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Harry Krause September 6th 03 09:52 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Mahmoud Abbas submitted his resignation as Palestinian prime minister
today and Israel tried to kill the spiritual leader and founder of Hamas
with an airstrike in Gaza City, *as the Bush administration's drive for
Middle East peace appeared in danger of disintegrating.*

The Bush Foreign Policy: Stupid is as Stupid Does



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JohnH September 6th 03 10:46 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 16:52:48 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Mahmoud Abbas submitted his resignation as Palestinian prime minister
today and Israel tried to kill the spiritual leader and founder of Hamas
with an airstrike in Gaza City, *as the Bush administration's drive for
Middle East peace appeared in danger of disintegrating.*

The Bush Foreign Policy: Stupid is as Stupid Does


Being neither as astute nor as enlightened as you are, I fail to see how these
actions reflect so badly on the Bush administration. Could you explain, please?

Also, I see the 'Yo Ho' on a rack and not in the water much. Have you given up
on the Parker already?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Bill Cole September 6th 03 11:29 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
John, Harry prefers to fish in rec.boats, the fish are always biting and you
don't have to get your hands all smelly.


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 16:52:48 -0400, Harry Krause


wrote:

Mahmoud Abbas submitted his resignation as Palestinian prime minister
today and Israel tried to kill the spiritual leader and founder of Hamas
with an airstrike in Gaza City, *as the Bush administration's drive for
Middle East peace appeared in danger of disintegrating.*

The Bush Foreign Policy: Stupid is as Stupid Does


Being neither as astute nor as enlightened as you are, I fail to see how

these
actions reflect so badly on the Bush administration. Could you explain,

please?

Also, I see the 'Yo Ho' on a rack and not in the water much. Have you

given up
on the Parker already?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD




Joe Parsons September 7th 03 02:24 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith wrote:

[Harry] has even posted fake photos i.e. the Hatt 43
(stolen from a web site he was caught !!) & the 19 ftr. (a doctored
photo with "krause" added to it..... as if:-) I apologise for the
pastes but when I've posted summaries he has, in true liar fashion, just
denied he ever made the claims, this bloke is the pinup of all BS'ers.


I was curious, and went looking for some reference to the "fake photos."

Do you have a message ID or a Google link?

Joe Parsons


Bill Cole September 7th 03 02:46 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Harry,
I thought you agreed that you had posted a picture of a "sistership"
Hatteras? Now you are telling us that you did not do that.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Joe Parsons wrote:

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith wrote:

[Harry] has even posted fake photos i.e. the Hatt 43
(stolen from a web site he was caught !!) & the 19 ftr. (a doctored
photo with "krause" added to it..... as if:-) I apologise for the
pastes but when I've posted summaries he has, in true liar fashion, just
denied he ever made the claims, this bloke is the pinup of all BS'ers.


I was curious, and went looking for some reference to the "fake photos."

Do you have a message ID or a Google link?

Joe Parsons


Of course she doesn't. The 19-footer was a photo of my old Sea Pro under
its winterized shrink wrap cover at a local dealer's. The dealer spray
paints the name of the owner of the boat on the shrink wrap. The other
photo she refers to was one invented by Dave Mann of Derby, Kansas.

Karen Smith is a rather pathetic old bag from Australia who tries to
pass herself off as an "expert" on a number of boating areas, but whose
expertise has been called into question time and again. The best guess
is that she works as a receptionist or secretary in some boat yard. She
goes over the top with anyone who questions her "expertise." There are
plenty of examples. She's also a bit of a right-wing extremist, but
that's just her fun side.

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K Smith September 7th 03 02:57 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 16:52:48 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Mahmoud Abbas submitted his resignation as Palestinian prime minister
today and Israel tried to kill the spiritual leader and founder of Hamas
with an airstrike in Gaza City, *as the Bush administration's drive for
Middle East peace appeared in danger of disintegrating.*

The Bush Foreign Policy: Stupid is as Stupid Does


Being neither as astute nor as enlightened as you are, I fail to see how these
actions reflect so badly on the Bush administration. Could you explain, please?




Sure...it talked a lot about its "Road to Peace," and then, as usual,
did nothing to move the process along.



Also, I see the 'Yo Ho' on a rack and not in the water much. Have you given up
on the Parker already?




I'm not retired, John, so I've been very busy the last few weeks. And
I've been using the other boats. But I will be out on Yo Ho tomorrow.
You're more than welcome to come along, if you like. Lemme know.




What an absolute load of balderdash!!! Hasn't anyone else noticed the
subtle shift from "my" to "our" in references to the Parker, it's not
his anymore than the Lobster boat is.

I notice the other day he claimed not to be "using" the Parker because
he was out on his Lobster boat more???? Geez Louise!!! he's just full of
it.

Here's a paste of some earlier lies just remember he's "created' endless
boats which have later turned out to be nothing but lies & yes yes he's
brazen & in the past has even posted fake photos i.e. the Hatt 43
(stolen from a web site he was caught !!) & the 19 ftr. (a doctored
photo with "krause" added to it..... as if:-) I apologise for the
pastes but when I've posted summaries he has, in true liar fashion, just
denied he ever made the claims, this bloke is the pinup of all BS'ers.

Anyway there's only so much a koala can bear & Harry is well beyond it;

On or about Oct 98 he posted & remember the standard of his boat
understanding in this group = none; he's a fake.;

AGE

54. I think.

CURRENT BOAT(s)

18.5' SeaPro "Bay 1900" fishing boat with 135 Merc Opti
Yamaha PWC

"NEXT BOATS"

Next spring, a small, fast racing sloop, such as an I-14.

Somewhat sooner, an offshore sportfishing boat, but probably
under 30-feet.

I'd love to get a tunnel boat hydroplane. But I don't know why.

PAST BOATS

Too many to list. Remember that our family business was the boat business. Many
of the boats listed here were simply "signed out to me" as summer-long
"demonstrators." Hey...it's tough, but someone had to do it.

Here are some:

Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders. Guaranteed 60
mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe



I'm sorry he's a liar pure & simple (well mainly simple:-)) & after he
stalked Madcowe in real life, I realised it was more that just a sad
inadequate basically harmless individual but a psychotic sicko.

K


Joe Parsons September 7th 03 03:01 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 12:50:21 +1000, K Smith wrote:

Joe Parsons wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith wrote:


[Harry] has even posted fake photos i.e. the Hatt 43
(stolen from a web site he was caught !!) & the 19 ftr. (a doctored
photo with "krause" added to it..... as if:-) I apologise for the
pastes but when I've posted summaries he has, in true liar fashion, just
denied he ever made the claims, this bloke is the pinup of all BS'ers.



I was curious, and went looking for some reference to the "fake photos."

Do you have a message ID or a Google link?

Joe Parsons


The Hatt photo was of a new boat from a web site & the 19ftr was so
obviously fake it didn't matter, if you advance search using Hatt,
Hatteras, hatt in this group you'll find all the exchanges easily enough.


I'm still curious; even looking at Google, I wasn't able to find a URL posted by
any of the people involved in the discussion.

Can you help?

Joe Parsons


bb September 7th 03 03:38 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith
wrote:

Hasn't anyone else noticed the
subtle shift from "my" to "our" in references to the Parker, it's not
his anymore than the Lobster boat is.


No, but not many are as obsessed about everything Harry as you are.
Yeah, there's six or eight around here who do nothing but dog Harry,
but since Skipper apparently lost his library card, you are the lead
dog Harry nutzo.

bb

Harry Krause September 7th 03 03:49 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
bb wrote:

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith
wrote:

Hasn't anyone else noticed the
subtle shift from "my" to "our" in references to the Parker, it's not
his anymore than the Lobster boat is.


No, but not many are as obsessed about everything Harry as you are.
Yeah, there's six or eight around here who do nothing but dog Harry,
but since Skipper apparently lost his library card, you are the lead
dog Harry nutzo.

bb



Ah, yes...the pack'o'mutts, all covered with fleas.

It's kind of funny that Karen of Oz, who has no facility whatsoever with
language, gets off on my shifting between "my" or "our" or whatever, and
attributes meaning to the use of the words beyond their simple use.




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K Smith September 7th 03 03:50 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Joe Parsons wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith wrote:


[Harry] has even posted fake photos i.e. the Hatt 43
(stolen from a web site he was caught !!) & the 19 ftr. (a doctored
photo with "krause" added to it..... as if:-) I apologise for the
pastes but when I've posted summaries he has, in true liar fashion, just
denied he ever made the claims, this bloke is the pinup of all BS'ers.



I was curious, and went looking for some reference to the "fake photos."

Do you have a message ID or a Google link?

Joe Parsons


The Hatt photo was of a new boat from a web site & the 19ftr was so
obviously fake it didn't matter, if you advance search using Hatt,
Hatteras, hatt in this group you'll find all the exchanges easily enough.

K


K Smith September 7th 03 10:53 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
K Smith wrote:


Joe Parsons wrote:

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith wrote:



[Harry] has even posted fake photos i.e. the Hatt 43
(stolen from a web site he was caught !!) & the 19 ftr. (a doctored
photo with "krause" added to it..... as if:-) I apologise for the
pastes but when I've posted summaries he has, in true liar fashion, just
denied he ever made the claims, this bloke is the pinup of all BS'ers.


I was curious, and went looking for some reference to the "fake photos."

Do you have a message ID or a Google link?

Joe Parsons


The Hatt photo was of a new boat from a web site & the 19ftr was so
obviously fake it didn't matter, if you advance search using Hatt,
Hatteras, hatt in this group you'll find all the exchanges easily enough.

K





Nice try, Karen. There indeed are plenty of "exchanges" regarding the
Hatt, and 99% of them were from you and Skipper, working hard to
convince each other of the merits of your idiocy.


Wait wait a minute Harry, when bounced I also thought you admitted the
pics were not yours but a "sistership" is it now your position that was
indeed "your" Hatt??? You are really just sad aren't you.

So, Karen...got a job?


Not really these days a bit of helping out when I can & want to.

Got an education?

Unlike you yes but I don't need to say much on that score seems I was
right about the new tech OBs before the manufacturers were & gee it even
swallowed your belooved OMC.

As for4 your lies about your education, no worries I have plenty of
pastes for that if you want??

Got anything other than that
photo of the derelict old boat you claim is your own?


Well it's no oil painting to be sure, but she's old & the bloke kid
that I'm not either, pretty much for the same reason:-) However there it
is, the trademark is visible the even the rego# so even someone of your
limited ability can check away. Now unlike the years you've been here
all we've seen is lies upon lies.

Been inventing any marketable diesel outboards lately?


No the one & few clones is plenty in this lifetime, but I guess you
know lots of people who have designed & built their own "diesel" OBs??
You know not just grafted the wrong powerhead onto a leg but actually
.....well you know. Given I expect you'll name plenty can you put then
alphabetically so the checking is made easier:-)


Or are you still making the coffee runs for the "blokes"?


I do yes!!! & I even take then cakes etc. Why what have you heard???
They reckon I'm the best gofor there ever was.

K



Harry Krause September 7th 03 11:47 AM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
K Smith wrote:


So, Karen...got a job?


Not really these days a bit of helping out when I can & want to.



What, emptying the wastebaskets and going for coffee? Isn't that the
same job you've always had?




Got an education?

Unlike you yes but I don't need to say much on that score


No, you don't need to say much about your education, because there isn't
much to say about it.



Got anything other than that
photo of the derelict old boat you claim is your own?


Well it's no oil painting to be sure, but she's old & the bloke kid
that I'm not either, pretty much for the same reason:-)


It's a derelict. How many pumps do you have to keep running to keep it
afloat?


However there it
is, the trademark is visible the even the rego# so even someone of your
limited ability can check away.


Why would anyone be that interested?




Been inventing any marketable diesel outboards lately?


No the one & few clones is plenty in this lifetime, but I guess you
know lots of people who have designed & built their own "diesel" OBs??


You did nothing of the sort.



Or are you still making the coffee runs for the "blokes"?


I do yes!!! & I even take then cakes etc. Why what have you heard???
They reckon I'm the best gofor there ever was.



Well, you're too old, fat and unattractive to be a fluffer.


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Doug Kanter September 7th 03 01:16 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Harry, for a million reasons OTHER than the situation in Israel, I think
Bush is as useful as raw fish that's been left out of the refrigerator for 2
days by accident. But, there has yet to be a president from any political
camp that's had anything remotely resembling success with the
Israeli/Palestinian conflict. They're all required to make an effort,
because religious groups in this country are appalled at the violence in
what both groups consider a holy place. Other than that, our politicians are
powerless to change anything.

Fortunately, you're not debating to earn your next meal. You would've gone
without one lunch for this one.



K Smith September 7th 03 01:21 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
K Smith wrote:



So, Karen...got a job?


Not really these days a bit of helping out when I can & want to.




What, emptying the wastebaskets and going for coffee? Isn't that the
same job you've always had?




Got an education?

Unlike you yes but I don't need to say much on that score



No, you don't need to say much about your education, because there isn't
much to say about it.




Got anything other than that

photo of the derelict old boat you claim is your own?


Well it's no oil painting to be sure, but she's old & the bloke kid
that I'm not either, pretty much for the same reason:-)



It's a derelict. How many pumps do you have to keep running to keep it
afloat?


However there it

is, the trademark is visible the even the rego# so even someone of your
limited ability can check away.



Why would anyone be that interested?




Been inventing any marketable diesel outboards lately?


No the one & few clones is plenty in this lifetime, but I guess you
know lots of people who have designed & built their own "diesel" OBs??



You did nothing of the sort.



I better quickly acknowledge "I" personally didn't build the diesel OBs
but certainly the original was my motor, built by my blokes for me. If
you want recognition from me that I couldn't do any of it without them??
no worries I acknowledge that & always have.




Or are you still making the coffee runs for the "blokes"?


I do yes!!! & I even take then cakes etc. Why what have you heard???
They reckon I'm the best gofor there ever was.




Well, you're too old, fat and unattractive to be a fluffer.


Now now your difficulties realting to the opposite sex are manifest, so
don't go making it worse for yourself.

K




Bill Cole September 7th 03 01:28 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Karen,
I think you have this bloke Harry all wrong, it has nothing to do with him
being a sexist. He likes to use personal attacks as his modus operandum. I
can understand why you think his is a chauvinist pig when he says you are
too ugly and fat to get a job giving blowjobs to porn stars, but it is not
due to him being a chauvinist. Harry is not intelligent enough to discuss
any topic, boating or otherwise with someone so he has to resort to name
calling.

At least you are not a right wing trash unemployed fluffier. ; )


Smith" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
K Smith wrote:



So, Karen...got a job?

Not really these days a bit of helping out when I can & want to.




What, emptying the wastebaskets and going for coffee? Isn't that the
same job you've always had?




Got an education?

Unlike you yes but I don't need to say much on that score



No, you don't need to say much about your education, because there isn't
much to say about it.




Got anything other than that

photo of the derelict old boat you claim is your own?

Well it's no oil painting to be sure, but she's old & the bloke kid
that I'm not either, pretty much for the same reason:-)



It's a derelict. How many pumps do you have to keep running to keep it
afloat?


However there it

is, the trademark is visible the even the rego# so even someone of your
limited ability can check away.



Why would anyone be that interested?




Been inventing any marketable diesel outboards lately?

No the one & few clones is plenty in this lifetime, but I guess you
know lots of people who have designed & built their own "diesel" OBs??



You did nothing of the sort.



I better quickly acknowledge "I" personally didn't build the diesel OBs
but certainly the original was my motor, built by my blokes for me. If
you want recognition from me that I couldn't do any of it without them??
no worries I acknowledge that & always have.




Or are you still making the coffee runs for the "blokes"?

I do yes!!! & I even take then cakes etc. Why what have you heard???
They reckon I'm the best gofor there ever was.




Well, you're too old, fat and unattractive to be a fluffer.


Now now your difficulties realting to the opposite sex are manifest, so
don't go making it worse for yourself.

K






Don White September 7th 03 04:17 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Wow! I would have concluded that he meant the boat belonged to him and
his wife...a family boat.


K Smith wrote in message
...
What an absolute load of balderdash!!! Hasn't anyone else noticed the
subtle shift from "my" to "our" in references to the Parker, it's not
his anymore than the Lobster boat is.

snip



Wayne.B September 7th 03 10:31 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:57:40 +1000, K Smith
wrote:
I'm sorry he's a liar pure & simple (well mainly simple:-)) & after he
stalked Madcowe in real life, I realised it was more that just a sad
inadequate basically harmless individual but a psychotic sicko.


==========================

K, give it up please, I'm getting concerned that you actually believe
some of this stuff. Now, if you're just trying to yank Harry's chain
once in a while we could probably understand that, but some of this is
getting olde and tyresome.


Harry Krause September 7th 03 10:58 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Don White wrote:
Wow! I would have concluded that he meant the boat belonged to him and
his wife...a family boat.


K Smith wrote in message
...
What an absolute load of balderdash!!! Hasn't anyone else noticed the
subtle shift from "my" to "our" in references to the Parker, it's not
his anymore than the Lobster boat is.

snip



That's because Engish is your native language, Don.

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Wayne.B September 7th 03 11:25 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 12:16:08 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:
Harry, for a million reasons OTHER than the situation in Israel, I think
Bush is as useful as raw fish that's been left out of the refrigerator for 2
days by accident.

========================

You can catch lobster with a fish like that :-)




Doug Kanter September 8th 03 03:03 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 12:16:08 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:
Harry, for a million reasons OTHER than the situation in Israel, I think
Bush is as useful as raw fish that's been left out of the refrigerator

for 2
days by accident.

========================

You can catch lobster with a fish like that :-)


Crayfish and minnows, too. But you know what I mean. Harry really stretching
with THIS discussion. :-) There are so many things which really ARE Bush's
fault. Why dredge up a lame-ass thing like this?



Harry Krause September 8th 03 11:18 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 12:16:08 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:
Harry, for a million reasons OTHER than the situation in Israel, I think
Bush is as useful as raw fish that's been left out of the refrigerator

for 2
days by accident.

========================

You can catch lobster with a fish like that :-)


Crayfish and minnows, too. But you know what I mean. Harry really stretching
with THIS discussion. :-) There are so many things which really ARE Bush's
fault. Why dredge up a lame-ass thing like this?




Bush refused to engage himself in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute for
the first two years of his residency. He could have and should have done
more and sooner.


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NOYB September 8th 03 11:23 PM

Another great foreign policy coup of the Bush-shippers.
 
Bull****. That's a problem that won't go away until we deal with the
countries that are sponsoring the terrorists...Syria, Iran, Lebanon, and the
Saudi's. Since any of 'em are the next logical target after Iraq, it seems
to me that Bush has been working on a solution since September '01.






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 12:16:08 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:
Harry, for a million reasons OTHER than the situation in Israel, I

think
Bush is as useful as raw fish that's been left out of the refrigerator

for 2
days by accident.
========================

You can catch lobster with a fish like that :-)


Crayfish and minnows, too. But you know what I mean. Harry really

stretching
with THIS discussion. :-) There are so many things which really ARE

Bush's
fault. Why dredge up a lame-ass thing like this?




Bush refused to engage himself in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute for
the first two years of his residency. He could have and should have done
more and sooner.


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