WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

Eisboch wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."

(Reggie Crap Deleted)



I don't know if Harry attended Yale or not and don't really care. I get
a bit responsive though when he his critical of others in terms of their
education or tries to justify the qualifications of people based on what
school they went to rather than what they accomplish.

With our kids I preached that in reality it didn't matter what school
you went to as long as you pursued a degree. A degree is a key for
opportunity but unless you plan to enter the job market as an attorney
or something at some prestigious law firm, the school you attended and
earned your degree from really isn't that important. The biggest battle
I had with our oldest son was trying to convince him that his school
selection should not be based on the football coach's offensive line
strategy. (He was quarterback and team captain of his high school
football team).

I saw a show the other day where a professor at a well known big
university was discussing this. She made the point that more focus and
interest should be given to trade and technical schools in the US.
Mike Barnacle was also a panelist on the show and he and she both agreed
that one of the biggest educational "bargains" today are Jr. Colleges
and state universities, both of which Barnacle attended and earned his
degree.

Having dealt with many people who never left the world of academia,
worked at big colleges and universities and rated themselves and their
peers based on how many papers they authored and delivered, I couldn't
agree more with the show's quest or Barnacle.

Eisboch


There's nothing wrong with pursuing education at any reputable
institution of higher learning.

Unless things have changed dramatically, there is little difference in
the first two years of course at Ivy schools and at any decent major
public university. Most are taught by a combination of TA's and lower
rank professors. The higher level courses at Ivy schools and other
prestigious institutions tend to be run by higher ranking professors.

There is a difference in grad schools, though, at least in the liberal
arts. I had a very famous faculty chair directing me for my M.A. in
English, and I don't think that would have been the case at, say,
Michigan State, which, by the way, is a fine institution.

My wife is experiencing a quality faculty as she finishes up her
dissertation. There are three faculty committees that guided and
criticized her research. She has a colleague who is pursuing the same
degree at another institution. The colleague does not have to write a
dissertation.

Apparently, there are a number of name-brand institutions that do no
require their grad students to research and write a long paper as part
of the process of earning an advanced degree. *That* is a loss.

But as been pointed out, no one really looks at your grad school courses
when you apply for a job.

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:57:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
om...

Which explains why Harry Krause has fabricated his Yale story. He is
hung
up on his inability to get an Ivy League education. I still don't
understand why or how he ever came up with Univ. of Kansas in his quest
to
get a quality Liberal Arts Education.

If you look at the number of people who have been successful in their
chosen fields you will see most DO NOT have an Ivy League school
education.

I would also postulate that most of those successful individuals who DO
HAVE an Ivy League would have been successful no matter what college
they
went to.

The Ivy League education can help someone in their first job, but after
that, it is up to the individual's ability to perform.


I don't know if Harry attended Yale or not and don't really care. I get a
bit responsive though when he his critical of others in terms of their
education or tries to justify the qualifications of people based on what
school they went to rather than what they accomplish.

With our kids I preached that in reality it didn't matter what school you
went to as long as you pursued a degree. A degree is a key for
opportunity
but unless you plan to enter the job market as an attorney or something at
some prestigious law firm, the school you attended and earned your degree
from really isn't that important. The biggest battle I had with our
oldest
son was trying to convince him that his school selection should not be
based
on the football coach's offensive line strategy. (He was quarterback and
team captain of his high school football team).

I saw a show the other day where a professor at a well known big
university
was discussing this. She made the point that more focus and interest
should
be given to trade and technical schools in the US. Mike Barnacle was
also
a panelist on the show and he and she both agreed that one of the biggest
educational "bargains" today are Jr. Colleges and state universities, both
of which Barnacle attended and earned his degree.

Having dealt with many people who never left the world of academia, worked
at big colleges and universities and rated themselves and their peers
based
on how many papers they authored and delivered, I couldn't agree more with
the show's quest or Barnacle.

Eisboch

The problem with attitudes like Harry's is that it spreads to the kids in
school, many of whom are trying to win a popularity contest because of the
school they choose. In Virginia, any credit earned at a community college
*must* be accepted by any state university. My younger daughter took
advantage of that, going to a community college for two years and then
transferring to George Mason for her nursing degree. She saved a lot of my
money. She then used that to help with the down payment on a house.

She learned something.

Good for her.

My youngest had ok but not outstanding high school grades. His best friend
was accepted at MIT and my son wanted badly to go there also with great
visions of Boston nightlife. It was judgment day. He ended up doing a year
at Bridgewater State and then transferred over to the MA Maritime Academy.
Best thing he ever did.

Eisboch

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:57:26 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I don't know if Harry attended Yale or not and don't really care. I get a
bit responsive though when he his critical of others in terms of their
education or tries to justify the qualifications of people based on what
school they went to rather than what they accomplish.

Damn straight. You taught your kids like I taught mine.

I've already showcased one of ours here - you should see what the
other three did with their lives.

It's what you do with your life, not where you were educated.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:15:37 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

oooops. "guest". (lousy education)

Must have been a state school.

Oh wait - I went to a state school.

Never mind.... :)

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

Eisboch wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...


Just looked up Maddow. She's kind of cute. Who is she dating?

She's taken. Her "life" partner is even cuter.

Eisboch

Wait a minute. Does life partner mean what I think it does?

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

Jim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:08:16 -0500, Boater wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Obvious. Then again, what would you expect from a guy who claims he
was raped by a 16 year old girl when he was 12.
I wish. She was only about a year or so older than I was. And I
used the term "rape" facetiously. I was a willing victim.

Harry, you are lying through your teeth.

You bragged about her being 16 years old and you were only twelve.
Willing or not, that is rape in this state - there is no such thing as
concentual sex between underage children.

It's statuatory rape - period, end of discussion.

Honest to pete Harry - you can't even get your story straight.

Use an index of some sort will you?


Well, it was a long time ago. I remember the event, and being 12 or
13, and the gal being a year or so older. I do remember her name,
though.

It's consensual, by the way.

I didn't complain. Despite the statutes.

And I didn't get pregnant and have to drop out of high school.


You may not remember her age today, because that is one of the
problems with Alzheimer. About a year ago, you were very emphatic
about her being 16.

I can imagine the 16 yr old who want to have sex with a 12 yr old.
It is not a pretty sight.

She must have been a real skank.

While I don't believe the "rape" story anymore than I believe any of the
other Harry "stories", I can't think what is worse. A 16 yr old girl,
who has sex with a 12 yr old, or a 60+ yr old man who uses that story to
enhance his reputation as a stud.

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:09:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:08:16 -0500, Boater wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Obvious. Then again, what would you expect from a guy who claims he
was raped by a 16 year old girl when he was 12.
I wish. She was only about a year or so older than I was. And I used
the term "rape" facetiously. I was a willing victim.

Harry, you are lying through your teeth.

You bragged about her being 16 years old and you were only twelve.
Willing or not, that is rape in this state - there is no such thing as
concentual sex between underage children.

It's statuatory rape - period, end of discussion.

Honest to pete Harry - you can't even get your story straight.

Use an index of some sort will you?


Well, it was a long time ago. I remember the event, and being 12 or 13,
and the gal being a year or so older. I do remember her name, though.

It's consensual, by the way.

I didn't complain. Despite the statutes.

And I didn't get pregnant and have to drop out of high school.


You may not remember her age today, because that is one of the problems
with Alzheimer. About a year ago, you were very emphatic about her
being 16.

I can imagine the 16 yr old who want to have sex with a 12 yr old.
It is not a pretty sight.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictures/tres-boobs.jpg

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:51:31 -0500, Jim wrote:

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:43:33 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

wrote in message
...

On Jan 10, 6:15 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
More drool from Andy Borwitz..

There's more cleverness and wit in Andy's farts than anything
you have
done in your entire life, with the possible exception of getting
in a
fight with the cops at your local police station.

No there isn't. All he sells is hate. It's the same lame comedy
(being
generous here) that ruined Saturday Night Live and Air America... it
sells great to folks like you and readers of the Huffington Hoax..


------------------

Which reminds me. I was watching one of Harry's favorites, Rachael
Maddow the other day.
I get a kick out of her because she's so blatantly biased. She was
interviewing some guest, discussing a subject that had absolutely
nothing
to do with Bush, Obama, the economy or anything of current
importance yet
somehow she found a way to cast blame on Bush in response to almost
anything the guest said. It was comical and I wish I had a tape
recorder
or DVR on to preserve it.

I guess it's currently the "in" thing to be an elitist, liberal,
Bush
bashing celebrity I guess. It surprises me because she holds a
PhD in
something, so she's not stupid. Just brainwashed.

Eisboch


Bush has had a hand in or on just about every major problem this
country
is facing. The majority of adults in this country give him very
low marks
and will be pleased to see him out of office. Maddow's doctorate
is from
one of the Oxford colleges.

So what? Bush went to Yale. You are so over impressed with academic
credentials that you are blinded to reality.

Eisboch

A C student who got in on his family's coattails.

They guy doesn't have critical thinking skills. He's just ****ed up
the 5th job he's had in his adult life.

He's batting 1.000


Which has nothing to do with Harry's fascination and worship of
people with Ivy league degrees.
It's a common issue in his assessment of the "smartness", job
qualifications and value of others.

During a presidential news conference, I particularly liked Ronald
Reagan's response to a reporter who was trying to make a name for
himself by asking about Reagan's school (Eureka College) in a wise
ass and critical way.

Reagan paused for a minute then replied (paraphrasing), "gee, I was
just thinking of what I could have become if I had gone to a big name
school".

IMO, Reagan was a lot smarter and accomplished than the modern left
give him credit for.
I am not necessarily speaking of his policies. I am referring to his
leadership qualities. He was secure in his mind of what he wanted to
achieve, he handled himself well in a crisis and oozed with optimism
for the future which was infectious to the rest of the population.
That's true leadership. I am not alone in this assessment or
opinion. More and more people that worked closely with him are
coming forward, discounting many of the rumors and myths of him being
a "dullard" or asleep at the wheel.

Eisboch



Which has nothing to do with George W. Bush or Sarah Palin, who are
dunces, and Rachel Maddow, who is not. There's nothing about Bush's
academic background that impresses me. He got into Yale as a legacy
and Harvard Biz because of family connections. He was a mediocre
student and he is a mediocre intellect. Palin is intellectually lazy,
and it shows.
Maddow is very, very bright and it shows.

The problem with your argument is that by denigrating Sarah Palin and
George W Bush and their accomplishments you minimize any one else when
they accomplish the same thing. Being a governor or president isn't an
achievement of merit, hell Sarah Palin and George W Bush were Governors.
And George W Bush was President. Barak H Obama hasn't done anything that
a dunce off the street hadn't already accomplished. And, Bush a dunce
had already attended an Ivy League school not much of an accomplishment
Barak H Obama to do what a dunce has already done.

Maddow is a radical partisan. The only thing interesting about here is
that she is a fresh face in the crowd.

Just looked up Maddow. She's kind of cute. Who is she dating?

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictures/tres-boobs.jpg

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."

(Reggie Crap Deleted)



I don't know if Harry attended Yale or not and don't really care. I get
a bit responsive though when he his critical of others in terms of their
education or tries to justify the qualifications of people based on what
school they went to rather than what they accomplish.

With our kids I preached that in reality it didn't matter what school you
went to as long as you pursued a degree. A degree is a key for
opportunity but unless you plan to enter the job market as an attorney or
something at some prestigious law firm, the school you attended and
earned your degree from really isn't that important. The biggest battle
I had with our oldest son was trying to convince him that his school
selection should not be based on the football coach's offensive line
strategy. (He was quarterback and team captain of his high school
football team).

I saw a show the other day where a professor at a well known big
university was discussing this. She made the point that more focus and
interest should be given to trade and technical schools in the US. Mike
Barnacle was also a panelist on the show and he and she both agreed that
one of the biggest educational "bargains" today are Jr. Colleges and
state universities, both of which Barnacle attended and earned his
degree.

Having dealt with many people who never left the world of academia,
worked at big colleges and universities and rated themselves and their
peers based on how many papers they authored and delivered, I couldn't
agree more with the show's quest or Barnacle.

Eisboch


There's nothing wrong with pursuing education at any reputable institution
of higher learning.

Unless things have changed dramatically, there is little difference in the
first two years of course at Ivy schools and at any decent major public
university. Most are taught by a combination of TA's and lower rank
professors. The higher level courses at Ivy schools and other prestigious
institutions tend to be run by higher ranking professors.

There is a difference in grad schools, though, at least in the liberal
arts. I had a very famous faculty chair directing me for my M.A. in
English, and I don't think that would have been the case at, say, Michigan
State, which, by the way, is a fine institution.

My wife is experiencing a quality faculty as she finishes up her
dissertation. There are three faculty committees that guided and
criticized her research. She has a colleague who is pursuing the same
degree at another institution. The colleague does not have to write a
dissertation.

Apparently, there are a number of name-brand institutions that do no
require their grad students to research and write a long paper as part of
the process of earning an advanced degree. *That* is a loss.

But as been pointed out, no one really looks at your grad school courses
when you apply for a job.

That's true for most people. In fact, for most people applying for a job
the school they received their undergrad degree isn't that important.

Sometime I feel sorry for people that invested all the time and money
pursuing degrees and advanced degrees thinking it made them specially
qualified only to find out that in the real world nobody cared, other than
their academic peers.

This isn't directed at you or your wife, but I knew many of them due to the
type of work I was involved in. Many shared a couple of common attributes
in their personalities. First, they thought they were special, superior
creatures because their greatest achievement was producing their CV. The
other is that they were often very frustrated.

To her credit, Maddow *is* doing something with her PhD. She's the host of
a nightly comedy show.

Eisboch

WTF is Jamesgang? Guess left wing drool is ok, typical...
 

John H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:57:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
Which explains why Harry Krause has fabricated his Yale story. He is hung
up on his inability to get an Ivy League education. I still don't
understand why or how he ever came up with Univ. of Kansas in his quest to
get a quality Liberal Arts Education.

If you look at the number of people who have been successful in their
chosen fields you will see most DO NOT have an Ivy League school
education.

I would also postulate that most of those successful individuals who DO
HAVE an Ivy League would have been successful no matter what college they
went to.

The Ivy League education can help someone in their first job, but after
that, it is up to the individual's ability to perform.

I don't know if Harry attended Yale or not and don't really care. I get a
bit responsive though when he his critical of others in terms of their
education or tries to justify the qualifications of people based on what
school they went to rather than what they accomplish.

With our kids I preached that in reality it didn't matter what school you
went to as long as you pursued a degree. A degree is a key for opportunity
but unless you plan to enter the job market as an attorney or something at
some prestigious law firm, the school you attended and earned your degree
from really isn't that important. The biggest battle I had with our oldest
son was trying to convince him that his school selection should not be based
on the football coach's offensive line strategy. (He was quarterback and
team captain of his high school football team).

I saw a show the other day where a professor at a well known big university
was discussing this. She made the point that more focus and interest should
be given to trade and technical schools in the US. Mike Barnacle was also
a panelist on the show and he and she both agreed that one of the biggest
educational "bargains" today are Jr. Colleges and state universities, both
of which Barnacle attended and earned his degree.

Having dealt with many people who never left the world of academia, worked
at big colleges and universities and rated themselves and their peers based
on how many papers they authored and delivered, I couldn't agree more with
the show's quest or Barnacle.

Eisboch

The problem with attitudes like Harry's is that it spreads to the kids in
school, many of whom are trying to win a popularity contest because of the
school they choose. In Virginia, any credit earned at a community college
*must* be accepted by any state university. My younger daughter took
advantage of that, going to a community college for two years and then
transferring to George Mason for her nursing degree. She saved a lot of my
money. She then used that to help with the down payment on a house.

She learned something.

A friend of mine's daughter will be attending Vanderbilt next year. She
aspires to be a third grade teacher or get a degree in Mrs.