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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:39:41 -0700, "Charles Momsen"
wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message tanews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause some small measure of grief. You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd. As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right, that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters? The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause some small measure of grief. You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd. As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right, that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters? The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity. Wilbur Hubbard Jonathan is an honorable man. |
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause some small measure of grief. You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd. As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right, that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters? The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity. Wilbur Hubbard Jonathan is an honorable man. Check your spelling. The correct way to spell it is 'homosexual." Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Awwwww! Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think to archive it? Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Awwwww! Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think to archive it? Wilbur Hubbard It's still there, you silly person. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
... troll sh*t removed It's still there, you silly person. I'm telling you... you've got to remember who you're dealing with. Neal is a known liar, a stalker, and a very angry guy. Ignoring him is the ticket. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed It's still there, you silly person. I'm telling you... you've got to remember who you're dealing with. Neal is a known liar, a stalker, and a very angry guy. Ignoring him is the ticket. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com He's right! But don't ignore this: www.sailsea.org No lies! No stalking! Absolutely no anger! Jonathan is an honorable man. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Awwwww! Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think to archive it? Wilbur Hubbard It's still there, you silly person. It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay One then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your internet service provider? NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME. Wilbur Hubbard |
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A.S.A *DROPPED* owing to kook factor there.
It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay One then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your internet service provider? NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME. Wilbur Hubbard So whats the big deal, Wilma? If JG was nuttier than you, he could port knock my IP addy till he's blue in the face without getting anywhere. My ISP wont act on unsubstantiated allegations either. I continue to freely admit I live in London, UK and my IP addy wont localise that any further. If I posted libellous material defaming him or otherwise abused him on the groups he might attempt some sort of action against me with cause, but I leave that sort of sh1t to yourself and your virtual 'friends'. On the few occasions I've commented on a thread JG has been participating in, he has always been perfectly civilized. I bet some NSA geek is ROTFLAO at your antics on one of the proxies they have backdoored :-) Jonathan, if you are still in this cesspool of a thread, Merry Christmass and best wishes for the New Year. Ian ('Stingo' Albacore #1554) |
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