On Jan 15, 3:47 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:31:43 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 15, 2:30 pm, John H wrote:
Al Gore says global warming is a planetary emergency. It is difficult to
see how this can be so when record low temperatures are being set all over
the world. In 2007, hundreds of people died, not from global warming, but
from cold weather hazards.....

http://tinyurl.com/5u3qtl
How does people dying from cold (which happens every year) determine
that there is no global warming? Also, again, specific, immediate
changes in climate (called weather) is very different from global
warming. I thought you understood this.

This is JohnH you are dealing with. The guy who couldn't figure out if
the battery charger he was going to buy online was a "smart" charger.
The problem, it turns out, is that ALL battery chargers are smarter
than he is.

So are dead batteries.

The corellation between climate and sunspot count is very very good.
Evidence for Anthropic Global Warming happens to be very poor. Even
the measurements of pre-industrial age CO2 from ice cores is very
suspect as they didnt keep the cores pressurized and the CO2
pressurized in the ice caused micro-fractures and leaked out. The
near surface measuremrnts of temp are grossly tainted with urban
effects because many of the temp measuring sites are so badly
situated. The tree ring data used by people to try to reconstruct
past temps is so bad that it simply is not useful.
Do this experiment for yourself, go out to a grove of planted trees
where they were all planted at the same time. Look at the varying
diameters. Do you really think you can determine a .1 degree
difference by measuring rings from only 3 -5 of the trees?
With the record low temps, sunspot count happens to be at the lowest
level since 1900. Arctic ice coverage is now as large as in 1979 and
polar bears are not drowning.
Al Gore knowingly stated falsly that ice on kilamanjaro was receding
due to global warmign when he knew that it is simply due to
deforestation. Yes, Al Gore knowingly lied.
So, we can all expect cooler temps instead of warmer ones. Global
warmign was nothing more than a scam to get centralized economic
planning by academics who are barely able to tie their own shoes.