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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Nov 25, 3:52*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Nov 25, 3:48 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 25, 3:10 pm, Boater wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications.. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question. You missed the part about employer delays? Mt point is, move up the election. *If they can legislate check cards, they can legislate the vote delay. There are many ways employers can delay a vote.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's been hours Harry, can't you google up any answers yet? *You still haven't answered one question today.. You can't read? I told you: *when you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No you won't, you can't but at least you are the only one here who believes you here.. We all know you are full of **** and have no interest in anything beyond your own selfish liberal agenda... As previously stated: When you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the * time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But Harry, you are a liar... why should anyone trust you now after over a decade of your bull? |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Nov 25, 3:52*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Nov 25, 3:48 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 25, 3:10 pm, Boater wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications.. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question. You missed the part about employer delays? Mt point is, move up the election. *If they can legislate check cards, they can legislate the vote delay. There are many ways employers can delay a vote.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's been hours Harry, can't you google up any answers yet? *You still haven't answered one question today.. You can't read? I told you: *when you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No you won't, you can't but at least you are the only one here who believes you here.. We all know you are full of **** and have no interest in anything beyond your own selfish liberal agenda... As previously stated: When you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the * time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:37:42 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: The Post Office went through a rough time. Bosses used to fill the lower management ranks with retired military types. They wanted hard nosed yes men to use against the union rank & file. Hadn't thought of this in years, but most of my managers in union shops were hard asses. They had to be. --Vic |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:09:07 -0500, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:04:37 -0800 (PST), wrote: He has never aswered questions. Where have you been? He just spouts the talking points and outshouts the opposition, it's been the DNC tactic ever since the Clinton admin.. Censor anybody or threaten anybody who does not toe the line, then shout over them... Or save time by simply shoving them down the stairs. You've got to be some piece of work to be shoved down the stairs by the cops in a small town police station. In New York, they would have bent him over and shoved a broomstick up his butt. He must have mouthed off big time. Wow, Harry! Donnie *and* Salty! You are one popular little bugger. I can only dream of having such faithful followers. -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:55:41 -0800 (PST),
wrote: On Nov 25, 3:52*pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 25, 3:48 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 25, 3:10 pm, Boater wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question. You missed the part about employer delays? Mt point is, move up the election. *If they can legislate check cards, they can legislate the vote delay. There are many ways employers can delay a vote.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's been hours Harry, can't you google up any answers yet? *You still haven't answered one question today.. You can't read? I told you: *when you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No you won't, you can't but at least you are the only one here who believes you here.. We all know you are full of **** and have no interest in anything beyond your own selfish liberal agenda... As previously stated: When you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the * time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... What is the point? -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Nov 25, 8:47*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:55:41 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 3:52*pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 25, 3:48 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 25, 3:10 pm, Boater wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question. You missed the part about employer delays? Mt point is, move up the election. *If they can legislate check cards, they can legislate the vote delay. There are many ways employers can delay a vote.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's been hours Harry, can't you google up any answers yet? *You still haven't answered one question today.. You can't read? I told you: *when you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No you won't, you can't but at least you are the only one here who believes you here.. We all know you are full of **** and have no interest in anything beyond your own selfish liberal agenda... As previously stated: When you demonstrate you can "debate/discuss" topics in a civilized adult manner, I will take the * time to take you seriously. Until then, you get short answers and simple sentences.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... What is the point? -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I just like seeing Harry squirm around with the other two hs dropouts.. |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:09:07 -0500, Boater wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:04:37 -0800 (PST), wrote: He has never aswered questions. Where have you been? He just spouts the talking points and outshouts the opposition, it's been the DNC tactic ever since the Clinton admin.. Censor anybody or threaten anybody who does not toe the line, then shout over them... Or save time by simply shoving them down the stairs. You've got to be some piece of work to be shoved down the stairs by the cops in a small town police station. In New York, they would have bent him over and shoved a broomstick up his butt. He must have mouthed off big time. Wow, Harry! Donnie *and* Salty! You are one popular little bugger. I can only dream of having such faithful followers. -- Too bad you didn't learn to lead men when in the US Army. Now your Dope Army irregulars are completly undisciplined and out of control. |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Brilliant, and I'll bet, right on the nail with that one. |
Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
It's funny to hear the pro-union trash on this NG whine about intimidation. That's exactly how unions exist... through intimidation. "Give us another raise and increase our benefits, or we go on strike!" Well, you get the Electric Company, the Gas Company, and the Taxes to go DOWN 13%....and I'll TAKE the wage concession...till then...go **** yourself. The Poster sounds like a middle-management loser........ |
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