Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:06 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 12:50 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:05 am, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
Oh, give me a break. Mama Sarah probably told Bristol if she got an
abortion, she'd be tossed out of the house and forced to shack up
somewhere with brilliant boyfriend Levi.
"Probably told"
harry, your speculating in your own fantasy.
Speculating about that family of misfits is fun. What Sarah Palin has
done has resulted in her daughter dropping out of high school and her
future son-in-law giving up the idea of going to college. The daughter
should have gotten an abortion, and stayed in high school. Of course,
the mother should have explained to her daughter how to avoid getting
pregnant.
Harry if that would be your true mode of logic then it would have only
been proper that Democratic Rep. Michael Kernell and his wife should
have had their son David aborted so he wouldn't have become a computer
hacker, being brought up on federal charges for breaking into Palins
email account and therefore causeing shame and embarrassment to his
family as well as the DNC.
yeah, David kernell, a true contributor to society.
Did the Kernell kid get pregnant?
No, but he's an alleged criminal.
So is Dick Cheney.

Teen pregnancy isn't a crime Harry, but computer hacking is.

Cheney is a computer hacker?

When was he arrested? And when was he charged with criminal conduct?
Trial date set?


Sadly, he will likely remain unindicted.

On Dec 31, 2:17*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:06 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 12:50 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:05 am, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
Oh, give me a break. Mama Sarah probably told Bristol if she got an
abortion, she'd be tossed out of the house and forced to shack up
somewhere with brilliant boyfriend Levi.
"Probably told"
harry, your speculating in your own fantasy.
Speculating about that family of misfits is fun. What Sarah Palin has
done has resulted in her daughter dropping out of high school and her
future son-in-law giving up the idea of going to college. The daughter
should have gotten an abortion, and stayed in high school. Of course,
the mother should have explained to her daughter how to avoid getting
pregnant.
Harry if that would be your true mode of logic then it would have only
been proper that Democratic Rep. Michael Kernell and his wife should
have had their son David aborted so he wouldn't have become a computer
hacker, being brought up on federal charges for breaking into Palins
email account and therefore causeing shame and embarrassment to his
family as well as the DNC.
yeah, David kernell, a true contributor to society.
Did the Kernell kid get pregnant?
No, but he's an alleged criminal.
So is Dick Cheney.

Teen pregnancy isn't a crime Harry, but computer hacking is.

Cheney is a computer hacker?

When was he arrested? And when was he charged with criminal conduct?
Trial date set?

Sadly, he will likely remain unindicted.

Well then, legally he's not a criminal.

neither is palin's daughter, but Kernell is.

Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:17 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:06 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 12:50 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:05 am, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
Oh, give me a break. Mama Sarah probably told Bristol if she got an
abortion, she'd be tossed out of the house and forced to shack up
somewhere with brilliant boyfriend Levi.
"Probably told"
harry, your speculating in your own fantasy.
Speculating about that family of misfits is fun. What Sarah Palin has
done has resulted in her daughter dropping out of high school and her
future son-in-law giving up the idea of going to college. The daughter
should have gotten an abortion, and stayed in high school. Of course,
the mother should have explained to her daughter how to avoid getting
pregnant.
Harry if that would be your true mode of logic then it would have only
been proper that Democratic Rep. Michael Kernell and his wife should
have had their son David aborted so he wouldn't have become a computer
hacker, being brought up on federal charges for breaking into Palins
email account and therefore causeing shame and embarrassment to his
family as well as the DNC.
yeah, David kernell, a true contributor to society.
Did the Kernell kid get pregnant?
No, but he's an alleged criminal.
So is Dick Cheney.
Teen pregnancy isn't a crime Harry, but computer hacking is.
Cheney is a computer hacker?
When was he arrested? And when was he charged with criminal conduct?
Trial date set?
Sadly, he will likely remain unindicted.

Well then, legally he's not a criminal.

neither is palin's daughter, but Kernell is.


Indeed, Cheney has not been indicted and convicted, so he's no more a
criminal than OJ is a murderer. The two share the same moral compass.

"Boater" wrote in message
...


Indeed, Cheney has not been indicted and convicted, so he's no more a
criminal than OJ is a murderer. The two share the same moral compass.


I wonder if one has to be actually indicted or convicted to qualify for a
Presidential pardon, or can Bush issue a blanket pardon for anything he
and/or Cheney could possibly be charged with after they leave office.

Eisboch

On Dec 31, 2:35*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:17 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:06 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 12:50 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:05 am, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
Oh, give me a break. Mama Sarah probably told Bristol if she got an
abortion, she'd be tossed out of the house and forced to shack up
somewhere with brilliant boyfriend Levi.
"Probably told"
harry, your speculating in your own fantasy.
Speculating about that family of misfits is fun. What Sarah Palin has
done has resulted in her daughter dropping out of high school and her
future son-in-law giving up the idea of going to college. The daughter
should have gotten an abortion, and stayed in high school. Of course,
the mother should have explained to her daughter how to avoid getting
pregnant.
Harry if that would be your true mode of logic then it would have only
been proper that Democratic Rep. Michael Kernell and his wife should
have had their son David aborted so he wouldn't have become a computer
hacker, being brought up on federal charges for breaking into Palins
email account and therefore causeing shame and embarrassment to his
family as well as the DNC.
yeah, David kernell, a true contributor to society.
Did the Kernell kid get pregnant?
No, but he's an alleged criminal.
So is Dick Cheney.
Teen pregnancy isn't a crime Harry, but computer hacking is.
Cheney is a computer hacker?
When was he arrested? And when was he charged with criminal conduct?
Trial date set?
Sadly, he will likely remain unindicted.

Well then, legally he's not a criminal.

neither is palin's daughter, but Kernell is.

Indeed, Cheney has not been indicted and convicted, so he's no more a
criminal than OJ is a murderer. The two share the same moral compass.

But one is probably behind bars for life, and the other has never had
charges brought on him by anyone for any reason.

Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:35 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:17 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:06 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 12:50 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:05 am, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
Oh, give me a break. Mama Sarah probably told Bristol if she got an
abortion, she'd be tossed out of the house and forced to shack up
somewhere with brilliant boyfriend Levi.
"Probably told"
harry, your speculating in your own fantasy.
Speculating about that family of misfits is fun. What Sarah Palin has
done has resulted in her daughter dropping out of high school and her
future son-in-law giving up the idea of going to college. The daughter
should have gotten an abortion, and stayed in high school. Of course,
the mother should have explained to her daughter how to avoid getting
pregnant.
Harry if that would be your true mode of logic then it would have only
been proper that Democratic Rep. Michael Kernell and his wife should
have had their son David aborted so he wouldn't have become a computer
hacker, being brought up on federal charges for breaking into Palins
email account and therefore causeing shame and embarrassment to his
family as well as the DNC.
yeah, David kernell, a true contributor to society.
Did the Kernell kid get pregnant?
No, but he's an alleged criminal.
So is Dick Cheney.
Teen pregnancy isn't a crime Harry, but computer hacking is.
Cheney is a computer hacker?
When was he arrested? And when was he charged with criminal conduct?
Trial date set?
Sadly, he will likely remain unindicted.
Well then, legally he's not a criminal.
neither is palin's daughter, but Kernell is.
Indeed, Cheney has not been indicted and convicted, so he's no more a
criminal than OJ is a murderer. The two share the same moral compass.

But one is probably behind bars for life, and the other has never had
charges brought on him by anyone for any reason.


That only means he got a pass from the criminal justice system.

Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...


Indeed, Cheney has not been indicted and convicted, so he's no more a
criminal than OJ is a murderer. The two share the same moral compass.


I wonder if one has to be actually indicted or convicted to qualify for
a Presidential pardon, or can Bush issue a blanket pardon for anything
he and/or Cheney could possibly be charged with after they leave office.

Eisboch


Blanket, I believe. Gerry Ford gave Nixon one of those, didn't he?
I'd be happy if Bush gave Cheney one, because it would mean he was
guilty of criminal acts.

I doubt Bush can pardon himself.

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:37:26 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I wonder if one has to be actually indicted or convicted to qualify for
a Presidential pardon, or can Bush issue a blanket pardon for anything
he and/or Cheney could possibly be charged with after they leave office.

Blanket, except it only pertains to federal crimes, and, doesn't pertain
to impeachments. State violations could still be prosecuted.

wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:51:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Indeed, Cheney has not been indicted and convicted, so he's no more a
criminal than OJ is a murderer. The two share the same moral compass.

I wonder if one has to be actually indicted or convicted to qualify for
a Presidential pardon, or can Bush issue a blanket pardon for anything
he and/or Cheney could possibly be charged with after they leave office.

Eisboch

Blanket, I believe. Gerry Ford gave Nixon one of those, didn't he?
I'd be happy if Bush gave Cheney one, because it would mean he was
guilty of criminal acts.

I doubt Bush can pardon himself.


Maybe Bush should pardon Cheney, resign on his way to the capitol and
Cheney could then pardon Bush as his only official act before Obama
was sworn in. I doubt that would bother either one of them, morally.
It would also screw up all of those people hawking "Obama the 44th
president" stuff. I suppose that might make it a real collectors item
tho and not just junk.

That would be lovely. I don't see an Obama DoJ going after either of them.

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:00:34 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 31, 12:42*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:05 am, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
Oh, give me a break. Mama Sarah probably told Bristol if she got an
abortion, she'd be tossed out of the house and forced to shack up
somewhere with brilliant boyfriend Levi.
"Probably told"
harry, your speculating in your own fantasy.
Speculating about that family of misfits is fun. What Sarah Palin has
done has resulted in her daughter dropping out of high school and her
future son-in-law giving up the idea of going to college. The daughter
should have gotten an abortion, and stayed in high school. Of course,
the mother should have explained to her daughter how to avoid getting
pregnant.

Crikey, a zillion years ago when I was in junior high, the school nurse
came to boys and girls gym classes separately and showed a film on human
sexuality and did a presentation on "avoiding pregnancy and disease." It
was a black and white film, too! This had to be in the late 1950s, and
it was *after* my father warned me about "the temptations of girls and
making sure they don't get pregnant."

I blame Sarah Palin for the pregnancy of her teen daughter.

Well this is a milestone.

Finally you're not blaming something on Bush/Cheney.

The Bush brothers have had enough trouble raising their own kids.
Hmmm...what do the Bush brothers and Sarah Palin have in common?
Simple-minded fundie religious beliefs...

After all, the Clintons are pretty liberal, and their kid turned out ok.
Jimmy Carter was sort of liberal, and the Carter kid turned out ok.
Ronald Reagan was a conservative, but not a religious fundie, and his
kids turned out okay.
Gerry Ford and Richard Nixon were moderates, but not religious fundies,
and their kids turned out ok, as did LBJ's daughters and the Kennedy kids.

Obviously, simple-minded religious fundamentalism is bad for kids.

:)

Well let's see. I'm not sure of you draw your opinion on being a
"religious fundie"

And I'm not sure what the clintons belief d'jur is.

Jimmy Carter is a Southern Baptist and a Sunday school teacher
Ronald Reagan was Christian Church (Disciples of Christ.)
Gerald Ford was an elder in the Presbyterian church.
Richard Nixon was a Quaker (Society of Friends)
LBJ was (Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)

Kennedys (Roman Cathoic)
And nothing wrong with RC's.

But now that you mentioned Kennedy's

"John-John" Kennedy Jr. was suspected drunk when the plane he was
piloting crashed into the ocean also killing his wife and sister-in-
law

From: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...h.php#comments

"Heymann also gets toxicologist James C. Gariott, M.D., on record as
saying an analysis of Kennedy's remains suggest Kennedy had "two to
three glasses of wine imbibed in quick succession." Gariott also notes
that "Kennedy's alcohol reading was twice the legal level established
by FAA regulations as the standard for licensed commercial airline
pilots."

Bobby's son David died from a Demerol and cocaine overdose.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Was arrested for possession of heroin and other
controlled substances.

After a hard night of boozing with uncle Ted, William Kennedy Smith,
was accused of raping a woman in Palm Beach, Florida but was
acquitted . Then some nine years later, was facing another (different
than the previous) set of sexual assault allegations, but the charges
are are also dismissed.

Michael Skakel, another nephew of John, Bob, and Ted, is convicted of
the murder of Martha Moxley that he committed when he was a teenager.

You say: "The Bush brothers have had enough trouble raising their own
kids."

Don't know anything about the other brothers, but yeah, W's daughters
partied. Jenna is now married, graduated college, has worked
extensively for UNICEF and is a school teacher and writer.

Barbra Bush WAS charged with a misdemeanor for attempting to use a
fake ID to buy alcohol , also possession of alcohol by a minor, and
plead no contest to the charge.

Now she works for the Cooper-Hewett Design Museum and has done
extensive work throughout Africa with AIDS patients.

Amy Carter was a good kid, and pretty low key after her dads term of
POTUS, that is until she was arrested at a protest rally with Abbey
Hoffman (member of the Chicago 7 and convicted drug dealer) on the
Campus of the U. of Mass. and she got kicked out of Brown University
for poor grades. She's married, has a son, and now works for her
dad's Carter Center.

Comparitivly, the Bush twins fared fairly well.

Just thought you'd like to know that, Harry.

?;^ )

Very good, Tim. Most likely Harry will ignore it as it is too factual.
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** Good Day! **

John H