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Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for
a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch |
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On Jan 6, 9:45*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Ok. *Did as you suggested. *It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. *When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. *(Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. *So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch Have you tried AVG ? Its free, and I've never had anything hit me in ages..... |
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Eisboch wrote:
Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch Yes, uninstall Defender |
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Eisboch wrote:
Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch No. I installed AVG on one of my VISTA machine while Defender was running. Defender is not an anti-vi... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../software.mspx Windows Live One Care, though, does contain an anti-vi, if memory serves. http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-...re/default.htm But it is a sign up and pay for service, I think. |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 9:45 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch Have you tried AVG ? Its free, and I've never had anything hit me in ages..... ----------------------------------- Just curious. Do you *read* posts before you respond to them? Eisboch |
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"hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch No. I installed AVG on one of my VISTA machine while Defender was running. Defender is not an anti-vi... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../software.mspx Agreed. It's an anti-spyware program. It still works even with AVG now successfully installed. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch Sorry, but I don't know what to tell you. In the case I'm referring to it was on an HP laptop. From all appearances of the length of time to uninstall it was installed and just sitting there waiting to be activated. I don't know it there was a free trial period or not. I did the uninstall thing before opening any other of Norton's shortcuts. Widows defender and an antivirus can co-exist. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch No. I installed AVG on one of my VISTA machine while Defender was running. Defender is not an anti-vi... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../software.mspx Agreed. It's an anti-spyware program. It still works even with AVG now successfully installed. Eisboch Do you have a separate hard drive backup device for your various computers? |
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"hk" wrote in message m... Do you have a separate hard drive backup device for your various computers? No. I really don't think I have a need for one. I don't keep anything of importance or value on the computers and the few files that I want to save I burn to either a data CD or a Flash Memory card. Lately I've been making my own music videos that I burn to DVDs. I also keep CD backups of various specialty programs that I use often which are mostly music and/or audio mixing/manipulation programs. When I was working and the computer I used had important documents on it, it was automatically backed up every night. Not by me though. I wouldn't know how. It was done by the the resident company IP/computer guru. Eisboch |
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On Jan 6, 11:08*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 9:45 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch Have you tried AVG ? Its free, and I've never had anything hit me in ages..... ----------------------------------- Just curious. *Do you *read* posts before you respond to them? Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, but suggested it anyway. |
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wrote in message ... Just curious. Do you *read* posts before you respond to them? Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, but suggested it anyway. ------------------------- Well, in that case, thanks. AVG *was* the program I was trying to install. It now is installed, and is working fine. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message m... Do you have a separate hard drive backup device for your various computers? No. I really don't think I have a need for one. I don't keep anything of importance or value on the computers and the few files that I want to save I burn to either a data CD or a Flash Memory card. Lately I've been making my own music videos that I burn to DVDs. I also keep CD backups of various specialty programs that I use often which are mostly music and/or audio mixing/manipulation programs. When I was working and the computer I used had important documents on it, it was automatically backed up every night. Not by me though. I wouldn't know how. It was done by the the resident company IP/computer guru. Eisboch I was going to recommend a NAS. Fairly easy to set up, and once it is set up, it auto backs up every computer attached to the net every night. |
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On Jan 6, 11:35*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... Just curious. Do you *read* posts before you respond to them? Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, but suggested it anyway. ------------------------- Well, in that case, thanks. * AVG *was* the program I was trying to install. It now is installed, and is working fine. Eisboch You wont regret it. |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:08:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 9:45 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Have you tried AVG ? Its free, and I've never had anything hit me in ages..... ----------------------------------- Just curious. Do you *read* posts before you respond to them? Damn man - I just choked on an apple. Give a guy some warning will you? :) -- Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off. |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:08:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 9:45 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Ok. Did as you suggested. It only took less than a minute, then called for a "restart", which I allowed. When the computer came back up there was no Norton to be seen. (Maybe it was uninstalled quickly because I had never enabled it to begin with). I got a balloon from Windows telling me I didn't have any anti-virus programs installed. The Windows firewall is on, but it said no virus protection software was detected. I figured "good", and then proceeded to try and install the AVG software. The installation started, extracted all the files, etc., then a message came up saying that it had detected another installed anti-virus program and didn't recommend continuing unless I got rid of whatever it is. So, I aborted the installation. Windows Defender? Eisboch Have you tried AVG ? Its free, and I've never had anything hit me in ages..... ----------------------------------- Just curious. Do you *read* posts before you respond to them? Eisboch The free AVG lacks some pretty important features. The paid version is far superior, and is as good as Norton. The free one, not so much... My opinion is that by practicing *safe hex* you can pretty much be assured that you won't have any problems. I've been very active on the Internet for about 20 years and have never had my machines (Windows) infected. All I've ever used beside being careful is something like the free version of AVG. |
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote:
Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 2:08 pm, wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. For that purpose, I purchased Adaware SE. It removes ALL trackers and malware. Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy . Start Turn Off Computer Turn Off |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 2:08 pm, wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. For that purpose, I purchased Adaware SE. It removes ALL trackers and malware. Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy . Start Turn Off Computer Turn Off Or, alternatively, right click on "rec.boats", unsubscribe, left click. Bye. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:09:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 2:08 pm, wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. For that purpose, I purchased Adaware SE. It removes ALL trackers and malware. Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy . Start Turn Off Computer Turn Off Duck, I don't change my name very often. You can just filter me. |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:09:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 2:08 pm, wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. For that purpose, I purchased Adaware SE. It removes ALL trackers and malware. Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy . Start Turn Off Computer Turn Off Duck, I don't change my name very often. You can just filter me. Huh? I just suggested a *filter* to slammer that was all inclusive. I don't filter anybody. |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:44:26 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:09:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 2:08 pm, wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. For that purpose, I purchased Adaware SE. It removes ALL trackers and malware. Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy . Start Turn Off Computer Turn Off Duck, I don't change my name very often. You can just filter me. Huh? I just suggested a *filter* to slammer that was all inclusive. I don't filter anybody. Whoops. I thought you'd written, "Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy ." If that was slammer, then my comment should go to him. |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:44:26 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:09:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 2:08 pm, wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. For that purpose, I purchased Adaware SE. It removes ALL trackers and malware. Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy . Start Turn Off Computer Turn Off Duck, I don't change my name very often. You can just filter me. Huh? I just suggested a *filter* to slammer that was all inclusive. I don't filter anybody. Whoops. I thought you'd written, "Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy ." If that was slammer, then my comment should go to him. Thank you.....I was just suggesting a *fool* proof filter. |
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Mr. Duck .... Just wanted to let you know that I've done several restarts and reboots today while installing some new software. Mr. Norton has not raised his head since I uninstalled him per your method. Starting to think he really has left and the computer has been successfully exorcised. Eisboch |
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D.Duck wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:44:26 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:09:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 2:08 pm, wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:13 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Like the Duck, I am also careful about where and what I look for. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's not, but I certainly have never experienced any of the horror stories of infections one hears about. *Where* may have a lot to do with it. A computer illiterate friend had me look at his computer. It had slowed to a crawl, and he couldn't figure it out. The "problem" was a 15 year old son that had access to the computer. I can only guess at all the warez, porno, and other crapware sites he had been visiting. I couldn't count all the malware installed. For that purpose, I purchased Adaware SE. It removes ALL trackers and malware. Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy . Start Turn Off Computer Turn Off Duck, I don't change my name very often. You can just filter me. Huh? I just suggested a *filter* to slammer that was all inclusive. I don't filter anybody. Whoops. I thought you'd written, "Now, if someone could only invent a scan tool that would erase Herring, and Uncle Loogy ." If that was slammer, then my comment should go to him. Thank you.....I was just suggesting a *fool* proof filter. I hate to correct you, but an even more effective filter is to take a hammer to the computer. |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:37:07 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: Mr. Duck .... Just wanted to let you know that I've done several restarts and reboots today while installing some new software. Mr. Norton has not raised his head since I uninstalled him per your method. Starting to think he really has left and the computer has been successfully exorcised. Guess you're not a horror film fan. You're just asking to be surprised. --Vic |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:37:07 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: Mr. Duck .... Just wanted to let you know that I've done several restarts and reboots today while installing some new software. Mr. Norton has not raised his head since I uninstalled him per your method. Starting to think he really has left and the computer has been successfully exorcised. So your monitor has not spun around and/or puked up something that looks like green pea soup? |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:32:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
Thank you.....I was just suggesting a *fool* proof filter. You know, there is a corollary to the "only an idiot" supposition. To wit: "If you make a system fool proof, somebody will make a better fool." |
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On Jan 7, 8:16*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:32:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: Thank you.....I was just suggesting a *fool* proof filter. You know, there is a corollary to the "only an idiot" supposition. To wit: *"If you make a system fool proof, somebody will make a better fool." snerk. Back when we built database, based websites, we used to have our freind Glenn screw with them. If they were "Glenn-Proof", nobody could break them;) |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:37:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Mr. Duck .... Just wanted to let you know that I've done several restarts and reboots today while installing some new software. Mr. Norton has not raised his head since I uninstalled him per your method. Starting to think he really has left and the computer has been successfully exorcised. So your monitor has not spun around and/or puked up something that looks like green pea soup? No, but I almost did. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Mr. Duck .... Just wanted to let you know that I've done several restarts and reboots today while installing some new software. Mr. Norton has not raised his head since I uninstalled him per your method. Starting to think he really has left and the computer has been successfully exorcised. Eisboch Take that Norton. Glad it worked. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:32:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: Thank you.....I was just suggesting a *fool* proof filter. You know, there is a corollary to the "only an idiot" supposition. To wit: "If you make a system fool proof, somebody will make a better fool." When a better fool is built, I will probably be it. |
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D.Duck wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:32:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: Thank you.....I was just suggesting a *fool* proof filter. You know, there is a corollary to the "only an idiot" supposition. To wit: "If you make a system fool proof, somebody will make a better fool." When a better fool is built, I will probably be it. Pssst...wanna buy an eTec outboard motor? |
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