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Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed
traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
On Nov 30, 8:50*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). *Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. *I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. *:) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. *I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. *I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. *Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. *:) Tom is SW effected a lot by weather? Oddly enough, about 20 years ago, there was quite an odd summer storm that came though, a lot of wind, sudden drop of temp, no tornado's and no hail, but seemed weird for some reason, and too the north you could see some really giant cumulus clouds with lightning ****s inside them. i was driving south and was listening to the FM and i knew the station I was listening to wasn't familiar but was ok, then came the commercials and the station call sign. it was coming from Peoria IL. From my location it would ahve been about 260 miles away,and clear as a bell. that lasted for about a half hr, then the clouds started shifting and sunbeams peaked though, and the station faded out. Twilight Zone? Not hardly but odd weather effects on radio waves. That happen w/short wave too? And if so,a re various bands effected more than others? just curious. |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) Cool. Unfortunately my 23 ft whip on the boat doesn't really cut it on the low bands and I'm not set up for CW. I check into the Maritime Mobile Service Net on 14.300 once in a while just to check the rig out. We listen to it a lot when we're out cruising. Mrs B finds it reassuring that there's a whole army of people out there ready and willing to help out. They provide quite a service. |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:22:53 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Nov 30, 8:50*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). *Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. *I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. *:) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. *I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. *I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. *Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. *:) Tom is SW effected a lot by weather? Oddly enough, about 20 years ago, there was quite an odd summer storm that came though, a lot of wind, sudden drop of temp, no tornado's and no hail, but seemed weird for some reason, and too the north you could see some really giant cumulus clouds with lightning ****s inside them. i was driving south and was listening to the FM and i knew the station I was listening to wasn't familiar but was ok, then came the commercials and the station call sign. it was coming from Peoria IL. Actually, quite a bit - in particular on bands above 30 MHz although weather fronts can affect the HF bands. It's called Atmospheric Ducting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_ducting Up here in New England, we get quite a bit of ducting from down south on really the strong wave fronts where the pressure gradients are high - your classic Nor'Easter forming in the Carolinas will bring FM radio stations right up the coast with it. There is also a phenomenon called Tropospheric Ducting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troposp...pheric_ducting You probably remember this from back in the days of B&W TV and outdoor antennas on the roof. You could get stations from some fairly substantial distances with this one. One of my best "radio" stories concerns Tropo ducts. When the local Vollies were upgrading the local 911 dispatch system, some of us used to volunteer on the over night shift so the night guys could train with the new system during the day. One night, I got a cell phone call from the Pomfret tower - the next town over from Woodstock - the guys boat was sinking and he was off of Plum Island in Long Island Sound - his VHF ws dead and the only communications he had was a cell phone. Fortunately, I knew exactly what happened so I called CG New London and explained how I got the call - that was an interesting experience as the watch stander didn't get it at first. Fortunately it all worked out ok for everybody. I hate to think what might have happened if there wasn't an experienced radio operator on the 911 desk that night. Cell phones were still pretty rare back then. From my location it would ahve been about 260 miles away,and clear as a bell. that lasted for about a half hr, then the clouds started shifting and sunbeams peaked though, and the station faded out. Twilight Zone? Not hardly but odd weather effects on radio waves. That happen w/short wave too? And if so,a re various bands effected more than others? Very much so, but the effects aren't as pronounced on the low or HF bands are they are on the VHF/UHF bands. As you go higher in frequency, propogation can be affected by other weather related issues. Low band (shortwave) propogation depends a lot on the magnetic flux in the atmosphere and the Solar Flux which affects Earth's magnetic field (and the propogation properties of the various layers of the atmosphere). http://www.blackcatsystems.com/propa...on_basics.html http://www.blackcatsystems.com/propa...olar_flux.html just curious. It's fun. And of course with decreased solar activity, we get oddball weather patterns. Like Global Cooling. I blame Canada. |
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On Dec 1, 5:25*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:22:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 8:50*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). *Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. *I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. *:) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. *I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. *I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. *Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. *:) Tom is SW effected a lot by weather? Oddly enough, about 20 years ago, there was quite an odd summer storm that came though, a lot of wind, sudden drop of temp, no tornado's and no hail, but seemed weird for some reason, and too the north you could see some really giant cumulus clouds with lightning ****s inside them. i was driving south and was listening to the FM and i knew the station I was listening to wasn't familiar but was ok, then came the commercials *and the station call sign. it was coming from Peoria IL. Actually, quite a bit - in particular on bands above 30 MHz although weather fronts can affect the HF bands. *It's called Atmospheric Ducting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_ducting Up here in New England, we get quite a bit of ducting from down south on really the strong wave fronts where the pressure gradients are high - your classic Nor'Easter forming in the Carolinas will bring FM radio stations right up the coast with it. There is also a phenomenon called Tropospheric Ducting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troposp...pheric_ducting You probably remember this from back in the days of B&W TV and outdoor antennas on the roof. *You could get stations from some fairly substantial distances with this one. One of my best "radio" stories concerns Tropo ducts. *When the local Vollies were upgrading the local 911 dispatch system, some of us used to volunteer on the over night shift so the night guys could train with the new system during the day. *One night, I got a cell phone call from the Pomfret tower - the next town over from Woodstock - the guys boat was sinking and he was off of Plum Island in Long Island Sound - his VHF ws dead and the only communications he had was a cell phone. *Fortunately, I knew exactly what happened so I called CG New London and explained how I got the call - that was an interesting experience as the watch stander didn't get it at first. Fortunately it all worked out ok for everybody. *I hate to think what might have happened if there wasn't an experienced radio operator on the 911 desk that night. *Cell phones were still pretty rare back then. From my location it would ahve been about 260 miles away,and clear as a bell. that lasted for about a half hr, then the clouds started shifting and sunbeams peaked though, and the station faded out. Twilight Zone? Not hardly but odd weather effects on radio waves. That happen w/short wave too? And if so,a re various bands effected more than others? Very much so, but the effects aren't as pronounced on the low or HF bands are they are on the VHF/UHF bands. *As you go higher in frequency, propogation can be affected by other weather related issues. Low band (shortwave) propogation depends a lot on the magnetic flux in the atmosphere and the Solar Flux which affects Earth's magnetic field (and the propogation properties of the various layers of the atmosphere). * http://www.blackcatsystems.com/propa...on_basics.html http://www.blackcatsystems.com/propa...olar_flux.html just curious. It's fun. *And of course with decreased solar activity, we get oddball weather patterns. Like Global Cooling. I blame Canada. Thanks Tom, very informative! |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:01:13 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) Cool. Unfortunately my 23 ft whip on the boat doesn't really cut it on the low bands and I'm not set up for CW. Have you ever looked into one of the Outbacker antennas? I've been thinking about going CW mobile again. I was up in Salem, NH last week doing a chore for Mrs. Wave and stopped at HRO. Got a look at the Yaesu FT-857D - available with a full set of Collins mechanical filters. Hmmmm.... :) Looking through the catalogs I see that Hustler still makes their mast and top hat resonators for mobile use. I have a full set of those out in the work shop all the way from 160 to 6 meters. Anyway, I was kind of interested in the auto tuner antennas that interface with the tuners on the radios - extending and retracting the radiator as needed and I stumbled across the Outbackers. I check into the Maritime Mobile Service Net on 14.300 once in a while just to check the rig out. We listen to it a lot when we're out cruising. Mrs B finds it reassuring that there's a whole army of people out there ready and willing to help out. They provide quite a service. I have a mixed history with them - mostly positive, but you only need a couple of really bad operators or, well no other word for it, stupid operators and it kind of ruins things. In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I used to work with the German Cruisers net back in the day. That was quite a service - I can't remember the guys call, but his name was Horst and he worked the gray line from Pacific to the East coast over night with pirate reports, weather reports, lost cruisers, etc. He did a hell of a job. |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:26:25 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I'm not familiar with the history of that issue. |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:01:13 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) Cool. Unfortunately my 23 ft whip on the boat doesn't really cut it on the low bands and I'm not set up for CW. Have you ever looked into one of the Outbacker antennas? I've been thinking about going CW mobile again. I was up in Salem, NH last week doing a chore for Mrs. Wave and stopped at HRO. Got a look at the Yaesu FT-857D - available with a full set of Collins mechanical filters. Hmmmm.... :) Looking through the catalogs I see that Hustler still makes their mast and top hat resonators for mobile use. I have a full set of those out in the work shop all the way from 160 to 6 meters. Anyway, I was kind of interested in the auto tuner antennas that interface with the tuners on the radios - extending and retracting the radiator as needed and I stumbled across the Outbackers. I check into the Maritime Mobile Service Net on 14.300 once in a while just to check the rig out. We listen to it a lot when we're out cruising. Mrs B finds it reassuring that there's a whole army of people out there ready and willing to help out. They provide quite a service. I have a mixed history with them - mostly positive, but you only need a couple of really bad operators or, well no other word for it, stupid operators and it kind of ruins things. In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I used to work with the German Cruisers net back in the day. That was quite a service - I can't remember the guys call, but his name was Horst and he worked the gray line from Pacific to the East coast over night with pirate reports, weather reports, lost cruisers, etc. He did a hell of a job. He can't be all bad. Look at the company he keeps. 8) I remember him from my active ham days. He had/has a very distinctive voice that I can still hear in my head. http://www.qrz.com/callsign?callsign=KV4FZ |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:01:13 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) Cool. Unfortunately my 23 ft whip on the boat doesn't really cut it on the low bands and I'm not set up for CW. Have you ever looked into one of the Outbacker antennas? I've been thinking about going CW mobile again. I was up in Salem, NH last week doing a chore for Mrs. Wave and stopped at HRO. Got a look at the Yaesu FT-857D - available with a full set of Collins mechanical filters. Hmmmm.... :) Looking through the catalogs I see that Hustler still makes their mast and top hat resonators for mobile use. I have a full set of those out in the work shop all the way from 160 to 6 meters. Anyway, I was kind of interested in the auto tuner antennas that interface with the tuners on the radios - extending and retracting the radiator as needed and I stumbled across the Outbackers. I check into the Maritime Mobile Service Net on 14.300 once in a while just to check the rig out. We listen to it a lot when we're out cruising. Mrs B finds it reassuring that there's a whole army of people out there ready and willing to help out. They provide quite a service. I have a mixed history with them - mostly positive, but you only need a couple of really bad operators or, well no other word for it, stupid operators and it kind of ruins things. In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I used to work with the German Cruisers net back in the day. That was quite a service - I can't remember the guys call, but his name was Horst and he worked the gray line from Pacific to the East coast over night with pirate reports, weather reports, lost cruisers, etc. He did a hell of a job. Didn't realize Herb got it so much trouble while I've been inactive. http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2000/05/03/2/?nc=1 |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:35:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:26:25 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I'm not familiar with the history of that issue. It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. The issue revolved around the nature of emergency communications and the circumvention of the international phone system at the time - as in using ham radio to avoid long distance charges for non-essential and non-emergency communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. :) |
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:54:28 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:01:13 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) Cool. Unfortunately my 23 ft whip on the boat doesn't really cut it on the low bands and I'm not set up for CW. Have you ever looked into one of the Outbacker antennas? I've been thinking about going CW mobile again. I was up in Salem, NH last week doing a chore for Mrs. Wave and stopped at HRO. Got a look at the Yaesu FT-857D - available with a full set of Collins mechanical filters. Hmmmm.... :) Looking through the catalogs I see that Hustler still makes their mast and top hat resonators for mobile use. I have a full set of those out in the work shop all the way from 160 to 6 meters. Anyway, I was kind of interested in the auto tuner antennas that interface with the tuners on the radios - extending and retracting the radiator as needed and I stumbled across the Outbackers. I check into the Maritime Mobile Service Net on 14.300 once in a while just to check the rig out. We listen to it a lot when we're out cruising. Mrs B finds it reassuring that there's a whole army of people out there ready and willing to help out. They provide quite a service. I have a mixed history with them - mostly positive, but you only need a couple of really bad operators or, well no other word for it, stupid operators and it kind of ruins things. In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I used to work with the German Cruisers net back in the day. That was quite a service - I can't remember the guys call, but his name was Horst and he worked the gray line from Pacific to the East coast over night with pirate reports, weather reports, lost cruisers, etc. He did a hell of a job. Didn't realize Herb got it so much trouble while I've been inactive. http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2000/05/03/2/?nc=1 The funny thing about it is that he was an outstanding radio op. He was the one who came up with the phone number system during the '85 Mexican Earthquake which was used so effectively by XE1L to provide information about the health and welfare of familys of folks here in the US. I handled a lot of traffic during that one and he was as active as anybody else with a loud station. And then there was the Hugo diaster in which he really shined working as a forward air traffic controller routing relief missions by the Navy and Marine Corps sea/airlift in addition to all the International aid traffic going into and out of the VI area. Unfortunately, he had a dark side and it wasn't a pleasant one. I can't speak to the civiian problems he was accused of, but I am very aware of the problems he caused on the ham bands and it wasn't pleasant. |
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:29:28 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I'm not familiar with the history of that issue. It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. The issue revolved around the nature of emergency communications and the circumvention of the international phone system at the time - as in using ham radio to avoid long distance charges for non-essential and non-emergency communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. :) ======================== Interesting. Just like the internet, always a nut case somewhere wanting to be heard. |
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On Dec 1, 9:29*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. *There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. *He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. *:) |
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On Dec 1, 9:29*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. *There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. *He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. *:) Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media. ?;^ Q |
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Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. :) Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media. ?;^ Q This is rec.boats? I thought it was wimps.try.to.get.to.harry :) |
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On Dec 1, 12:24*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote: On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. *There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. *He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. *:) Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media. ?;^ Q This is rec.boats? I thought it was wimps.try.to.get.to.harry *:)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - LOL! |
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Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 12:24 pm, Boater wrote: Tim wrote: On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. :) Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media. ?;^ Q This is rec.boats? I thought it was wimps.try.to.get.to.harry :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - LOL! They're forming a new newsgroup, wimps'r'us |
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:27:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:29:28 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it. I'm not familiar with the history of that issue. It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. The issue revolved around the nature of emergency communications and the circumvention of the international phone system at the time - as in using ham radio to avoid long distance charges for non-essential and non-emergency communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. :) ======================== Interesting. Just like the internet, always a nut case somewhere wanting to be heard. Heh... And, just like here, he brought along all his buddies and fellow travelers. |
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:45:57 -0500, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote: On Dec 1, 12:24 pm, Boater wrote: Tim wrote: On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense, he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in communications. It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and others only it didn't involve ham radio. :) Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media. ?;^ Q This is rec.boats? I thought it was wimps.try.to.get.to.harry :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - LOL! They're forming a new newsgroup, wimps'r'us Hopefully they'll outlaw cut'n'pastes. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:53:20 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) WOW! I'd make that about 8,600 miles..... impressive! Just worked UA9AB long path on 40 meters - cw - and the gray line isn't in my favor. No fade and I got a 579 - 10 watts into that G5RV I have hanging at 45 feet. I don't know what the hell I did when I built that antenna, but it's incredibly resonant on 40 and 20. Don't know if this will capture the gray line at the time of QSO, but we'll give it the old college try. http://tinyurl.com/65rwhg And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:53:20 -0500, Gene wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) WOW! I'd make that about 8,600 miles..... impressive! Just worked UA9AB long path on 40 meters - cw - and the gray line isn't in my favor. No fade and I got a 579 - 10 watts into that G5RV I have hanging at 45 feet. I don't know what the hell I did when I built that antenna, but it's incredibly resonant on 40 and 20. Don't know if this will capture the gray line at the time of QSO, but we'll give it the old college try. http://tinyurl.com/65rwhg And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. |
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:53:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:53:20 -0500, Gene wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Messing around the lower end of 75 tonight listening to the high speed traffic nets (yeah - they still exist much to my delight). Once they closed down, I moved down the band to 3.520.50 and heard a faint call. I switched from my 80 dipole to the long wire and got a couple of extra s units - HS0B - thought I was hearing things. I was already tuned up - gave a shout and damn if he didn't hear me. :) Must have been long path - there was a lot of fade, but we got the QSO exchange and quick name exchange before the pile up started. I tried listening through the QRM - he was still there, but really faint. Must have hot spotted. Interesting anyway - the low bands seem really mediocre. I handed out a few Qs today for the CW WW CW - maybe 200 in all - Europe turned on and off like a freakin light switch. Same with the JAs which are normally all over 20 meters around sundown. Damn global warming. I blame Canada. Wow - now I'm hearing all kinds of UAs - band shifted quick. Hmmm - me thinks it's time to inspect the Beverages. :) WOW! I'd make that about 8,600 miles..... impressive! Just worked UA9AB long path on 40 meters - cw - and the gray line isn't in my favor. No fade and I got a 579 - 10 watts into that G5RV I have hanging at 45 feet. I don't know what the hell I did when I built that antenna, but it's incredibly resonant on 40 and 20. Don't know if this will capture the gray line at the time of QSO, but we'll give it the old college try. http://tinyurl.com/65rwhg And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. That's part of it certainly, but the main emphasis came from the USCG when they took their CW ops off the air. I have the message on tape and listened as the station went off the air. CQ CQ CQ DE NMN NMN BT 010001Z APR 95 FM COGARD CAMSLANT CHESAPEAKE VA/NMN TO ALL BT USCG NOW CLOSING DOWN CONTINUOUS HF CW WATCH CEASING ALL MORSE CODE OPS IN THE HF BAND. AS WE CONCLUDE OUR WATCH WE WISH YOU FAIR WINDS AND FOLLOWING SEAS. WE ARE PROUD OF OUR TRADITION AND LONG STANDING SERVICE TO THE MARINER ON MORSE CODE BEGINNING IN 1901 WITH THE REVENUE CUTTER SERVICE EXPERIMENTING WITH WIRELESS AS A MEANS TO COMMUNICIATE ON LAND AND SEA TO THE FIRST MORSE CODE RADIO INSTALLED ABOARD CUTTER GRANT IN 1903. OUR ORIG COMMS MISSION WAS TO RCV DISTRESS ALERTS BUT SINCE 1901 THE CG HAS FAITHFULLY AND DILIGENTLY LISTED FOR TRAFFIC RESPONDING TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CALL FM MARINERS IN NEED OF ASSIT OR RPTG POSITION WX NAV OR SAFETY INFO. OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE PROVIDED MARINERS WITH URGENT SAFETY AND NAV WARNINGS OVER HF CW AND RCVD VESSEL LOCATION UPDATES FOR THE AMVER SYS. WE WILL FEEL A SENSE OF LOSS WITH THE PASSING OF CW. THE NEED FOR OPERATORS WITH SENSITIVE EARS AND A FAST PRECISE KEY WILL BE REPLACED BY COMPUTERS MODEMS AND AUTO ALARMS. THE SPECIAL EMOTION AND EXCITEMENT ENJOYED BY CW OPERATORS CANNOT BE DUPLICATED AND THE CHILLING SOS SIGNAL WILL NEVER AGAIN BE RCVD BY A CG UNIT. BUT CW HAS RUN ITS COURSE AND NOW WE LOOK FWD TO SERVING YOU ON THE NEXT GENERATION OF COMM SYSTEMS VIA THE GMDSS. FM ALL CG TELECOMM SPECIALISTS WE BID YOU A 73. WHAT HATH GOD WROUGHT. SIGNEED CG CAMSLANT BT DE NMN SK Funny thing about the last USCG CW message. Itwasn't 30 seconds after USCG ceased operations and all the commercial CW operations shut down, A Russian trawler in the Bering Sea started taking on water - and transmitted an SOS via Morse Code. :) It probably was the only true "international" language that ever existed. |
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:53:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:13 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:53:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. I preferred the Model A. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:29:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. And that's different from a good CW operator how? :) I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will grant that PACTOR, AMTOR and the other modes are great. And I will grant you that it's kinda hard to transmit WEFAX. GPS, etc., using CW. I'm not a complete Luddite when it comes to digital communications - I have the full panoply of digital modes at my finger tips and use them - not regularly, but occasionally - in particular Packet. However that requires an additional level of technology that can break down, suffer from computer failure or, in the case of my KAM Plus, battery failure of all things. There is a simplicity to CW that just can't be beat. It's a true internatinal language. The whole art form of using a Vibroplex Bug (I've got two - a Gold and my Dad's Presentation) running high speed CW full QSK with an experienced op is pure magic. If you have a way to make and break a pair of contacts, you can communicate. Can't be any simpler than that. able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. Until the computer hiccups or the digital braking system gets a brain cramp - then the good old Model T shines if only because of it's simplicity. :) |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
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On Dec 3, 7:22*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! *:) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. * It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. * The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. * I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. *I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. * The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. *It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? Or sooner? |
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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Very similar, but more fun. |
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:51:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. Very similar, but more fun. A perfectly good thread about electronic communications ruined. And it's all your fault. -- Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:51:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. Very similar, but more fun. A perfectly good thread about electronic communications ruined. And it's all your fault. -- Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off. I thought I just put a different spin on the thread, but to be honest, I didn't even read the part about the communications, I just honed in on the Ferrari. ;) But it is not ruined, it just took a tangent, and it can return to it's regularly scheduled broadcast. |
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:32:08 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:51:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. Very similar, but more fun. A perfectly good thread about electronic communications ruined. And it's all your fault. Nope. Whoever started comparing Ferraris and Model Ts did it. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:08:24 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:51:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. Very similar, but more fun. A perfectly good thread about electronic communications ruined. And it's all your fault. I thought I just put a different spin on the thread, but to be honest, I didn't even read the part about the communications, I just honed in on the Ferrari. ;) Spin out is more like it. Get it - Ferarri - spin out? But it is not ruined, it just took a tangent, and it can return to it's regularly scheduled broadcast. Rec.boats has a schedule? Damn... -- Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off. |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:19:38 -0500, JohnH
wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:32:08 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:51:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. Very similar, but more fun. A perfectly good thread about electronic communications ruined. And it's all your fault. Nope. Whoever started comparing Ferraris and Model Ts did it. Well, there aren't any Canadians in the thread so I can't blame Canada. Also there aren't any Mexicans, Guatamalems, Costa Ricans, French, Spanish, German, Russian, Chinese or Arabic speakers in the thread so I can't blame any of them either. That just leaves you and Reggie. And I blame Reggie just because. -- Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off. |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:08:24 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:51:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. Very similar, but more fun. A perfectly good thread about electronic communications ruined. And it's all your fault. I thought I just put a different spin on the thread, but to be honest, I didn't even read the part about the communications, I just honed in on the Ferrari. ;) Spin out is more like it. Get it - Ferarri - spin out? But it is not ruined, it just took a tangent, and it can return to it's regularly scheduled broadcast. Rec.boats has a schedule? Damn... -- Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off. You should get a copy everyone Monday. That might explain why you have not been following the schedule. |
Yo!! Wayne/Gene...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:19:38 -0500, JohnH wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:32:08 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:51:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: And they said CW was a dead mode. HA!!! :) Dead only because of no-code licenses. I'd guess it will be almost completely gone in another 20 or 30 years as our generation goes SK. It will become a fringe niche like AM phone. The good news is that it will only need about 25 KHz per band. NEVER!!! Once you get hooked on the hi tech digital modes with excellent error detection/correction, automated retry, adaptive speed/modulation, and uncanny weak signal ability, it is really hard to look back. I am truly amazed every time I see an error free EMAIL popping out of the PACTOR from a barely audible signal. I will concede that being able to build a low power CW transmitter from a bag of junk parts is kind of interesting also, but it's like comparing a Model T with a Ferrari. The Model T is interesting because it runs at all, and the Ferrari is interesting because it runs so well. A Ferrari is like a woman's reproduction system. It is very complicated and seems like it is in the shop half of the time. You mean that's it's in the shop every 27 days? I must not have followed the proper maintenance schedule. I just rode it hard and enjoyed the ride, forgetting that you need to follow a very rigid maintenance schedule. Or maybe it just seemed it was broken half the time. Sounds like a Harley Davidson to me. Very similar, but more fun. A perfectly good thread about electronic communications ruined. And it's all your fault. Nope. Whoever started comparing Ferraris and Model Ts did it. Well, there aren't any Canadians in the thread so I can't blame Canada. Also there aren't any Mexicans, Guatamalems, Costa Ricans, French, Spanish, German, Russian, Chinese or Arabic speakers in the thread so I can't blame any of them either. That just leaves you and Reggie. And I blame Reggie just because. -- Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off. I have broad shoulders, I can take it. |
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