Some interesting parallels
 

hk wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:12 -0600, thunder
wrote:

This time around, I believe most of the moneys will be to private
sector employers. When FDR started the WPA, he was on new ground.
Obama has the advantage of 70 years of hindsight. Hopefully, it will
work out.

Beware - remember The Big Dig. :)

--

Indeed, work at the Big Dig was performed by private-sector contractors,
under the supervision of Bechtel Corporation and Parsons Brinckerhoff.

Other large corporate managers and contractors included Jay Cashman,
Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini Corporation, Peter
Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and the Slattery division of
Skanska USA.

And of course, let's not forget the incredible cost overruns and
screwups of the private corporate contractors in Iraq.

My wife was offered a job in Iraq by her company. She was going to get
over $300,000 a year to go set up earth stations. All of her living
expenses were going to be paid too. You had to air lift or fast boat
most building supplies into Iraq too. And, what wasn't stolen did leave
you much to work with.

Bitch all you want about the costs but, you have to understand why it
cost so much.

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:52:35 -0500, hk wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:14:34 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


Did you see one of the
"shovel ready" projects Obama wants to fund is a Mob Museum in Nevada?

Cite, please? The Mayor of Las Vegas, Oscar Goodman, is *seeking*
Federal funding. No where will you find Obama stating he "wants" to fund
it.

I think we'll be seeing a lot of heavy and highway projects and other
federal construction that falls under the purview of Davis-Bacon and
prevailing wages.

The Big Dig - oh joy. 15 Billion for what was supposed to be a 3
Billion project. 12 years in the making when it was supposed to take
7. Union featherbedding rampant. Cement contractors cheating on the
concrete. Bad epoxy leading to the death of some poor schmuck who was
on her way to the airport. 1.6 Billion in legal expenses. The
tunnels leak at a gazillion gallons a day. Tripled tolls on the Mass
Pike.

Yep - let's go for broke.

Pun intended.

--

Chaos! Panic! Disaster! (My work here is done)

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BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:12 -0600, thunder
wrote:

This time around, I believe most of the moneys will be to private
sector employers. When FDR started the WPA, he was on new ground.
Obama has the advantage of 70 years of hindsight. Hopefully, it
will work out.

Beware - remember The Big Dig. :)

--

Indeed, work at the Big Dig was performed by private-sector
contractors, under the supervision of Bechtel Corporation and Parsons
Brinckerhoff.

Other large corporate managers and contractors included Jay Cashman,
Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini Corporation, Peter
Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and the Slattery division of
Skanska USA.

And of course, let's not forget the incredible cost overruns and
screwups of the private corporate contractors in Iraq.

My wife was offered a job in Iraq by her company. She was going to get
over $300,000 a year to go set up earth stations. All of her living
expenses were going to be paid too. You had to air lift or fast boat
most building supplies into Iraq too. And, what wasn't stolen did leave
you much to work with.

Bitch all you want about the costs but, you have to understand why it
cost so much.

Sure. Greed. War profiteering. The usual.

Some interesting parallels
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:54:24 -0500, BAR wrote:


This highway work should have been occurring for the last 40 years due
to it being funded by federal gasoline and diesel taxes.

Yup, there's been lots of infrastructure neglected. Hopefully, this
stimulus package will kill two birds, get the economy moving again, and
fix our crumbling bridges, and roads.

This stimulus package is nothing but a power grab. The Congress should be
strung up and beaten with a stick until the funds from the gasoline and
diesel taxes are actually spent on the roads instead of redirected into
the general fund.

The stimulus package is not going to get the economy moving again. You
could send everyone a check for $1000 and it wouldn't do anything to get
the economy moving again.

We need a long term solution, something that is going to give everyone
long term confidence that the economy is going to improve. Eliminate
corporate taxes, reduce capital gains taxes and cut personal income taxes
in half but, make sure that everyone who earns income pays taxes. No
individual gets a free ride on taxes. This will get the economy moving
again. The people will have confidence that they will have more money to
spend themselves. Businesses will have more money to spend on capital
equipment and the ability to hire more people. Investors will be
encouraged to move their money into ventures that may produce greater
returns.

The government is the last last place to turn to get the economy moving
due to the fact that they haven't got the foggiest idea of what to invest
in or how to spend money to gain the greatest impact due to the
professional politicians who control the purse strings.

You're as bad as Justhate... always looking to weasel out of paying your
fair share of taxes.
Who's supposed to pay for Bushs' adventures in the Middle East?

Some interesting parallels
 

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:54:24 -0500, BAR wrote:


This highway work should have been occurring for the last 40 years due
to it being funded by federal gasoline and diesel taxes.
Yup, there's been lots of infrastructure neglected. Hopefully, this
stimulus package will kill two birds, get the economy moving again, and
fix our crumbling bridges, and roads.
This stimulus package is nothing but a power grab. The Congress should be
strung up and beaten with a stick until the funds from the gasoline and
diesel taxes are actually spent on the roads instead of redirected into
the general fund.

The stimulus package is not going to get the economy moving again. You
could send everyone a check for $1000 and it wouldn't do anything to get
the economy moving again.

We need a long term solution, something that is going to give everyone
long term confidence that the economy is going to improve. Eliminate
corporate taxes, reduce capital gains taxes and cut personal income taxes
in half but, make sure that everyone who earns income pays taxes. No
individual gets a free ride on taxes. This will get the economy moving
again. The people will have confidence that they will have more money to
spend themselves. Businesses will have more money to spend on capital
equipment and the ability to hire more people. Investors will be
encouraged to move their money into ventures that may produce greater
returns.

The government is the last last place to turn to get the economy moving
due to the fact that they haven't got the foggiest idea of what to invest
in or how to spend money to gain the greatest impact due to the
professional politicians who control the purse strings.

You're as bad as Justhate... always looking to weasel out of paying your
fair share of taxes.
Who's supposed to pay for Bushs' adventures in the Middle East?



Hehehe...

War mongering, good. Infrastructure projects, bad.

Some interesting parallels
 

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:54:24 -0500, BAR wrote:


This highway work should have been occurring for the last 40 years due
to it being funded by federal gasoline and diesel taxes.
Yup, there's been lots of infrastructure neglected. Hopefully, this
stimulus package will kill two birds, get the economy moving again, and
fix our crumbling bridges, and roads.
This stimulus package is nothing but a power grab. The Congress should be
strung up and beaten with a stick until the funds from the gasoline and
diesel taxes are actually spent on the roads instead of redirected into
the general fund.

The stimulus package is not going to get the economy moving again. You
could send everyone a check for $1000 and it wouldn't do anything to get
the economy moving again.

We need a long term solution, something that is going to give everyone
long term confidence that the economy is going to improve. Eliminate
corporate taxes, reduce capital gains taxes and cut personal income taxes
in half but, make sure that everyone who earns income pays taxes. No
individual gets a free ride on taxes. This will get the economy moving
again. The people will have confidence that they will have more money to
spend themselves. Businesses will have more money to spend on capital
equipment and the ability to hire more people. Investors will be
encouraged to move their money into ventures that may produce greater
returns.

The government is the last last place to turn to get the economy moving
due to the fact that they haven't got the foggiest idea of what to invest
in or how to spend money to gain the greatest impact due to the
professional politicians who control the purse strings.

You're as bad as Justhate... always looking to weasel out of paying your
fair share of taxes.

What is "a fair share of taxes?"

Who's supposed to pay for Bushs' adventures in the Middle East?

Who's supposed to pay for Obama's "national health care?"

Some interesting parallels
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...n_Portrait.flv

Parallels? What parallels.



Perhaps if you had stayed in school a little longer...

I went to Yale and graduate with a BA.

Did no one ever tell you about BA... Bugger All.

MBA, More Bugger All.

Most BA and MBA I know, I don't care for and they can't even articulate what
they have been tought. Some even mix up credit/debits and can't balance
their own cheque book.

I am not saying BA/MBA are bad, not at all. But I consider it a "soft"
degree.

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Canuck57 wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...n_Portrait.flv
Parallels? What parallels.


Perhaps if you had stayed in school a little longer...
I went to Yale and graduate with a BA.

Did no one ever tell you about BA... Bugger All.

MBA, More Bugger All.

Most BA and MBA I know, I don't care for and they can't even articulate what
they have been tought. Some even mix up credit/debits and can't balance
their own cheque book.

I am not saying BA/MBA are bad, not at all. But I consider it a "soft"
degree.




You hang with the wrong crowd.

Some interesting parallels
 

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:33:45 -0500, hk wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:12 -0600, thunder
wrote:

This time around, I believe most of the moneys will be to private sector
employers. When FDR started the WPA, he was on new ground. Obama has
the advantage of 70 years of hindsight. Hopefully, it will work out.

Beware - remember The Big Dig. :)

Indeed, work at the Big Dig was performed by private-sector contractors,
under the supervision of Bechtel Corporation and Parsons Brinckerhoff.

Other large corporate managers and contractors included Jay Cashman,
Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini Corporation, Peter
Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and the Slattery division of
Skanska USA.

All under the Supervision of the Massachuetts Executive Office of
Transportation and Public Works, Massachusetts Highway Department,
Massachuetta Turnpike Authority, Boston Redevelopment Authority,
Boston Inspectional Services, Massachuetts Bay Transportation
Authority, Public Works and the Federal Department of Transportation.

Great job.

--

When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you

Some interesting parallels
 

BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:54:24 -0500, BAR wrote:


This highway work should have been occurring for the last 40 years due
to it being funded by federal gasoline and diesel taxes.
Yup, there's been lots of infrastructure neglected. Hopefully, this
stimulus package will kill two birds, get the economy moving again,
and fix our crumbling bridges, and roads.
This stimulus package is nothing but a power grab. The Congress
should be strung up and beaten with a stick until the funds from the
gasoline and diesel taxes are actually spent on the roads instead of
redirected into the general fund.

The stimulus package is not going to get the economy moving again.
You could send everyone a check for $1000 and it wouldn't do anything
to get the economy moving again.

We need a long term solution, something that is going to give
everyone long term confidence that the economy is going to improve.
Eliminate corporate taxes, reduce capital gains taxes and cut
personal income taxes in half but, make sure that everyone who earns
income pays taxes. No individual gets a free ride on taxes. This will
get the economy moving again. The people will have confidence that
they will have more money to spend themselves. Businesses will have
more money to spend on capital equipment and the ability to hire more
people. Investors will be encouraged to move their money into
ventures that may produce greater returns.

The government is the last last place to turn to get the economy
moving due to the fact that they haven't got the foggiest idea of
what to invest in or how to spend money to gain the greatest impact
due to the professional politicians who control the purse strings.

You're as bad as Justhate... always looking to weasel out of paying
your fair share of taxes.

What is "a fair share of taxes?"

Who's supposed to pay for Bushs' adventures in the Middle East?

Who's supposed to pay for Obama's "national health care?"



You're already paing it; we're just not getting it. I don't believe you
will ever figure it out.