"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital to
get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital
to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.

"hk" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital
to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.


You have to be kidding. Businesses survive, employ people, provide health
plans, and grow because they can make a profit. Take that incentive away
and you get what we have now.

Eisboch

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital
to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.


You have to be kidding. Businesses survive, employ people, provide health
plans, and grow because they can make a profit. Take that incentive away
and you get what we have now.

Eisboch

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting
with the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards
capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.
\

The Chinese Government *is* the ultimate union labor establishment. Are you
sure that's what you want?

Eisboch

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting
with the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards
capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.

What a line of crap. I never was anti-union, nor pro-union until the
dysfunctional and corrupt GM & Chrysler bailout was happening. This crosses
the line into bilking tax payers, US and Canadian for a ****ed up pair of
companies. Brown boys for Carlyle and Cerberus.

Most of the people laid off are not auto at all. Infact better than 95% are
non-auto. Who is bailing them out? Would they be bailed out if private
equity with Bush connections didn't exist? Senate and congress didn't
aprrprove, yet no noise of funds misapproriation? Smacks of corruption and
union rant.

Unions are small fry making big noise, some politician aught to tell CAW/UAW
to shove it up their asses.

Adding to middle class tax load with bailouts makes the problem worse.
Government does not yet get it, it isn't the solution, it is the problem.
They need to leave middle class with more of their tax dollars.

You can't keep adding to the tax load when the problem is the middle class
was short of cash. In time, it will come back on taxes and make the problem
worse. If you want main stream north Americans to buy GM & Chrysler, they
first need the money to pay their mortgages or they will not be buying cars.

You want the economy fixed? So do I. But it isn't going to get better
until you pick the corrupt leaches of the ass of the tax payer. Government
got greedy with cheap easy fiat money managment to fund over sized
government and corrupt practices, reverse that and we can all enjoy.

If I sound aggitated, I am, this explains:

Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.
I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.

Screw that. What happed to being pro-choice.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:45:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch

And my few liberal friends are not at all concerned about it. One of them,
a good friend, actually said that there were enough right-leaning Democrats
in Congress to keep that from happening.