat forces from Iraq; and reverse President George
W. Bush’s financing restrictions on groups that promote or provide
abortion overseas, administration officials said.

Beyond acting on the California emissions law, officials said, Mr. Obama
will direct the Transportation Department to quickly finalize interim
nationwide regulations requiring the automobile industry to increase
fuel efficiency standards to comply with a 2007 law, rules that the Bush
administration decided at the last minute not to issue.

To avoid losing another year, Mr. Obama will order temporary regulations
to be completed by March so automakers have enough time to retool for
vehicles sold in 2011. Final standards for later years will be
determined by a separate process that under Mr. Obama’s order must take
into consideration legal, scientific and technological factors.

He will also order federal departments and agencies to find new ways to
save energy and be more environmentally friendly. And he will highlight
the elements in his $825 billion economic stimulus plan intended to
create jobs around renewable energy.

The announcements, to be made in the East Room, will begin a week of
efforts to get the stimulus plan through Congress. The White House hopes
the Senate will confirm Timothy F. Geithner as Treasury secretary on
Monday, and Mr. Obama plans to travel to Capitol Hill on Tuesday to meet
with both Senate and House Republican caucuses and lobby for his
stimulus package. Mr. Obama’s aides expect the House to vote on its plan
on Wednesday.
- - -

So far, Obama is doing very well on this liberal's agenda.

He needs to listen to reason and science. Just telling the Industry to
give pie in the sky is idiotic. Engines already are anemic. The Ethanol
junk cost us money, mileage, and extra maintenance. Of course if you
don't drive much and trade every couple of years, you have the money to
not care.
I won't be buying California crazies demanded engine ve hick les.
Have you smelled urea? They are going to mandate buying the not
inexpensive stuff, to be injected into Diesels. That is supposed to
lower their emissions. Diesels are getting to the point that they won't
be viable power plants for the road. Gas engines certainly can't fill
the bill either. Caterpillar is getting out of the road engine diesel
engine business because of these crazies. Of course their ultimate goal
is to force everyone to ride bikes. They have seen too many travel
photos of Orientals carrying half the family on one or a two hundred
pounds of produce. They are already responsible for vehicles so high
priced that People are putting off buying one. Have you tried to get a
family of four into the shoe boxes they are designing by edict in the
corner coffee houses, in California? How much have you saved from their
expensive pug ugly 2 1/2 mph bumpers?

thunder January 26th 09 04:54 AM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:32 -0500, Frog Britches wrote:


Of course their ultimate goal is to
force everyone to ride bikes.


Great idea! With the improved air quality, the exercise will improve our
cardio-vascular systems and fight the nation's obesity problem, with the
added advantage of cutting the cost of our new national health care
system. Damn, Obama is truly a forward thinking President.

BAR[_3_] January 26th 09 11:53 AM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
HK wrote:
Obama’s Order Is Likely to Tighten Auto Standards
By JOHN M. BRODER and PETER BAKER
NYT

WASHINGTON — President Obama will direct federal regulators on Monday to
move swiftly on an application by California and 13 other states to set
strict automobile emission and fuel efficiency standards, two
administration officials said Sunday.


How is this going to help the guy working the line at the GM, Ford and
Chrysler factory?

BAR[_3_] January 26th 09 11:55 AM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:32 -0500, Frog Britches wrote:


Of course their ultimate goal is to
force everyone to ride bikes.


Great idea! With the improved air quality, the exercise will improve our
cardio-vascular systems and fight the nation's obesity problem, with the
added advantage of cutting the cost of our new national health care
system. Damn, Obama is truly a forward thinking President.


Too bad you can't see the real reason. It is about control. Controlling
the ability of the population to freely move about the country.

HK January 26th 09 12:04 PM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:32 -0500, Frog Britches wrote:


Of course their ultimate goal is to
force everyone to ride bikes.


Great idea! With the improved air quality, the exercise will improve
our cardio-vascular systems and fight the nation's obesity problem,
with the added advantage of cutting the cost of our new national
health care system. Damn, Obama is truly a forward thinking President.


Too bad you can't see the real reason. It is about control. Controlling
the ability of the population to freely move about the country.



snerk What an idiot you are.

BAR[_3_] January 26th 09 12:14 PM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:32 -0500, Frog Britches wrote:


Of course their ultimate goal is to
force everyone to ride bikes.

Great idea! With the improved air quality, the exercise will improve
our cardio-vascular systems and fight the nation's obesity problem,
with the added advantage of cutting the cost of our new national
health care system. Damn, Obama is truly a forward thinking President.


Too bad you can't see the real reason. It is about control.
Controlling the ability of the population to freely move about the
country.



snerk What an idiot you are.


Care to make a wager one this Harry?


HK January 26th 09 12:18 PM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:32 -0500, Frog Britches wrote:


Of course their ultimate goal is to
force everyone to ride bikes.

Great idea! With the improved air quality, the exercise will
improve our cardio-vascular systems and fight the nation's obesity
problem, with the added advantage of cutting the cost of our new
national health care system. Damn, Obama is truly a forward
thinking President.

Too bad you can't see the real reason. It is about control.
Controlling the ability of the population to freely move about the
country.



snerk What an idiot you are.


Care to make a wager one this Harry?



Please cite some non-lunatic sources that prove the Obama administration
is planning to restrict "the ability of the population to freely move
about the country."


BAR[_3_] January 26th 09 12:28 PM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:32 -0500, Frog Britches wrote:


Of course their ultimate goal is to
force everyone to ride bikes.

Great idea! With the improved air quality, the exercise will
improve our cardio-vascular systems and fight the nation's obesity
problem, with the added advantage of cutting the cost of our new
national health care system. Damn, Obama is truly a forward
thinking President.

Too bad you can't see the real reason. It is about control.
Controlling the ability of the population to freely move about the
country.


snerk What an idiot you are.


Care to make a wager one this Harry?



Please cite some non-lunatic sources that prove the Obama administration
is planning to restrict "the ability of the population to freely move
about the country."


Give it some thought Harry. More than your usual cursory thought.

How do you control a population?

HK January 26th 09 12:34 PM

Obama Revisits Auto Pollution Standards
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:32 -0500, Frog Britches wrote:


Of course their ultimate goal is to
force everyone to ride bikes.

Great idea! With the improved air quality, the exercise will
improve our cardio-vascular systems and fight the nation's obesity
problem, with the added advantage of cutting the cost of our new
national health care system. Damn, Obama is truly a forward
thinking President.

Too bad you can't see the real reason. It is about control.
Controlling the ability of the population to freely move about the
country.


snerk What an idiot you are.

Care to make a wager one this Harry?



Please cite some non-lunatic sources that prove the Obama
administration is planning to restrict "the ability of the population
to freely move about the country."


Give it some thought Harry. More than your usual cursory thought.

How do you control a population?



In your right-wing kind of world?

With cattle prods and concentration camps.


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