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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved on out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent fiasco. I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing machine. My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the first non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in Norfolk. ( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education program). Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had never seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six week school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble the thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls, shafts, etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make all the necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern computers, one can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse code to 8 bit teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered computer. It's an amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40 years or so. Eisboch |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:03:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie, IL. Now it's a shopping center? Old Orchard? Didn't even know about that Bell location. Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack? --Vic Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie. Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back seat of the car while in high school. 8) Cheap thrills huh? ~~ obligatory obscure cultural reference ~~ -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken 2 bucks back in those days wasn't so cheep. Sometimes the thrills weren't so thrilling. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved on out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent fiasco. I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing machine. My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the first non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in Norfolk. ( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education program). Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had never seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six week school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble the thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls, shafts, etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make all the necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern computers, one can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse code to 8 bit teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered computer. It's an amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40 years or so. Eisboch Have you ever tried to completely disassemble an Intel Quad Core with it's millions of transistors? That may not be the hard part but getting it back together would take more than a squib. Probably would take a Marine. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there. It was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the government Were you at Bell up here, Duck? Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell on a team developing a new computer language. C. I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler. My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes what - 6-7 years ago? Geez, how the landscape has changed. Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved on out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent fiasco. I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing machine. -- "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt Yep, you've mentioned it. I had a M28 ASR years ago when I was active. |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:43:51 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:03:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie, IL. Now it's a shopping center? Old Orchard? Didn't even know about that Bell location. Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack? --Vic Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie. Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back seat of the car while in high school. 8) Cheap thrills huh? ~~ obligatory obscure cultural reference ~~ 2 bucks back in those days wasn't so cheep. Sometimes the thrills weren't so thrilling. Zoom.... -- "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Theodore Roosevelt. |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:08:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved on out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent fiasco. I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing machine. My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the first non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in Norfolk. ( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education program). Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had never seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six week school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble the thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls, shafts, etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make all the necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern computers, one can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse code to 8 bit teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered computer. It's an amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40 years or so. I remember one time back in the early sixties, Jean Sheperd (of "Christmas Story" fame) and my Dad completely tore the machine apart and put it back together over a weekend. Damn thing worked fine with the little occasional noises here and there. :) I agree with you though - the advances in tech have been truly amazing. It is interesting though, how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Watching kids text is just like watching old time radio or rail telegraph operators - abbreviations every other word and somehow it all makes sense. :) To be honest though, the one thing that worries me is this reliance on digital processing. I still say we're setting ourselves up for a major commuications melt down and sooner rather than later. You heard it here first. -- "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:49:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there. It was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the government Were you at Bell up here, Duck? Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell on a team developing a new computer language. C. I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler. My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes what - 6-7 years ago? Geez, how the landscape has changed. Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved on out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent fiasco. I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing machine. Yep, you've mentioned it. I had a M28 ASR years ago when I was active. I honestly don't know what the model number of Dad's machine was - all's I know it was huge. It might have been that one - I'll Google it and see. Eh - can't say really. I thnk it might have been. Looks similar. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken |
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:12:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: To be honest though, the one thing that worries me is this reliance on digital processing. I still say we're setting ourselves up for a major commuications melt down and sooner rather than later. You heard it here first. More than once too. I'm thinking it goes beyond digital and there is too much reliance on EMP-sensitive electronics. Even automobiles are dependent on computer micro-circuitry that's not as robust as what was in them a few years ago. http://commdocs.house.gov/committees...as197010_1.HTM Solar activity or some natural anomaly - the dis-eruption of the gravitational equalibriums, or some as yet unknown quantum mechanical type of magnus opus in the physics as we know them for instance - could wreak havoc in the citizenry. And the public too. Probably a good backup plan would be to have.....a horse. Did I already say this? If so, I apologize. --Vic |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
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