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"Boater" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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Your comments are typical of those who neither did well nor go far in
formal education.

Education is a must. Degrees are very desirable. Degrees aren't a
problem.
People who judge their value or the value of others simply by the type or
number of degrees he/she holds is the problem.

Eisboch


I make my judgments here based upon the contents of the posts. JustWait is
a parrot of the uninformed right-wing Flatland. The conclusions he jumps
to wouldn't allow him to clear an expansion crack in a concrete sidewalk.

There are plenty of idiots with advanced degrees...such as the current
occupant of the White House.

Let me guess, GW Bush's Yale degree is a BA mor MBA? LOL.

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BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:38:49 -0500, Boater wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:57:13 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:33:45 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:12 -0600, thunder

wrote:

This time around, I believe most of the moneys will be to
private sector employers. When FDR started the WPA, he was on
new ground. Obama has the advantage of 70 years of hindsight.
Hopefully, it will work out.
Beware - remember The Big Dig. :)
Indeed, work at the Big Dig was performed by private-sector
contractors, under the supervision of Bechtel Corporation and
Parsons Brinckerhoff.

Other large corporate managers and contractors included Jay
Cashman, Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini
Corporation, Peter Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and the
Slattery division of Skanska USA.
All under the Supervision of the Massachuetts Executive Office of
Transportation and Public Works, Massachusetts Highway Department,
Massachuetta Turnpike Authority, Boston Redevelopment Authority,
Boston Inspectional Services, Massachuetts Bay Transportation
Authority, Public Works and the Federal Department of Transportation.
Great job.
So, the corporations ripped off the taxpayers, and the governmental
overseers were not good enough to prevent it. I agree.
More like both of them ripped off the taxpayer - the featherbedding
and employment and pay considerations imposed on the corporations were
onerous and extreme.

Well, then...there is no difference between the private and public
sector.

And I would suggest that if the government had stayed out of it, it
would have come in under budget and on time.

Private industry thrives on performance bonuses.


Like wall street....

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"hk" wrote in message
m...
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...n_Portrait.flv

Obama wants to send the blacks out of the country? That was the viewpoint
of Lincoln. He said he would not free the slaves if it preserved the union,
he would free the slaves if it preserved the union, He would free some and
keep others slaves if it saved the union. He was a lot like Obama in one
bad way. He was all for big Federal control.

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On Jan 18, 10:57*am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 18, 10:51 am, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...action=view&cu...
Parallels? What parallels.
Perhaps if you had stayed in school a little longer...
I went to Yale and graduate with a BA.
I doubt you were graduated from high school.
I got a degree from Yale just like you Harry.- Hide quoted text -

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Most of us can say that, I have a Yale degree just like Harry, I have
a Lobsta' boat, just like Harry.. Whew, I am a lucky man...

I doubt you got past the 8th grade.- Hide quoted text -

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Now what year was it Harry that you graduated from Yale? You've
stated you were there with George W. Bush. Do you remember Lanny
Davis who was there in the same era?

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On Jan 18, 2:46*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:54:24 -0500, BAR wrote:

This highway work should have been occurring for the last 40 years due
to it being funded by federal gasoline and diesel taxes.

Yup, there's been lots of infrastructure neglected. *Hopefully, this
stimulus package will kill two birds, get the economy moving again, and
fix our crumbling bridges, and roads.

This stimulus package is nothing but a power grab. The Congress should be
strung up and beaten with a stick until the funds from the gasoline and
diesel taxes are actually spent on the roads instead of redirected into
the general fund.

The stimulus package is not going to get the economy moving again. You
could send everyone a check for $1000 and it wouldn't do anything to get
the economy moving again.

We need a long term solution, something that is going to give everyone
long term confidence that the economy is going to improve. Eliminate
corporate taxes, reduce capital gains taxes and cut personal income taxes
in half but, make sure that everyone who earns income pays taxes. No
individual gets a free ride on taxes. This will get the economy moving
again. The people will have confidence that they will have more money to
spend themselves. Businesses will have more money to spend on capital
equipment and the ability to hire more people. Investors will be
encouraged to move their money into ventures that may produce greater
returns.

The government is the last last place to turn to get the economy moving
due to the fact that they haven't got the foggiest idea of what to invest
in or how to spend money to gain the greatest impact due to the
professional politicians who control the purse strings.

You're as bad as Justhate... always looking to weasel out of paying your
fair share of taxes.
Who's supposed to pay for Bushs' adventures in the Middle East?- Hide quoted text -

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How much in US taxes do you pay, Donnie Boy?

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On Jan 18, 3:37*pm, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
...

Your comments are typical of those who neither did well nor go far in
formal education.

Education is a must. *Degrees are very desirable. *Degrees aren't a
problem.
People who judge their value or the value of others simply by the type
or number of degrees he/she holds is the problem.

Eisboch

I make my judgments here based upon the contents of the posts. JustWait
is a parrot of the uninformed right-wing Flatland. The conclusions he
jumps to wouldn't allow him to clear an expansion crack in a concrete
sidewalk.

There are plenty of idiots with advanced degrees...such as the current
occupant of the White House.

When you were at Yale with him, did you ever drink a beer with him?
Just curious, you know.

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hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:38:49 -0500, Boater wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:57:13 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:33:45 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:12 -0600, thunder

wrote:

This time around, I believe most of the moneys will be to
private sector employers. When FDR started the WPA, he was on
new ground. Obama has the advantage of 70 years of
hindsight. Hopefully, it will work out.
Beware - remember The Big Dig. :)
Indeed, work at the Big Dig was performed by private-sector
contractors, under the supervision of Bechtel Corporation and
Parsons Brinckerhoff.

Other large corporate managers and contractors included Jay
Cashman, Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini
Corporation, Peter Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and
the Slattery division of Skanska USA.
All under the Supervision of the Massachuetts Executive Office of
Transportation and Public Works, Massachusetts Highway Department,
Massachuetta Turnpike Authority, Boston Redevelopment Authority,
Boston Inspectional Services, Massachuetts Bay Transportation
Authority, Public Works and the Federal Department of
Transportation.
Great job.
So, the corporations ripped off the taxpayers, and the
governmental overseers were not good enough to prevent it. I agree.
More like both of them ripped off the taxpayer - the featherbedding
and employment and pay considerations imposed on the corporations were
onerous and extreme.

Well, then...there is no difference between the private and public
sector.

And I would suggest that if the government had stayed out of it, it
would have come in under budget and on time.

Private industry thrives on performance bonuses.


Like wall street....

We know union members abhor performance bonuses, it screws up next years
contract negotiations.

Some interesting parallels
 

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:38:49 -0500, Boater wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:57:13 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:33:45 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:12 -0600, thunder

wrote:

This time around, I believe most of the moneys will be to
private sector employers. When FDR started the WPA, he was
on new ground. Obama has the advantage of 70 years of
hindsight. Hopefully, it will work out.
Beware - remember The Big Dig. :)
Indeed, work at the Big Dig was performed by private-sector
contractors, under the supervision of Bechtel Corporation and
Parsons Brinckerhoff.

Other large corporate managers and contractors included Jay
Cashman, Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini
Corporation, Peter Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and
the Slattery division of Skanska USA.
All under the Supervision of the Massachuetts Executive Office of
Transportation and Public Works, Massachusetts Highway Department,
Massachuetta Turnpike Authority, Boston Redevelopment Authority,
Boston Inspectional Services, Massachuetts Bay Transportation
Authority, Public Works and the Federal Department of
Transportation.
Great job.
So, the corporations ripped off the taxpayers, and the
governmental overseers were not good enough to prevent it. I agree.
More like both of them ripped off the taxpayer - the featherbedding
and employment and pay considerations imposed on the corporations
were
onerous and extreme.

Well, then...there is no difference between the private and public
sector.

And I would suggest that if the government had stayed out of it, it
would have come in under budget and on time.

Private industry thrives on performance bonuses.


Like wall street....

We know union members abhor performance bonuses, it screws up next years
contract negotiations.

You don't know any union members who "abhor" performance bonuses.

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wrote in message
...
On Jan 18, 3:57 pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

...

"thunder" wrote in message
et...
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:54:24 -0500, BAR wrote:

This highway work should have been occurring for the last 40 years due
to it being funded by federal gasoline and diesel taxes.

Yup, there's been lots of infrastructure neglected. Hopefully, this
stimulus package will kill two birds, get the economy moving again, and
fix our crumbling bridges, and roads.

Hopefully it will be structured and managed differently than the WPA
projects that Roosevelt initiated.
I was reading recently that problems with them included waste,
inefficiency, cost overruns and late schedules.
Because it was a federally backed program designed to hire unemployed
workers, the jobsite foremen had no authority to discipline or fire
slackers.

That's bad news because when some can sit on their asses and still get
paid, it affects the rest.

Eisboch

Yep, seems quite acceptable these days to steal a little bit from a lot of
people, and it is OK. A slacker does this, no one person immediately
suffers, just that a lot of people eat a little cost to carry the larder.
Trouble is when too many slackers/larders get on the wagon the weight on
the
real worker then becomes too much.

Sort of like today. Poor middle class worker has no cash and the economy
faulters. Bailouts for all the losers and screw the worker. Totally ass
backwards. Instead of spending $1T on bailouts, cut the middle class
workers taxes and let the blow hard incompetantants see their local church
for handouts. Does wonders to get the leaches to see more value in working
and less in slacking.

We have lost our moral ways on this for sure. Too much generosity to the
wrong types fosters more abuse of the system.

....wonder where my bailout is dammit.... LOL.- Hide quoted text -

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Like was said a million times.. They should have bailed out the
companies by giving the money to the people and having the companies
earn it instead of funding month long vacations directly. If they had
given money to the folks to buy cars, the car companies would have
sold cars, cleared the lots, gotten the money, and had work to do to
make new ones.. All of the companies, banks, wall street, car
companies just used the money to buy new business and take elaborate
vacations...
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Could not agree more. To me, corruption. Just like banana republic.

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hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:38:49 -0500, Boater wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:57:13 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:33:45 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:12 -0600, thunder

wrote:

This time around, I believe most of the moneys will be to
private sector employers. When FDR started the WPA, he was
on new ground. Obama has the advantage of 70 years of
hindsight. Hopefully, it will work out.
Beware - remember The Big Dig. :)
Indeed, work at the Big Dig was performed by private-sector
contractors, under the supervision of Bechtel Corporation and
Parsons Brinckerhoff.

Other large corporate managers and contractors included Jay
Cashman, Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini
Corporation, Peter Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and
the Slattery division of Skanska USA.
All under the Supervision of the Massachuetts Executive Office of
Transportation and Public Works, Massachusetts Highway
Department,
Massachuetta Turnpike Authority, Boston Redevelopment Authority,
Boston Inspectional Services, Massachuetts Bay Transportation
Authority, Public Works and the Federal Department of
Transportation.
Great job.
So, the corporations ripped off the taxpayers, and the
governmental overseers were not good enough to prevent it. I agree.
More like both of them ripped off the taxpayer - the featherbedding
and employment and pay considerations imposed on the corporations
were
onerous and extreme.

Well, then...there is no difference between the private and public
sector.

And I would suggest that if the government had stayed out of it, it
would have come in under budget and on time.

Private industry thrives on performance bonuses.


Like wall street....

We know union members abhor performance bonuses, it screws up next
years contract negotiations.

You don't know any union members who "abhor" performance bonuses.

I've never known a union guy to to get a job done early.