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Boater[_3_] December 1st 08 07:20 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...



JohnH[_4_] December 1st 08 07:27 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

[email protected] December 1st 08 07:39 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 2:27*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater wrote:
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)


24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body


Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.


SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry doesn't do any photo manipulation, he'd rather see just what the
eye sees, no matter if it's washed out, or what. All he needs to do
that is a $100 point and shoot.

Calif Bill December 1st 08 07:41 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...



I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. But he makes his
living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate annual
reports where they need high quality photos. Most of his pics are stored on
the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or greater. The
rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.



Boater[_3_] December 1st 08 07:50 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...



I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. But he makes his
living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate annual
reports where they need high quality photos. Most of his pics are stored on
the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or greater. The
rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.



Really? Most of the pros I know use larger format cameras for large-page
annual reports and other publications where the highest quality is
required. Hasselblads rule. Nothing wrong with 35mm frame size, of
course, but bigger images are better, quality-wise.


[email protected] December 1st 08 08:05 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 2:50*pm, Boater wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)


24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body


Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.


SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. *But he makes his
living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate annual
reports where they need high quality photos. *Most of his pics are stored on
the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or greater. *The
rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.


Really? Most of the pros I know use larger format cameras for large-page
annual reports and other publications where the highest quality is
required. *Hasselblads rule. Nothing wrong with 35mm frame size, of
course, but bigger images are better, quality-wise.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not necessarily.

[email protected] December 1st 08 08:14 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 2:20*pm, Boater wrote:
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


Dont know this as written fact....but I've heard the eye cant see past
8 megapixels......

Tim December 1st 08 08:43 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 1:27*pm, JohnH wrote:


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!

?;^ )

[email protected] December 1st 08 08:43 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 3:14*pm, wrote:
On Dec 1, 2:20*pm, Boater wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)


24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body


Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.


SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


Dont know this as written fact....but I've heard the eye cant see past
8 megapixels......


Bigger meg allows larger prints to be sharper.

[email protected] December 1st 08 08:45 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 3:43*pm, Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:27*pm, JohnH wrote:



Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!

?;^ )


I'm impressed! You are actually using a fairly modern technology!

Tim December 1st 08 08:51 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 1:20*pm, Boater wrote:
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

And that's probably cheap compared to what this cost back in the late
50's

http://www.blueangels.org/History/Colorama/Kcamera.jpg

Tim December 1st 08 08:56 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 2:45*pm, wrote:
On Dec 1, 3:43*pm, Tim wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:27*pm, JohnH wrote:
Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!


?;^ )


I'm impressed! You are actually using a fairly modern technology!


Well Loog, that's about as "point 'n shoot" as you can get!

?;^ Q



JohnH[_4_] December 1st 08 08:59 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:43:42 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:27*pm, JohnH wrote:


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!

?;^ )


What's happenin' with the Fuji? Haven't heard from you in a while.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Tim December 1st 08 09:04 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 2:59*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:43:42 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:27*pm, JohnH wrote:


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!


?;^ )


What's happenin' with the Fuji? Haven't heard from you in a while.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


Oh, weekend got tied up, John. Nothing unpleasant though.

Daughter was headed back to college sunday afternoon and I had loose-
end errands to do with her.

I'll try to resume tonight or so.

Don White December 1st 08 09:19 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 2:59 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:43:42 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:27 pm, JohnH wrote:


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less
than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!


?;^ )


What's happenin' with the Fuji? Haven't heard from you in a while.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


Oh, weekend got tied up, John. Nothing unpleasant though.

Daughter was headed back to college sunday afternoon and I had loose-
end errands to do with her.

I'll try to resume tonight or so.
************************************************** *************************************************

All this talk of older film cameras is making me interested in buying some
120 film and running it through my Yashica D soon
http://mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/yashica_d.html



Tim December 1st 08 09:25 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 3:19*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 1, 2:59 pm, JohnH wrote:





On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:43:42 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:27 pm, JohnH wrote:


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less
than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!


?;^ )


What's happenin' with the Fuji? Haven't heard from you in a while.
--
John H


*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


Oh, weekend got tied up, John. Nothing unpleasant though.

Daughter was headed back to college sunday afternoon and I had loose-
end errands to do with her.

I'll try to resume tonight or so.
************************************************** **************************************************

All this talk of older film cameras is making me interested in buying some
120 film and running it through my Yashica D soonhttp://mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/yashica_d.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's my plan too, Don. the 616's and dads roleicords.


Calif Bill December 1st 08 09:51 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...



I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. But he makes
his living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate
annual reports where they need high quality photos. Most of his pics are
stored on the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or
greater. The rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.


Really? Most of the pros I know use larger format cameras for large-page
annual reports and other publications where the highest quality is
required. Hasselblads rule. Nothing wrong with 35mm frame size, of
course, but bigger images are better, quality-wise.


Guy has not shot film in years. All digital.



Calif Bill December 1st 08 09:51 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 1:27 pm, JohnH wrote:


Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!

?;^ )

Too expensive. When you figure in the film processing costs.



Tim December 1st 08 10:11 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 3:51*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 1, 1:27 pm, JohnH wrote:



Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--


Yeah, like me. $4.95 Kodak disposables!

?;^ )

Too expensive. *When you figure in the film processing costs.


maybe true, but the subject was for "less than $1000.00". Besides the
initial start up fees are minimal.

?:^ 0

Eisboch December 1st 08 10:28 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Boater" wrote in message
...


About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...



I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. But he makes his
living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate
annual reports where they need high quality photos. Most of his pics are
stored on the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or
greater. The rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.


The Navy has a website that I visit once in a while called Navy Newstand,
"Eyes on the Fleet".
The main page has a search field in the upper right that you can put in a
specific ship or command
and get recent photos. They have several levels of quality, including an
option to download a "High Rez"
image of the picture of interest. I've noticed that virtually all the
photos (taken by Navy Photographer's Mates" are done with a Nikon D2X.
Some of them, particularly the ones taken at sea, are spectacular.

I posted an example on my website (link below). It's of the homecoming of
the USS Harry S Truman in Norfolk after their last Persian Gulf deployment.
If it displays the way it does on my computer, the image should show up with
a little magnifying glass with a + sign in it. If you click on the image
with the + sign, it should expand out to full size. If you download it into
a photo viewing program, it's amazing how much you can zoom it before it
starts to get pixulated. Pixilated? Blurry? It's already degraded
somewhat simply by the conversion to a .jpg.

I can't believe the clarity the D2X does, remembering that it's a digital
camera. I wonder how much better the D3X is. Here's the link:

http://www.eisboch.com/Truman1.jpg

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 1st 08 10:58 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Eisboch wrote:


I posted an example on my website (link below). It's of the homecoming of
the USS Harry S Truman in Norfolk after their last Persian Gulf deployment.
If it displays the way it does on my computer, the image should show up with
a little magnifying glass with a + sign in it. If you click on the image
with the + sign, it should expand out to full size. If you download it into
a photo viewing program, it's amazing how much you can zoom it before it
starts to get pixulated. Pixilated? Blurry? It's already degraded
somewhat simply by the conversion to a .jpg.

I can't believe the clarity the D2X does, remembering that it's a digital
camera. I wonder how much better the D3X is. Here's the link:

http://www.eisboch.com/Truman1.jpg

Eisboch


Aperture was f9, yet was was sharp up close and on the bridge. Very
nice. If you notice, he had the White balance set on cloudy, even
though it was a sunny day. It made the photo more saturated than it
really and made the colors pop and vibrant.

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 1st 08 11:44 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. But he makes
his living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate
annual reports where they need high quality photos. Most of his pics are
stored on the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or
greater. The rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.

Really? Most of the pros I know use larger format cameras for large-page
annual reports and other publications where the highest quality is
required. Hasselblads rule. Nothing wrong with 35mm frame size, of
course, but bigger images are better, quality-wise.


Guy has not shot film in years. All digital.


I just ordered this for my back up camera
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Camera.ht ml



Tom Francis - SWSports December 1st 08 11:45 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.


Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.

Besides, this is just a rehash of the 35mm film tech - big whoop.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


For what - I have trouble finding things to shoot with my Hasselblad
which cost less and is a hell of a lot better camera.

39.1 Megapixel in 220 can produce gigabyte images.

Too large for the average photographer.

Boater[_3_] December 1st 08 11:50 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both
feet into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the
current ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. But he
makes his living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are
Corporate annual reports where they need high quality photos. Most
of his pics are stored on the computer hooked up to the camera and
are 200 mbytes or greater. The rest of us use the $1000 or less
Nikon SLR.
Really? Most of the pros I know use larger format cameras for
large-page annual reports and other publications where the highest
quality is required. Hasselblads rule. Nothing wrong with 35mm frame
size, of course, but bigger images are better, quality-wise.


Guy has not shot film in years. All digital.


I just ordered this for my back up camera
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Camera.ht ml





When you charge $3000 a day plus %500 a day for an assistant, plus
expenses, which is what the Left Coast photographer I use charges, you
can afford whatever you want. The woman I hire out there for commercial
photography uses Hasselblad film cameras, as does the architectural
photographer I hire. In fact, for cover shots, he uses a 4x5 film
camera. They shoot transparency film. For Q&D shots, though, they do use
digital Nikons or Canons.


Boater[_3_] December 1st 08 11:53 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.


Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.


Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture" a
larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)



JohnH[_4_] December 1st 08 11:53 PM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:44:24 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.

SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. But he makes
his living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate
annual reports where they need high quality photos. Most of his pics are
stored on the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or
greater. The rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.
Really? Most of the pros I know use larger format cameras for large-page
annual reports and other publications where the highest quality is
required. Hasselblads rule. Nothing wrong with 35mm frame size, of
course, but bigger images are better, quality-wise.


Guy has not shot film in years. All digital.


I just ordered this for my back up camera
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Camera.ht ml


You shoulda asked. I coulda saved you a bundle.

http://tinyurl.com/55pdh6
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Tom Francis - SWSports December 2nd 08 12:10 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.


Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.


Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture" a
larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)


Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.

Boater[_3_] December 2nd 08 12:13 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.

Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture" a
larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)


Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.



It's hard to rule the world with a 1% market penetration, which is about
what 4/3rds has now, and eTec has yet to achieve. :)

Tim December 2nd 08 12:17 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Dec 1, 5:44*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)


24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body


Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.


SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...


I have a friend who would be the one to buy this camera. *But he makes
his living as a professional photographer, and lots of his are Corporate
annual reports where they need high quality photos. *Most of his pics are
stored on the computer hooked up to the camera and are 200 mbytes or
greater. *The rest of us use the $1000 or less Nikon SLR.
Really? Most of the pros I know use larger format cameras for large-page
annual reports and other publications where the highest quality is
required. *Hasselblads rule. Nothing wrong with 35mm frame size, of
course, but bigger images are better, quality-wise.


Guy has not shot film in years. *All digital.


I just ordered this for my back up camerahttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/571017-REG/Hasselblad_70380532_...


Man, and I thought that *I* was cheap!

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 2nd 08 12:48 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.

Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture" a
larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)


Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.


What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?


Boater[_3_] December 2nd 08 12:53 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both
feet into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the
current ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture"
a larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)


Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.


What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?



Well, it has a smaller sensor than the DX cameras!

Oh...wait...that's not an advantage.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 2nd 08 12:55 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:13:50 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture" a
larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)


Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.


It's hard to rule the world with a 1% market penetration, which is about
what 4/3rds has now, and eTec has yet to achieve. :)


Like I said - keep following all the other sheeple in your quest to
fit in.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 2nd 08 01:05 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both
feet into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of
the current ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes
"capture" a larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)

Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.


What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?



Well, it has a smaller sensor than the DX cameras!


I really have no idea what the 4/3rd group is selling as their
advantages, but I had it was a way for those with smaller market share
to be able to group together to allow them to compete against Nikon and
Canon.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 2nd 08 01:15 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:48:31 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture" a
larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)


Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.


What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?


Well, the obvious is because I own it and we all know that I am one to
emulate being the manly handsome dude that I am.

However, 4/3 format is a system designed to be completely digital and
not emulate 35mm film cameras.

In short, advanced technolog - something not everybody appreciates.

You can compare it to four stroke vs ETEC. Four stroke - ancient
technology. ETEC - advanced technology. :)

Seriously, here's a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Thirds_System

Tom Francis - SWSports December 2nd 08 01:22 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:53:32 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both
feet into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the
current ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture"
a larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)

Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.


What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?


Well, it has a smaller sensor than the DX cameras!

Oh...wait...that's not an advantage.


Not true at all - it's a full frame system - it's just at a 4:3 rds
aspect ratio which is a fairly common standard for high quality film
work because of it's anamorphic qualities.

I think it was called Super35 or something like that.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 2nd 08 01:27 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:05:04 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both
feet into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of
the current ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes
"capture" a larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)

Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.

What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?


Well, it has a smaller sensor than the DX cameras!


I really have no idea what the 4/3rd group is selling as their
advantages, but I had it was a way for those with smaller market share
to be able to group together to allow them to compete against Nikon and
Canon.


That certainly is part of it, but not all.

The ultimate goal is to produce a small camera (say like a Coolpix or
Powershot) which is the equivalent of a DSLR smaller than a pack of
cigarettes.

Coming soon to a store near you - Oly and Panasonic are going to
capture the PnS market with this because it's the same sensor that is
used in Oly DSLRs.

D K December 2nd 08 01:30 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
wrote:
On Dec 1, 2:27 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater wrote:
About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)
24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body
Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.
SW Tom should buy of the new D3X boxes...

Luckily, most of us can get by with camera bodies costing much less than
$1000.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry doesn't do any photo manipulation, he'd rather see just what the
eye sees, no matter if it's washed out, or what. All he needs to do
that is a $100 point and shoot.


He also gets his material from images.google.com

HK December 2nd 08 01:50 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:53:32 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both
feet into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the
current ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture"
a larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)
Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.
What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?

Well, it has a smaller sensor than the DX cameras!

Oh...wait...that's not an advantage.


Not true at all - it's a full frame system - it's just at a 4:3 rds
aspect ratio which is a fairly common standard for high quality film
work because of it's anamorphic qualities.

I think it was called Super35 or something like that.



Argue with this wiki article and diagram:

The name of the system comes from the size type of the image sensor used
in the cameras. The image sensor is commonly referred to as a 4/3" type
or 4/3 type sensor. The common inch-based sizing system is derived from
vacuum image-sensing video camera tubes, which are now obsolete. The
imaging area of a Four-Thirds sensor is equal to that of a video camera
tube of 4/3" diameter.

The size of the sensor is 18×13.5 mm (22.5 mm diagonal), with an imaging
area of 17.3×13.0 mm (21.6 mm diagonal).[2] Its area is 30–40% less than
the APS-C sensors used in most other DSLRs, but around 9 times larger
than the 1/2.5" sensors typically used in compact digital cameras (see
image sensor format).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SensorSizes.png


Note the sentence: "Its area is 30–40% less than the APS-C sensors used
in most other DSLRs, "
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HK December 2nd 08 01:52 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:48:31 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both feet
into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the current
ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture" a
larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)
Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.

What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?


Well, the obvious is because I own it and we all know that I am one to
emulate being the manly handsome dude that I am.



Ahh, yes.

etec
4/3'rds
Big Mac is going to win on 4 November

Ayyyup.
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Tom Francis - SWSports December 2nd 08 02:03 AM

Only 8 large for new nikon camera
 
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:50:24 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:53:32 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500, Boater
wrote:

About $8000 for the body only. (Yikes)

24,5 Megapixel in FX-Format
3D Color Matrix II, Center-Weighted and Spot Metering
1 - 7 fps
1/8000 to 30 seconds shutter
ISO equivalency 100 to 1,600
2 lb 11 oz / 1220 g
Price est. $7,995 USD body

Another FX-format camera means that Nikon will jump back with both
feet into the production of full-frame lenses, updating some of the
current ones and introducing new ones.
Ain't gonna matter. 4/3rds is going to rule the world.
Will that be at the same time or just after eTech Evinrudes "capture"
a larger market share than Yamaha four-strokes? :)
Same theory actually - the better things are fewer in number.

It's an age old axiom that consumer sheeple like you get suckered with
every day.
What are the advantages of the 4/3rd system vs Canon or Nikon?
Well, it has a smaller sensor than the DX cameras!

Oh...wait...that's not an advantage.


Not true at all - it's a full frame system - it's just at a 4:3 rds
aspect ratio which is a fairly common standard for high quality film
work because of it's anamorphic qualities.

I think it was called Super35 or something like that.


Argue with this wiki article and diagram:

The name of the system comes from the size type of the image sensor used
in the cameras. The image sensor is commonly referred to as a 4/3" type
or 4/3 type sensor. The common inch-based sizing system is derived from
vacuum image-sensing video camera tubes, which are now obsolete. The
imaging area of a Four-Thirds sensor is equal to that of a video camera
tube of 4/3" diameter.

The size of the sensor is 18×13.5 mm (22.5 mm diagonal), with an imaging
area of 17.3×13.0 mm (21.6 mm diagonal).[2] Its area is 30–40% less than
the APS-C sensors used in most other DSLRs, but around 9 times larger
than the 1/2.5" sensors typically used in compact digital cameras (see
image sensor format).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SensorSizes.png

Note the sentence: "Its area is 30–40% less than the APS-C sensors used
in most other DSLRs, "


Yes - It's smaller - I never said it wasn't.

IT'S DESIGNED THAT WAY ON PURPOSE TO ACHIEVE FULL FRAME IMAGES AT
SHORTER FOCAL LENGTHS AND AT BETTER QUALITY BECAUSE THE LENSES AND
SENSOR ARE DESIGNED AS A COMPLETE DIGITAL SYSTEM UNLIKE OTHER SYSTEMS
WHICH ARE TRYING TO EMULATE 35 MM SLRS.

Honest to pete Harry - wake the **** up.


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