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Tim December 12th 08 02:51 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
HA! AOL drops Usnet, photo hosting, and now MAaffee....


Dear bschnautz,


Recently we wrote to inform you that your subscription to McAfee®
VirusScan® Plus - Special edition from AOL would no longer be a
complimentary benefit of your membership. While your existing software
will continue to operate normally until its license expires, we wanted
to make sure your online security protection is not interrupted.

We’ve negotiated a special price just for our members to upgrade to
McAfee® Internet Security Suite - Special edition from AOL. If you
upgrade now, you’ll pay only $34.99 -- a 13% discount off AOL’s
already low annual rate and a full 50% discount off the regular retail
price.

Internet Security Suite provides our highest level of protection, with
additional safeguards that aren’t included in your existing VirusScan
Plus softwa

Identity-theft protection that helps secure your personal information
Tools to improve your computer’s health and performance
Features to help shield your home network
Though it’s packed with more advanced features, the Internet Security
Suite looks and feels much like your current VirusScan Plus software,
making it easy to set up and use.

With more than 5,000 new online threats discovered every month, you
should not let your computer’s security protection lapse. Upgrade
before December 22, 2008 to take advantage of this special early
upgrade pricing.

Sincerely,

AOL Member Services




©2008 AOL LLC. All Rights Reserved. AOL and the AOL Triangle Logo are
registered trademarks of AOL LLC. All other trademarks and/or
registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.


Mike[_10_] December 12th 08 03:30 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Do people still pay for AOL?

--Mike

"Tim" wrote in message
...
HA! AOL drops Usnet, photo hosting, and now MAaffee....


Dear bschnautz,


Recently we wrote to inform you that your subscription to McAfee®
VirusScan® Plus - Special edition from AOL would no longer be a
complimentary benefit of your membership. While your existing software
will continue to operate normally until its license expires, we wanted
to make sure your online security protection is not interrupted.

We’ve negotiated a special price just for our members to upgrade to
McAfee® Internet Security Suite - Special edition from AOL. If you
upgrade now, you’ll pay only $34.99 -- a 13% discount off AOL’s
already low annual rate and a full 50% discount off the regular retail
price.

Internet Security Suite provides our highest level of protection, with
additional safeguards that aren’t included in your existing VirusScan
Plus softwa

Identity-theft protection that helps secure your personal information
Tools to improve your computer’s health and performance
Features to help shield your home network
Though it’s packed with more advanced features, the Internet Security
Suite looks and feels much like your current VirusScan Plus software,
making it easy to set up and use.

With more than 5,000 new online threats discovered every month, you
should not let your computer’s security protection lapse. Upgrade
before December 22, 2008 to take advantage of this special early
upgrade pricing.

Sincerely,

AOL Member Services




©2008 AOL LLC. All Rights Reserved. AOL and the AOL Triangle Logo are
registered trademarks of AOL LLC. All other trademarks and/or
registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.



BAR[_3_] December 12th 08 03:54 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

Mike wrote:
Do people still pay for AOL?

--Mike

"Tim" wrote in message
...
HA! AOL drops Usnet, photo hosting, and now MAaffee....


Dear bschnautz,


Recently we wrote to inform you that your subscription to McAfee®
VirusScan® Plus - Special edition from AOL would no longer be a
complimentary benefit of your membership. While your existing software
will continue to operate normally until its license expires, we wanted
to make sure your online security protection is not interrupted.

We’ve negotiated a special price just for our members to upgrade to
McAfee® Internet Security Suite - Special edition from AOL. If you
upgrade now, you’ll pay only $34.99 -- a 13% discount off AOL’s
already low annual rate and a full 50% discount off the regular retail
price.

Internet Security Suite provides our highest level of protection, with
additional safeguards that aren’t included in your existing VirusScan
Plus softwa

Identity-theft protection that helps secure your personal information
Tools to improve your computer’s health and performance
Features to help shield your home network
Though it’s packed with more advanced features, the Internet Security
Suite looks and feels much like your current VirusScan Plus software,
making it easy to set up and use.

With more than 5,000 new online threats discovered every month, you
should not let your computer’s security protection lapse. Upgrade
before December 22, 2008 to take advantage of this special early
upgrade pricing.

Sincerely,

AOL Member Services




©2008 AOL LLC. All Rights Reserved. AOL and the AOL Triangle Logo are
registered trademarks of AOL LLC. All other trademarks and/or
registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.



[email protected] December 12th 08 03:58 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Dec 11, 10:54*pm, BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?



Mike wrote:
Do people still pay for AOL?


--Mike


"Tim" wrote in message
....
HA! AOL drops Usnet, photo hosting, and *now MAaffee....


Dear bschnautz,


Recently we wrote to inform you that your subscription to McAfee®
VirusScan® Plus - Special edition from AOL would no longer be a
complimentary benefit of your membership. While your existing software
will continue to operate normally until its license expires, we wanted
to make sure your online security protection is not interrupted.


We’ve negotiated a special price just for our members to upgrade to
McAfee® Internet Security Suite - Special edition from AOL. If you
upgrade now, you’ll pay only $34.99 -- a 13% discount off AOL’s
already low annual rate and a full 50% discount off the regular retail
price.


Internet Security Suite provides our highest level of protection, with
additional safeguards that aren’t included in your existing VirusScan
Plus softwa


Identity-theft protection that helps secure your personal information
Tools to improve your computer’s health and performance
Features to help shield your home network
Though it’s packed with more advanced features, the Internet Security
Suite looks and feels much like your current VirusScan Plus software,
making it easy to set up and use.


With more than 5,000 new online threats discovered every month, you
should not let your computer’s security protection lapse. Upgrade
before December 22, 2008 to take advantage of this special early
upgrade pricing.


Sincerely,


AOL Member Services


©2008 AOL LLC. All Rights Reserved. AOL and the AOL Triangle Logo are
registered trademarks of AOL LLC. All other trademarks and/or
registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Crap, it was in the 90's when I was building computers for Archetects
and installing POS (point of sale) systems for business. I had a
specific clause in the contract for service that if AOL was installed
on the system, it voided the service contract completely... ;) My
mother however kept it in her system till the day she died, I could
not cancel her contract :)

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 12th 08 04:18 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.

BAR[_3_] December 12th 08 04:28 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.


A moment of ignorance.


Wayne.B December 12th 08 05:41 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL


Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.


Mike[_10_] December 12th 08 07:00 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

Ahhh, how soon we forget.

Before Netscape brought us the WWW, there were few options to get "online."
Online was either BBS's, or services like Compuserve, or GEnie. Then came
along AOL, and with their marketing blitz took over the "online" world. That
was until the WWW was unleashed via Netscape.

There was a point when the easiest way to get "online" was to subscribe to
AOL. Those days are LONG gone, so I wonder why anyone still pays for AOL.

--Mike


"BAR" wrote in message
...
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

Mike wrote:
Do people still pay for AOL?

--Mike

"Tim" wrote in message
...
HA! AOL drops Usnet, photo hosting, and now MAaffee....


Dear bschnautz,


Recently we wrote to inform you that your subscription to McAfee®
VirusScan® Plus - Special edition from AOL would no longer be a
complimentary benefit of your membership. While your existing software
will continue to operate normally until its license expires, we wanted
to make sure your online security protection is not interrupted.

We’ve negotiated a special price just for our members to upgrade to
McAfee® Internet Security Suite - Special edition from AOL. If you
upgrade now, you’ll pay only $34.99 -- a 13% discount off AOL’s
already low annual rate and a full 50% discount off the regular retail
price.

Internet Security Suite provides our highest level of protection, with
additional safeguards that aren’t included in your existing VirusScan
Plus softwa

Identity-theft protection that helps secure your personal information
Tools to improve your computer’s health and performance
Features to help shield your home network
Though it’s packed with more advanced features, the Internet Security
Suite looks and feels much like your current VirusScan Plus software,
making it easy to set up and use.

With more than 5,000 new online threats discovered every month, you
should not let your computer’s security protection lapse. Upgrade
before December 22, 2008 to take advantage of this special early
upgrade pricing.

Sincerely,

AOL Member Services




©2008 AOL LLC. All Rights Reserved. AOL and the AOL Triangle Logo are
registered trademarks of AOL LLC. All other trademarks and/or
registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.



Mike[_10_] December 12th 08 07:02 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:54:38 -0500, BAR wrote:

Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL, before there really
was an internet, from the consumer standpoint. It was all proprietary
software and captive content. Other than that you just had local BBS
services. If you traveled you wanted something with national coverage.
It still is about the most stable ISP. The rest came and went with too
much frequency to actually give anyone your Email address and have it
be useful a year later. Even now I can still use my 15 year old AOL
address but my Mediaone address is dead, as is the successor
Roadrunner (ended up Comcast), Sprint then Earthlink, ended up Embarq.
and a half dozen other places that I had accounts with. (RIP)

The software stopped being stable when they incorporated Internet
Explorer as the browser and W/9x. Prior to that it was rock solid. I
used to use the W/3.1 version to test communication on machines that
had suspected software problems since it didn't have to be "installed"
and it would run straight from a diskette.


Before Prodigy and AOL there was Compuserve and GEnie. Same stuff, just
earlier.

--Mike



Mike[_10_] December 12th 08 07:02 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL


Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.


I should read responses before I reply. ;-)

--mike



Mike[_10_] December 12th 08 07:04 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL.

Yep but if your company wasn't paying the bill it was way too
expensive for most mortals and they didn't have much in the way of
entertainment services. I had Prodigy pretty much from day 1 (IBM
subsidized it for us) They had great content for the day.
I got AOL very early on because my wife's family were on it. I think
they had an IBEW deal. I really didn't use it myself but my wife used
Email a lot to talk to the folks up north. I did start using this as
my Email when I left IBM in 96. It was easy for people since my IBM
address was gfretwel@atlvmic1 on the VM system
When Prodigy dropped the "Classic" service, I dropped them.
I still keep this AOL account but I think it will go away soon, when I
get my own domain. That way I will own my Email address. It will take
a while to get the word out tho, since I have had this as my primary
address for so long.


Compuserve wasn't that bad if you watched yourself. I was a subscriber from
1982 - 2000. The latter 6 years were free since I was a sysop on one of
their more popular forums.

--Mike



[email protected] December 12th 08 09:03 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Dec 11, 11:18*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?


The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.


The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................

Tom Francis - SWSports December 12th 08 11:17 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL


Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.


Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.

[email protected] December 12th 08 11:25 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:30:27 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

Do people still pay for AOL?

--Mike


Only idiots who don't know any better.

BAR[_3_] December 12th 08 12:10 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL.

Yep but if your company wasn't paying the bill it was way too
expensive for most mortals and they didn't have much in the way of
entertainment services. I had Prodigy pretty much from day 1 (IBM
subsidized it for us) They had great content for the day.
I got AOL very early on because my wife's family were on it. I think
they had an IBEW deal. I really didn't use it myself but my wife used
Email a lot to talk to the folks up north. I did start using this as
my Email when I left IBM in 96. It was easy for people since my IBM
address was gfretwel@atlvmic1 on the VM system
When Prodigy dropped the "Classic" service, I dropped them.
I still keep this AOL account but I think it will go away soon, when I
get my own domain. That way I will own my Email address. It will take
a while to get the word out tho, since I have had this as my primary
address for so long.



You won't be owning your e-mail address, you will be renting it from ICANN.

John[_6_] December 12th 08 12:12 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:03:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 11, 11:18*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?


The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.


The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................


You and Harry make a great pair.

Pick a religion and go for it.
--
John

BAR[_3_] December 12th 08 12:12 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL

Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.


Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.


Was this the profit himself, Edson?


HK December 12th 08 12:22 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:03:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.

The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................


You and Harry make a great pair.

Pick a religion and go for it.



You are more than a bit over the edge this morning, Herring.
Are you now accusing me of being anti-Semitic? I have nothing against
Christianity, by the way, but I have no respect for assholes like you
who claim to be Christians but whose behavior says otherwise.



Jim December 12th 08 12:31 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
HK wrote:
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:03:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.
The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................


You and Harry make a great pair.
Pick a religion and go for it.



You are more than a bit over the edge this morning, Herring.
Are you now accusing me of being anti-Semitic? I have nothing against
Christianity, by the way, but I have no respect for assholes like you
who claim to be Christians but whose behavior says otherwise.


And your behavior is condoned by what religion? WAFA

Tom Francis - SWSports December 12th 08 12:33 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:12:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL
Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.


Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.


Was this the profit himself, Edson?


Actually no - although it wouldn't have surprised me if he didn't feel
the same way.

It was Ken Olsen.

John[_6_] December 12th 08 12:43 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:31:26 -0500, Jim wrote:

HK wrote:
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:03:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.
The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................

You and Harry make a great pair.
Pick a religion and go for it.



You are more than a bit over the edge this morning, Herring.
Are you now accusing me of being anti-Semitic? I have nothing against
Christianity, by the way, but I have no respect for assholes like you
who claim to be Christians but whose behavior says otherwise.


And your behavior is condoned by what religion? WAFA


He seems to skip over that question.
--
John

HK December 12th 08 12:49 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:31:26 -0500, Jim wrote:

HK wrote:
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:03:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.
The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................
You and Harry make a great pair.
Pick a religion and go for it.

You are more than a bit over the edge this morning, Herring.
Are you now accusing me of being anti-Semitic? I have nothing against
Christianity, by the way, but I have no respect for assholes like you
who claim to be Christians but whose behavior says otherwise.


And your behavior is condoned by what religion? WAFA


He seems to skip over that question.




Wow...someone quoted florida jim. I'll bet like you he claims to be a
Christian, too, even though he behaves otherwise.

Jim December 12th 08 01:19 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
HK wrote:
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:31:26 -0500, Jim wrote:

HK wrote:
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:03:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.
The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................
You and Harry make a great pair.
Pick a religion and go for it.

You are more than a bit over the edge this morning, Herring.
Are you now accusing me of being anti-Semitic? I have nothing
against Christianity, by the way, but I have no respect for assholes
like you who claim to be Christians but whose behavior says otherwise.


And your behavior is condoned by what religion? WAFA


He seems to skip over that question.




Wow...someone quoted florida jim. I'll bet like you he claims to be a
Christian, too, even though he behaves otherwise.


What religion condones your behavior?

[email protected] December 12th 08 01:21 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Dec 11, 10:58*pm, wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:54*pm, BAR wrote:





Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?


Mike wrote:
Do people still pay for AOL?


--Mike


"Tim" wrote in message
....
HA! AOL drops Usnet, photo hosting, and *now MAaffee....


Dear bschnautz,


Recently we wrote to inform you that your subscription to McAfee®
VirusScan® Plus - Special edition from AOL would no longer be a
complimentary benefit of your membership. While your existing software
will continue to operate normally until its license expires, we wanted
to make sure your online security protection is not interrupted.


We’ve negotiated a special price just for our members to upgrade to
McAfee® Internet Security Suite - Special edition from AOL. If you
upgrade now, you’ll pay only $34.99 -- a 13% discount off AOL’s
already low annual rate and a full 50% discount off the regular retail
price.


Internet Security Suite provides our highest level of protection, with
additional safeguards that aren’t included in your existing VirusScan
Plus softwa


Identity-theft protection that helps secure your personal information
Tools to improve your computer’s health and performance
Features to help shield your home network
Though it’s packed with more advanced features, the Internet Security
Suite looks and feels much like your current VirusScan Plus software,
making it easy to set up and use.


With more than 5,000 new online threats discovered every month, you
should not let your computer’s security protection lapse. Upgrade
before December 22, 2008 to take advantage of this special early
upgrade pricing.


Sincerely,


AOL Member Services


©2008 AOL LLC. All Rights Reserved. AOL and the AOL Triangle Logo are
registered trademarks of AOL LLC. All other trademarks and/or
registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Crap, it was in the 90's when I was building computers for Archetects
and installing POS (point of sale) systems for business. I had a
specific clause in the contract for service that if AOL was installed
on the system, it voided the service contract completely... ;) *My
mother however kept it in her system till the day she died, I could
not cancel her contract :)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Way, WAY back I had an aol account. It took forever and a day to
cancel that crap. I'm telling you, they make it almost impossible.

BAR[_3_] December 12th 08 01:25 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:12:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL
Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.
Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.

Was this the profit himself, Edson?


Actually no - although it wouldn't have surprised me if he didn't feel
the same way.

It was Ken Olsen.


A member of the where are they now companies.

HK December 12th 08 01:33 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:12:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL
Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.
Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.
Was this the profit himself, Edson?


Actually no - although it wouldn't have surprised me if he didn't feel
the same way.

It was Ken Olsen.


A member of the where are they now companies.



Olsen is well-known. He may be a "was" but you are a never were and
never will be.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 12th 08 04:07 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL


Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.


It is a problem with most leaders in any industry, they become
complacent and don't adapt well to changes. Bill Gates has stated for
15 yrs of so, that his biggest fear concerning Microsoft was that they
would fail to adapt quickly in a rapidly changing marketing place.
Large companies become like a supertanker, very difficult and slow when
they want to change directions. The way they handled Vista is an
example of this problem. I want MS to have strong and viable
competition, but I would hate to see them go out of business. Millions
of of long term Windows supporters have decide Mac is superior to
Windows (including Harry. Vista's most vocal supporter). They are also
willing to pay a substantial upcharge for a Mac, it highlights the
real and perceived problems of Windows. If they don't' change their
"bull in a china shop" approach to marketing, they will become another
Prodigy, Compuserve and AOL.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 12th 08 04:09 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL.

Yep but if your company wasn't paying the bill it was way too
expensive for most mortals and they didn't have much in the way of
entertainment services. I had Prodigy pretty much from day 1 (IBM
subsidized it for us) They had great content for the day.
I got AOL very early on because my wife's family were on it. I think
they had an IBEW deal. I really didn't use it myself but my wife used
Email a lot to talk to the folks up north. I did start using this as
my Email when I left IBM in 96. It was easy for people since my IBM
address was gfretwel@atlvmic1 on the VM system
When Prodigy dropped the "Classic" service, I dropped them.
I still keep this AOL account but I think it will go away soon, when I
get my own domain. That way I will own my Email address. It will take
a while to get the word out tho, since I have had this as my primary
address for so long.


You don't need to pay for an AOL account to have AOL email. I would
check and verify that you can keep the same email address even if you
drop their service.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 12th 08 04:11 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
wrote:
On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.


The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................


We are more creative than that. Only an Italian Mobster would make that
mistake. ;)


[email protected] December 12th 08 04:18 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Dec 12, 11:11*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.


The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................


We are more creative than that. *Only an Italian Mobster would make that
mistake. *;)


LOL....

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 12th 08 04:19 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
HK wrote:
John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:03:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.
The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................


You and Harry make a great pair.
Pick a religion and go for it.



You are more than a bit over the edge this morning, Herring.
Are you now accusing me of being anti-Semitic? I have nothing against
Christianity, by the way, but I have no respect for assholes like you
who claim to be Christians but whose behavior says otherwise.



Harry, actually you hate everyone equally. It doesn't matter what their
religion is. You only make derogatory comments about someone's religion
if you think it will touch a nerve and make your insult more effective.

Your behavior is far worse than any of the Christians you like to insult
and you realize it. In your mind, is it acceptable to be rec.boats
most vile individual because you are not a Christian?




Tom Francis - SWSports December 12th 08 04:39 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:25:47 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:12:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL
Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.
Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.
Was this the profit himself, Edson?


Actually no - although it wouldn't have surprised me if he didn't feel
the same way.

It was Ken Olsen.


A member of the where are they now companies.


ROTFL!!

Amazing isn't it? We thought we were kings. :)

Tim December 12th 08 04:39 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Dec 12, 10:11*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
BAR wrote:
Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
The question is why did Time Warner buy AOL.


The Jews needed to hide some money from the IRS...................


We are more creative than that. *Only an Italian Mobster would make that
mistake. *;)


Or, possibly a Governor from ILL-annoy

Calif Bill December 12th 08 08:00 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL.

Yep but if your company wasn't paying the bill it was way too
expensive for most mortals and they didn't have much in the way of
entertainment services. I had Prodigy pretty much from day 1 (IBM
subsidized it for us) They had great content for the day.
I got AOL very early on because my wife's family were on it. I think
they had an IBEW deal. I really didn't use it myself but my wife used
Email a lot to talk to the folks up north. I did start using this as
my Email when I left IBM in 96. It was easy for people since my IBM
address was gfretwel@atlvmic1 on the VM system
When Prodigy dropped the "Classic" service, I dropped them.
I still keep this AOL account but I think it will go away soon, when I
get my own domain. That way I will own my Email address. It will take
a while to get the word out tho, since I have had this as my primary
address for so long.


I had a bunch of email addresses from different companies I worked for, but
have kept the netcom address for years. When I did consulting, was good to
not have to change emails. Earthlink is the final owner, but though at
least 4 companies, they have kept the old email address valid.



Calif Bill December 12th 08 08:01 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:54:38 -0500, BAR wrote:

Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL, before there really
was an internet, from the consumer standpoint. It was all proprietary
software and captive content. Other than that you just had local BBS
services. If you traveled you wanted something with national coverage.
It still is about the most stable ISP. The rest came and went with too
much frequency to actually give anyone your Email address and have it
be useful a year later. Even now I can still use my 15 year old AOL
address but my Mediaone address is dead, as is the successor
Roadrunner (ended up Comcast), Sprint then Earthlink, ended up Embarq.
and a half dozen other places that I had accounts with. (RIP)

The software stopped being stable when they incorporated Internet
Explorer as the browser and W/9x. Prior to that it was rock solid. I
used to use the W/3.1 version to test communication on machines that
had suspected software problems since it didn't have to be "installed"
and it would run straight from a diskette.


Before Prodigy and AOL there was Compuserve and GEnie. Same stuff, just
earlier.

--Mike


Actually there was ARPA net for a lot of us.



[email protected] December 12th 08 10:47 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Dec 12, 3:01*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...







wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:54:38 -0500, BAR wrote:


Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL, before there really
was an internet, from the consumer standpoint. It was all proprietary
software and captive content. Other than that you just had local BBS
services. If you traveled you wanted something with national coverage.
It still is about the most stable ISP. The rest came and went with too
much frequency to actually give anyone your Email address and have it
be useful a year later. Even now I can still use my 15 year old AOL
address but my Mediaone address is dead, as is the successor
Roadrunner (ended up Comcast), Sprint then Earthlink, ended up Embarq.
and a half dozen other places that I had accounts with. *(RIP)


The software stopped being stable when they incorporated Internet
Explorer as the browser and W/9x. Prior to that it was rock solid. *I
used to use the W/3.1 version to test communication on machines that
had suspected software problems since it didn't have to be "installed"
and it would run straight from a diskette.


Before Prodigy and AOL there was Compuserve and GEnie. Same stuff, just
earlier.


--Mike


Actually there was ARPA net for a lot of us.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That ran off of heated rocks and bronze, didn't it?!!!!!

BAR[_3_] December 13th 08 12:46 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:12:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL
Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.
Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.
Was this the profit himself, Edson?

Actually no - although it wouldn't have surprised me if he didn't feel
the same way.

It was Ken Olsen.


A member of the where are they now companies.



Olsen is well-known. He may be a "was" but you are a never were and
never will be.


I don't try to be anything more than I was or am. I know this is a
foreign concept to you but others will understand.


BAR[_3_] December 13th 08 12:57 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:25:47 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:12:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0500, wrote:

There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL
Let us not forget Compuserve which was there *long* before Prodigy or
AOL. Compuserve had the very best national and international dial-up
network, EMAIL and many valuable support forums and databases. They
could have easily converted their proprietaty screen formats to HTML
and web based presentation but they didn't see the need for it.
Heh - reminds me of a certain computer company executive who told me
that email would never become a mass market feature for the home
computer because the routing systems would be too complex, too
expensive to build and besides, telephones were easier.
Was this the profit himself, Edson?
Actually no - although it wouldn't have surprised me if he didn't feel
the same way.

It was Ken Olsen.

A member of the where are they now companies.


ROTFL!!

Amazing isn't it? We thought we were kings. :)


I asked a 68000 ICE (in circuit emulator) sales guy one time why I had
to buy a $55K MicroVAX II to run his $8K ICE when I had all of these $3K
PCs? He couldn't come up with a good answer. WE bought the MicroVAX II.

When superior technology meets superior marketing who wins?

BAR[_3_] December 13th 08 12:57 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:54:38 -0500, BAR wrote:

Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL, before there really
was an internet, from the consumer standpoint. It was all proprietary
software and captive content. Other than that you just had local BBS
services. If you traveled you wanted something with national coverage.
It still is about the most stable ISP. The rest came and went with too
much frequency to actually give anyone your Email address and have it
be useful a year later. Even now I can still use my 15 year old AOL
address but my Mediaone address is dead, as is the successor
Roadrunner (ended up Comcast), Sprint then Earthlink, ended up Embarq.
and a half dozen other places that I had accounts with. (RIP)

The software stopped being stable when they incorporated Internet
Explorer as the browser and W/9x. Prior to that it was rock solid. I
used to use the W/3.1 version to test communication on machines that
had suspected software problems since it didn't have to be "installed"
and it would run straight from a diskette.

Before Prodigy and AOL there was Compuserve and GEnie. Same stuff, just
earlier.

--Mike


Actually there was ARPA net for a lot of us.


Which host were you?



Tom Francis - SWSports December 13th 08 01:28 AM

I'm surprised they haven't tanked already.
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:01:17 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message
. ..

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:54:38 -0500, BAR wrote:

Why did anyone ever pay for AOL?
There was a time when it was only Prodigy and AOL, before there really
was an internet, from the consumer standpoint. It was all proprietary
software and captive content. Other than that you just had local BBS
services. If you traveled you wanted something with national coverage.
It still is about the most stable ISP. The rest came and went with too
much frequency to actually give anyone your Email address and have it
be useful a year later. Even now I can still use my 15 year old AOL
address but my Mediaone address is dead, as is the successor
Roadrunner (ended up Comcast), Sprint then Earthlink, ended up Embarq.
and a half dozen other places that I had accounts with. (RIP)

The software stopped being stable when they incorporated Internet
Explorer as the browser and W/9x. Prior to that it was rock solid. I
used to use the W/3.1 version to test communication on machines that
had suspected software problems since it didn't have to be "installed"
and it would run straight from a diskette.


Before Prodigy and AOL there was Compuserve and GEnie. Same stuff, just
earlier.


Actually there was ARPA net for a lot of us.


Heh - In '78, I was at BBN working on a joint project for the US Navy
(which is how I met Admn. Grace Hooper who was there consulting with
BBN on a DEC implementation) and as it happened, Ray Tomlinson was
involved in our project. I asked him point blank if he really didn't
know what he sent as the first remote email message and he grinned and
said he didn't have a clue.

I was told later on by somebody who was, in theory "in the know", that
it was a very naughty joke. :)


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