Cymbals and stuff
 

A few weeks ago there was a discussion in here about cymbals. For those
interested, here's a super link to a guy well established on YouTube. In
the first link he explains his set, with a lot of interesting comments
regarding cymbals.

The second link shows him in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwKPuP-09TA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTM4xoCQqw

Eisboch (rockin' and rollin')

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:28:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


A few weeks ago there was a discussion in here about cymbals. For those
interested, here's a super link to a guy well established on YouTube. In
the first link he explains his set, with a lot of interesting comments
regarding cymbals.

The second link shows him in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwKPuP-09TA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTM4xoCQqw

Eisboch (rockin' and rollin')

Well, that drove the cat off my lap!

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:28:29 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


A few weeks ago there was a discussion in here about cymbals. For those
interested, here's a super link to a guy well established on YouTube. In
the first link he explains his set, with a lot of interesting comments
regarding cymbals.

The second link shows him in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwKPuP-09TA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTM4xoCQqw

Check out the T-shirt.

~~ snerk ~~

Bashing stuff - makes perfect sense. :)

ROCK ON DUDE!!!
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:02:43 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:28:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


A few weeks ago there was a discussion in here about cymbals. For those
interested, here's a super link to a guy well established on YouTube. In
the first link he explains his set, with a lot of interesting comments
regarding cymbals.

The second link shows him in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwKPuP-09TA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTM4xoCQqw

Eisboch (rockin' and rollin')

Well, that drove the cat off my lap!

I'll bet that room is sound proofed to the nines... :)

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Cymbals and stuff
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:02:43 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:28:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


A few weeks ago there was a discussion in here about cymbals. For those
interested, here's a super link to a guy well established on YouTube.
In
the first link he explains his set, with a lot of interesting comments
regarding cymbals.

The second link shows him in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwKPuP-09TA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTM4xoCQqw

Eisboch (rockin' and rollin')

Well, that drove the cat off my lap!

I'll bet that room is sound proofed to the nines... :)

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

House a couple blocks away is home to a porfessional drummer. Has built a
practice room inside the garage. Totally isolated from the garage and
heavily soundproofed. You can barely hear him when the garage is open.

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:07:05 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

House a couple blocks away is home to a porfessional drummer. Has built a
practice room inside the garage. Totally isolated from the garage and
heavily soundproofed. You can barely hear him when the garage is open.

When we bought this house, I went to great lengths to "soundproof" my
office. I filled the walls with foam, replaced the door, modified the
door edges so they seal tight and vented the ceiling in three places
to provide for air pressure changes. I also padded the floor under
the carpet.

When I crank the Mac 50s in combination with the Bozaks, you can just
hear it in the rest of the house - it's not annoying at all to
everybody else in the house, but you can tell when I'm listening to
music at a high volume. At comfortable volumes, you can't hear a
thing which is cool.

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Jan 4, 9:22*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:07:05 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
House a couple blocks away is home to a porfessional drummer. *Has built a
practice room inside the garage. *Totally isolated from the garage and
heavily soundproofed. *You can barely hear him when the garage is open..

When we bought this house, I went to great lengths to "soundproof" my
office. *I filled the walls with foam, replaced the door, modified the
door edges so they seal tight and vented the ceiling in three places
to provide for air pressure changes. *I also padded the floor under
the carpet.

Man, I could use a room like that after I eat my 16 bean stew;)


When I crank the Mac 50s in combination with the Bozaks, you can just
hear it in the rest of the house - it's not annoying at all to
everybody else in the house, but you can tell when I'm listening to
music at a high volume. *At comfortable volumes, you can't hear a
thing which is cool.

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:27:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

When we bought this house, I went to great lengths to "soundproof" my
office. *I filled the walls with foam, replaced the door, modified the
door edges so they seal tight and vented the ceiling in three places
to provide for air pressure changes. *I also padded the floor under
the carpet.

Man, I could use a room like that after I eat my 16 bean stew;)

ROTFLMAO!!!

Tell me - have you done the Dutch Oven trick with Mrs. Minute after
eating that? :)

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Jan 4, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:27:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:
When we bought this house, I went to great lengths to "soundproof" my
office. *I filled the walls with foam, replaced the door, modified the
door edges so they seal tight and vented the ceiling in three places
to provide for air pressure changes. *I also padded the floor under
the carpet.

Man, I could use a room like that after I eat my 16 bean stew;)

ROTFLMAO!!!

Tell me - have you done the Dutch Oven trick with Mrs. Minute after
eating that? *:)

Ummmm, huh?? Er, um..... ... ..... . huh?

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Cymbals and stuff
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...


House a couple blocks away is home to a porfessional drummer. Has built a
practice room inside the garage. Totally isolated from the garage and
heavily soundproofed. You can barely hear him when the garage is open.


I knew a guy who saved (and had all his neighbors save for him) the egg
cartons that a dozen eggs came in at the store. This was back when they
were made of cardboard and not Styrofoam.
He stapled them to the walls, ceiling and inner door surfaces of his
practice room an apartment. Once he had all the surfaces covered, you could
barely hear him anywhere else.

Eisboch

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:34:14 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...


House a couple blocks away is home to a porfessional drummer. Has built a
practice room inside the garage. Totally isolated from the garage and
heavily soundproofed. You can barely hear him when the garage is open.


I knew a guy who saved (and had all his neighbors save for him) the egg
cartons that a dozen eggs came in at the store. This was back when they
were made of cardboard and not Styrofoam.
He stapled them to the walls, ceiling and inner door surfaces of his
practice room an apartment. Once he had all the surfaces covered, you could
barely hear him anywhere else.

Eisboch

They made 12x12 hatchery industry ones, which were the standard of the
audio industry.

Casady

Cymbals and stuff
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:24:18 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:34:14 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...


House a couple blocks away is home to a porfessional drummer. Has
built a
practice room inside the garage. Totally isolated from the garage and
heavily soundproofed. You can barely hear him when the garage is open.


I knew a guy who saved (and had all his neighbors save for him) the egg
cartons that a dozen eggs came in at the store. This was back when they
were made of cardboard and not Styrofoam.
He stapled them to the walls, ceiling and inner door surfaces of his
practice room an apartment. Once he had all the surfaces covered, you
could
barely hear him anywhere else.

Eisboch

They made 12x12 hatchery industry ones, which were the standard of the
audio industry.

Casady

Besides, the egg cartons don't keep sound from being transmitted
outside. They only serve to discourage and dissapate reflected sound
in the room where they are installed. If done to extremes with the
right materials and knowlege, you end up with an anechoic chamber,
which is surprisingly undesirable for a recording studio. Totally dead
is not totally good!


That's a debatable subject among the home theater building crowd.
I built a pretty decent theater in an unused garage in one of the Florida
houses.
Bought some high end speakers, (including an 18" digital Velodyne sub),
constructed a huge screen using screen paint on carefully finished drywall.
The projector was a fairly decent Hitachi.

Anyway, we made the room virtually dead acoustically with carpeting, heavy
drapes and acoustic panels. It was a weird sensation just standing in the
room and talking. If you clapped your hands hard, there was absolutely no
echo.

But, when you played a movie in surround, the room came alive. The theory
behind an acoustically dead room for home theater is that the main, center,
side and rear surround speakers will do all the imaging and the audio will
sound as it was intended to be heard by the producer with no additional
effects introduced by the room acoustics and echo's. Good sound tracks done
in surround have the desired acoustical effects recorded in.

Eisboch

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Cymbals and stuff
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady


Depends on the grass, I have been told.

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Would the type you're smoking have any effect on it?

:)

Cymbals and stuff
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

I've never been in one, but have seen a couple when they were open. One was
at Ball Aerospace, the other at Lockheed Martin. They are used to test
space flight articles before launch.

Eisboch

Cymbals and stuff
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

I've never been in one, but have seen a couple when they were open. One
was at Ball Aerospace, the other at Lockheed Martin. They are used to
test space flight articles before launch.

Eisboch


We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there. It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Cymbals and stuff
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

I've never been in one, but have seen a couple when they were open. One
was at Ball Aerospace, the other at Lockheed Martin. They are used to
test space flight articles before launch.

Eisboch


We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government


Which Bell Labs?

Eisboch

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Are you nuts? There is plenty of echo reflected by water on a lake.

Cymbals and stuff
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

I've never been in one, but have seen a couple when they were open. One
was at Ball Aerospace, the other at Lockheed Martin. They are used to
test space flight articles before launch.

Eisboch


We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for
the government


Which Bell Labs?

Eisboch

The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie, IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:




We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there. It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Were you at Bell up here, Duck?
Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell
on a team developing a new computer language. C.
I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler.
My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes
what - 6-7 years ago?
Geez, how the landscape has changed.

--Vic

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie, IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Old Orchard?
Didn't even know about that Bell location.
Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack?

--Vic

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Are you nut

Not from calm water back toward the boat. No corners no return. In any
case, you can clearly hear the difference. I used to officiate
sailboat races and had a 12 gauge starter gun.

Casady

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:34:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Are you nut

Not from calm water back toward the boat. No corners no return. In any
case, you can clearly hear the difference. I used to officiate
sailboat races and had a 12 gauge starter gun.

I have a funny story about a 12 guage starter gun.

Something to do with holes in a main sail. :)

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Jan 5, 9:00*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:34:09 GMT, (Richard





Casady) wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Are you nut

Not from calm water back toward the boat. No corners no return. In any
case, you can clearly hear the difference. I used to officiate
sailboat races and had a 12 gauge starter gun.

I have a funny story about a 12 guage starter gun.

Something to do with holes in a main sail. *:)

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You did it on purpose.. I hear sailboat hulls make good structure for
fish to hide in..;)

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie,
IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Old Orchard?
Didn't even know about that Bell location.
Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack?

--Vic

Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie.

Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back
seat of the car while in high school. 8)

Cymbals and stuff
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:




We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Were you at Bell up here, Duck?
Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell
on a team developing a new computer language. C.
I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler.
My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes
what - 6-7 years ago?
Geez, how the landscape has changed.

--Vic

Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:03:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie,
IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Old Orchard?
Didn't even know about that Bell location.
Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack?

--Vic

Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie.

Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back
seat of the car while in high school. 8)

Cheap thrills huh?

~~ obligatory obscure cultural reference ~~

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken

Cymbals and stuff
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:34:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Are you nut

Not from calm water back toward the boat. No corners no return. In any
case, you can clearly hear the difference. I used to officiate
sailboat races and had a 12 gauge starter gun.

I have a funny story about a 12 guage starter gun.

Something to do with holes in a main sail. :)

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken

Are you really Barbera from Police Academy?

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:




We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Were you at Bell up here, Duck?
Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell
on a team developing a new computer language. C.
I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler.
My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes
what - 6-7 years ago?
Geez, how the landscape has changed.

Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Cymbals and stuff
 

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:18:30 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:34:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Are you nut

Not from calm water back toward the boat. No corners no return. In any
case, you can clearly hear the difference. I used to officiate
sailboat races and had a 12 gauge starter gun.

I have a funny story about a 12 guage starter gun.

Something to do with holes in a main sail. :)

Are you really Barbera from Police Academy?

No. I am Lord Emporer of All I Survey and THE Supreme Galactic
Overlord in addition to my other duties as Universal Supreme Being.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.


I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.



My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the first
non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in Norfolk.
( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education program).

Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had never
seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six week
school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble the
thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls, shafts,
etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make all the
necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern computers, one
can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse code to 8 bit
teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered computer. It's an
amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40 years or so.

Eisboch

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:03:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie,
IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Old Orchard?
Didn't even know about that Bell location.
Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack?

--Vic

Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie.

Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back
seat of the car while in high school. 8)

Cheap thrills huh?

~~ obligatory obscure cultural reference ~~

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken


2 bucks back in those days wasn't so cheep. Sometimes the thrills weren't
so thrilling.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.


I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.



My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the
first non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in
Norfolk. ( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education
program).

Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had
never seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six
week school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble
the thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls,
shafts, etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make
all the necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern
computers, one can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse
code to 8 bit teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered
computer. It's an amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40
years or so.

Eisboch


Have you ever tried to completely disassemble an Intel Quad Core with it's
millions of transistors? That may not be the hard part but getting it back
together would take more than a squib. Probably would take a Marine.

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:




We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Were you at Bell up here, Duck?
Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell
on a team developing a new computer language. C.
I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler.
My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes
what - 6-7 years ago?
Geez, how the landscape has changed.

Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Yep, you've mentioned it. I had a M28 ASR years ago when I was active.

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:43:51 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:03:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie,
IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Old Orchard?
Didn't even know about that Bell location.
Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack?

--Vic

Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie.

Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back
seat of the car while in high school. 8)

Cheap thrills huh?

~~ obligatory obscure cultural reference ~~

2 bucks back in those days wasn't so cheep. Sometimes the thrills weren't
so thrilling.

Zoom....

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:08:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.

My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the first
non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in Norfolk.
( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education program).

Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had never
seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six week
school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble the
thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls, shafts,
etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make all the
necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern computers, one
can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse code to 8 bit
teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered computer. It's an
amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40 years or so.

I remember one time back in the early sixties, Jean Sheperd (of
"Christmas Story" fame) and my Dad completely tore the machine apart
and put it back together over a weekend.

Damn thing worked fine with the little occasional noises here and
there. :)

I agree with you though - the advances in tech have been truly
amazing. It is interesting though, how the more things change, the
more they stay the same. Watching kids text is just like watching old
time radio or rail telegraph operators - abbreviations every other
word and somehow it all makes sense. :)

To be honest though, the one thing that worries me is this reliance on
digital processing. I still say we're setting ourselves up for a
major commuications melt down and sooner rather than later.

You heard it here first.

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:49:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:




We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Were you at Bell up here, Duck?
Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell
on a team developing a new computer language. C.
I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler.
My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes
what - 6-7 years ago?
Geez, how the landscape has changed.

Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.

Yep, you've mentioned it. I had a M28 ASR years ago when I was active.

I honestly don't know what the model number of Dad's machine was -
all's I know it was huge. It might have been that one - I'll Google
it and see.

Eh - can't say really. I thnk it might have been. Looks similar.

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken

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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:12:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


To be honest though, the one thing that worries me is this reliance on
digital processing. I still say we're setting ourselves up for a
major commuications melt down and sooner rather than later.

You heard it here first.

More than once too.
I'm thinking it goes beyond digital and there is too much reliance on
EMP-sensitive electronics. Even automobiles are dependent on computer
micro-circuitry that's not as robust as what was in them a few years
ago.
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees...as197010_1.HTM

Solar activity or some natural anomaly - the dis-eruption of the
gravitational equalibriums, or some as yet unknown quantum mechanical
type of magnus opus in the physics as we know them for instance -
could wreak havoc in the citizenry. And the public too.
Probably a good backup plan would be to have.....a horse.
Did I already say this? If so, I apologize.

--Vic

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:08:08 -0500, "Eisboch"

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