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Tom Francis - SWSports November 25th 08 09:00 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:12:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:04:08 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.


No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop? What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?


It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.


You can't swim?


Tell you what - you go swimming in 50 degree water in the Spring to
change a prop - I'll watch. :)

Tom Francis - SWSports November 25th 08 09:02 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:13:53 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.

No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop? What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?


It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.


You weren't aware of that? Seriously?


Never occurred to me for some reason.

I carry a spare prop, but I
figure it is going to be changed on shore or from someone else's boat. I
saw a guy do it while swimming in the water offshore of Jax, or at least
he was finishing up the job. Didn't see the whole thing being done.


Actually, I asked one of my friends who is a Sea//Tow skipper if they
would do it from another boat - turns out that yes - that would be
covered as a service call.

So there you have it.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] November 25th 08 09:04 PM

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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


I don't think you can call me a right-wing piece of ****. I voted
for Obama

Liar.


Nope, not only did I vote for Obama,


Liar.


Did I tell you my son worked/volunteered at his local Obama campaign
headquarters, and my eldest daughter spent a few days getting people to
register. Yup, as always you are wrong.

Your problem is you tell so many lies, that you find it hard to believe
that some people don't bother to lie.


[email protected] November 25th 08 09:05 PM

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On Nov 25, 3:56*pm, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


I don't think you can call me a right-wing piece of ****. *I voted
for Obama


Liar.


Nope, not only did I vote for Obama,


Liar.


Harry calling someone else a liar.............OH, THE IRONY!!!!!!!

Boater November 25th 08 09:06 PM

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:12:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:04:08 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.

No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop? What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?
It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.

You can't swim?


Tell you what - you go swimming in 50 degree water in the Spring to
change a prop - I'll watch. :)




Ever swim at Revere Beach or Nantasket? I did when I was a kid. I doubt
I could tolerate it in August these days.

Eisboch November 25th 08 09:10 PM

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...


Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.



Didn't the Marine Corps teach you how to swim?

Eisboch




Vic Smith November 25th 08 09:28 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:56:04 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


I don't think you can call me a right-wing piece of ****. I voted
for Obama

Liar.


Nope, not only did I vote for Obama,


Liar.


Hey, just because Reggie is a lib, don't mean he has to like you.

--Vic

Tom Francis - SWSports November 25th 08 09:37 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:06:07 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:12:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:04:08 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.

No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop? What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?
It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.
You can't swim?


Tell you what - you go swimming in 50 degree water in the Spring to
change a prop - I'll watch. :)


Ever swim at Revere Beach or Nantasket? I did when I was a kid. I doubt
I could tolerate it in August these days.


Devreaux Beach which might as well be the same - it's about six miles
apart. :)

All I know is that I hate being cold - I'm cold when the wood stove is
cranking and it's 75 in the house. Mrs. Wave thinks I'm a freak of
nature - which I am.

God's honest truth - at night, I've got two down comforters, one
thermal blanket, a flannel blanket and I wear socks to keep my feet
warm and have been known to wear jersey gloves when my hands get cold.
Mrs. Wave has maybe a sheet and the flannel blanket covering her -
maybe. Plus the temp is set for 62 overnight and goes up to 75 at 0445
for a 0500 wake up because if I get a chill from a cold room, the rest
of my day, and everybody else's, will be ruined. :)

Even when I was a kid, I would wear a thin wet suit over a heavier wet
suit when diving. Later on, I wore dry suits even during the summer.

I have no internal temperature regulation at all - I'm always cold.
About the only time I'm not cold is when the temp is in the mid-80s -
then I'm fairly comfortable.

Tom Francis - SWSports November 25th 08 09:40 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...


Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.


Didn't the Marine Corps teach you how to swim?


Actually, no. I learned at the Milwaukee YMCA swim club when I was
four.

All the Marine Corps taught me was how not to sink with a field pack -
which, by the way, was something that I already knew how to do. That
was the one thing I never had any trouble with - swimming that is.

Tom Francis - SWSports November 25th 08 09:47 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:54:12 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Nope, not only did I vote for Obama,


Communist. :)

Mrs. Wave, for the first time ever since we've been married, voted for
McCain.

I actually convinced her that was the better choice.

Well, that and the fact that (1) Hillary wasn't the nominee and (2)
she was not impressed with his performance at the NEA convention and
felt that he was taking the NEA endorsement for granted.

I still like to pretend that it was my convincing argument for McCain
that did it. :)

D.Duck November 25th 08 09:53 PM

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.



No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop?
What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?


It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.


Come on, you're a Marine. Unbolt the motor, lift into the boat, change the
freakin' prop, reinstall the motor and you're on your way.

You can do it, we know you can. Bad back you say, wear a brace. 8)



Boater November 25th 08 09:57 PM

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:56:04 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

I don't think you can call me a right-wing piece of ****. I voted
for Obama
Liar.
Nope, not only did I vote for Obama,

Liar.


Hey, just because Reggie is a lib, don't mean he has to like you.

--Vic



Reggie is not a "lib."

Boater November 25th 08 09:58 PM

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:06:07 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:12:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:04:08 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.
No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop? What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?
It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.
You can't swim?
Tell you what - you go swimming in 50 degree water in the Spring to
change a prop - I'll watch. :)

Ever swim at Revere Beach or Nantasket? I did when I was a kid. I doubt
I could tolerate it in August these days.


Devreaux Beach which might as well be the same - it's about six miles
apart. :)

All I know is that I hate being cold - I'm cold when the wood stove is
cranking and it's 75 in the house. Mrs. Wave thinks I'm a freak of
nature - which I am.

God's honest truth - at night, I've got two down comforters, one
thermal blanket, a flannel blanket and I wear socks to keep my feet
warm and have been known to wear jersey gloves when my hands get cold.
Mrs. Wave has maybe a sheet and the flannel blanket covering her -
maybe. Plus the temp is set for 62 overnight and goes up to 75 at 0445
for a 0500 wake up because if I get a chill from a cold room, the rest
of my day, and everybody else's, will be ruined. :)

Even when I was a kid, I would wear a thin wet suit over a heavier wet
suit when diving. Later on, I wore dry suits even during the summer.

I have no internal temperature regulation at all - I'm always cold.
About the only time I'm not cold is when the temp is in the mid-80s -
then I'm fairly comfortable.



You could be...a reptile. Is your skin scaly?

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 10:15 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:31:32 -0500, Boater wrote:

...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)


Your wife is getting pretty good. I see the mud and sand in the shallow
areas of BP marina have done their work on your propeller. Maybe some day
they'll dredge that place again.

Anyway, as usual that Canon is doing a fine job. The propeller cover is
almost in perfect focus.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

Boater November 25th 08 10:16 PM

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JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:31:32 -0500, Boater wrote:

...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)


Your wife is getting pretty good. I see the mud and sand in the shallow
areas of BP marina have done their work on your propeller. Maybe some day
they'll dredge that place again.

Anyway, as usual that Canon is doing a fine job. The propeller cover is
almost in perfect focus.



Let's see. You've never seen me launch or retrieve my boat, so you
obviously are not away that I do not power the boat onto the trailer.
You've never seen or met my wife, yet you comment about her. You think
the photo I posted today was taken with a Canon camera. You're wrong
about that, too.

No wonder we got our asses kicked in Vietnam. Officers like you were too
stupid to lead.


Boater November 25th 08 10:19 PM

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JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:46:03 -0500, Boater wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Idiot.
Are you talking about me or Mercury Marine? If you want the link to
their quote let me know.


You have to guess?

Idiot.


Harry, Reggie was trying very hard to be nice to you. I think he's seeing
the primer used to hold that black paint to your stainless (?) prop. It
does resemble rust, but the picture is not in focus enough to be sure.



Let's see some more photos of your wife, Herring. Better use that
ultra-wide lens, eh?

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 10:19 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:46:03 -0500, Boater wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


Idiot.


Are you talking about me or Mercury Marine? If you want the link to
their quote let me know.



You have to guess?

Idiot.


Harry, Reggie was trying very hard to be nice to you. I think he's seeing
the primer used to hold that black paint to your stainless (?) prop. It
does resemble rust, but the picture is not in focus enough to be sure.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 10:21 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:29:36 -0500, Boater wrote:

Jim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg



Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for
the shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust
after the motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've
got to spend a few minutes removing the rust from the prop and
repainting it. One of these days I'll find a prop paint that
actually stays on the blade tips. :)

What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props
(much older than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I have
had some dings removed, and it has touched the bottom a time or
two, but has never shown a hint of rust. Is rust on aluminum
props common in salt water?


Jesus. Are you a graduate of the John Herring School of Marine
Engine Ignorance?

"...rust on the aluminum prop."

D'oh.

I think you said you were going to spend a few minutes removing rust
from the aluminiun prop. I could tell you how it could get there but
I won't.


Uh, no...I did not say I was going to remove rust from my "aluminum"
prop. I did not mention the material from which the prop was
fabricated. Obviously, the prop is...steel.


It sure was nice of you to start an on topic post. I learn something
new all the time, I had no idea they painted SS props. All of the SS
props I have seen have been polished stainless steel (a silver or
chrome appearance) and they have never had a problem with rust. I
have now learned that they also make a brushed Stainless Steel that
has a tendency to rust. What i can't figure out (since I am not a
graduate of Marine Engine School) why anyone would buy a brushed
stainless steel prop when he has never been successful in finding a
paint that will actually stay on the prop and he knows that the
brushed finish will rust. I guess different strokes for different folks.

He probably opted for the cheaper grade prop because he knew he was
going to paint it. Notice he said steel. We won't know for sure it's
stainless until he volunteers the info.



There you go again.

I didn't "opt" for any particular prop. What I did do was discuss props
with the Parker factory before my boat was shipped. I was emailed some
prop performance charts, and after additional discussion, my contact at
Parker made a recommendation. I said "you betcha," and was pleased that
the performance numbers he quoted me were right on the money.

You are acting as if the "rust" bothers me a lot. It doesn't. It's just
a little something I will attend to this week.

Of course, if *you* actually had a boat, you might be spending some time
with it, eh?


Wow. It really *is* rust?

Learn something new daily. Was it a whole lot cheaper than a shiny
stainless prop? Was this the only prop in that size or something?
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

Boater November 25th 08 10:30 PM

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JohnH wrote:


Learn something new daily. Was it a whole lot cheaper than a shiny
stainless prop? Was this the only prop in that size or something?



I have no idea what it sells for. It was included with the boat, and was
one of four or five different props Parker recommended. Whichever prop I
picked would have been "included."

The prop has performed very well for me. I have no plans to replace it.

Oh...got my invoice for the winterizing...no two cycle oil used in the
oil and filter change, and no WD-40 for "fogging oil."

Do you even know what parts and supplies should be replaced on your
outboard for a proper winterizing? Are you planning to hook the engine
up to your Yamaha computer program to determine if everything is up to
snuff?

Or are you going to do your usual...ignore maintenance until it breaks.




Tom Francis - SWSports November 25th 08 10:30 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:53:47 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.


No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop?
What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?


It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.


Come on, you're a Marine. Unbolt the motor, lift into the boat, change the
freakin' prop, reinstall the motor and you're on your way.

You can do it, we know you can. Bad back you say, wear a brace. 8)


Good point.

Then again, isn't that what Squids are for - to fix the stuff we
break?

D.Duck November 25th 08 10:33 PM

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:53:47 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the
case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.


No, no. We are all concerned with your prop. You have a steel prop?
What
kind of steel? Stainless steel?
What grade of Stainless steel?

This is serious. If that steel prop is rusting already, you might get
stranded 50 yards offshore in the Bay.
What else is rusting?

Do you carry a spare prop in case of an emergency?

It's a Yamaha.

Probably carries a spare engine for those circumstances. :)

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.


Come on, you're a Marine. Unbolt the motor, lift into the boat, change
the
freakin' prop, reinstall the motor and you're on your way.

You can do it, we know you can. Bad back you say, wear a brace. 8)


Good point.

Then again, isn't that what Squids are for - to fix the stuff we
break?


Good point. I'll put one in my tool bag.



JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 10:55 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "RG" wrote:


With that huge transom cut out, and the operator's endless supply of hot
air, why not just do away with the outboard entirely and have the skipper
lay prostrate across the transom facing aft, in the relative comfort and
security of the cut out and blow bubbles into the nearby water, creating a
surprisingly efficient jet drive. It's green, economical, infinitely
renewable, offers a low carbon footprint, and can't possibly look any more
ridiculous to the average bystander than the current program.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


Because the skipper is a fat lard ass......

Have you seen the size of that transom notch? It's huge. Plenty of room.
Although I do agree that my proposal does make the boat undesirably heavy in
the stern. However, that can be offset by laying in some appropriate
ballast forward. Perhaps a nice four-stroke Honda mounted on the bow would
provide both the necessary weight balance, and some utility as well. I'm
thinking a Civic coupe should just about do it.


Or...or...get ready...

....a perch for a Karusii Liesallthetime Marylandus!

Those are, from what I understand, *big* mothers. Maybe a MOAB (mother of
all birds) in and of itself. Also, he'd never need a foghorn.

Hell, I may patent this idea.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 10:56 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:53:19 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:49:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

why anyone would buy a brushed stainless steel
prop when he has never been successful in finding a paint that will
actually stay on the prop and he knows that the brushed finish will
rust.

The brushed stainless props are usually closer to the 304 end of
hardness, the shiny ones are more like 316 that is not as hard. (there
are really lots of stainless alloys)
If you never hit anything you probably want shiny with thin blades for
performance. Folks who live around shallow water want it to be a tad
bit harder with thicker blades, giving up a little speed for
durability. That shiny, thin blade prop loses a lot of its performance
edge when it gets a few dings in it.

The other reason I have heard of painting props is to trick thieves
into thinking it is aluminum and maybe they won't steal it but I am
not sure that works


I would think all the rust would be a giveaway that the prop wasn't genuine
aluminum!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 10:59 PM

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:17:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
m...
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the motor
drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)


What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props (much older
than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I have had some dings
removed, and it has touched the bottom a time or two, but has never shown
a hint of rust. Is rust on aluminum props common in salt water?

As far as painting the props, my props started to lose their paint in the
first year, and I asked the mechanic if I should touch them up. His
comment was that the new paint would "spin off" as soon as i put the boat
back in the water. Don't know if that is true, but it sure has save me
the trouble of repainting the prop. Based upon your experience repainting
props, he was correct. When I have had the prop dings smoothed out and
balanced, the prop shop never bothers to repaint the props for the same
reason.



That's not rust. It's probably a primer paint for aluminum.

Eisboch


Too late. Harry already said, "You are acting as if the "rust" bothers me a
lot. It doesn't. It's just a little something I will attend to this week."

I just hope the rust doesn't go all the way under the paint.

--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 11:00 PM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:50:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:17:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the motor
drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)
What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props (much older
than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I have had some dings
removed, and it has touched the bottom a time or two, but has never shown
a hint of rust. Is rust on aluminum props common in salt water?

As far as painting the props, my props started to lose their paint in the
first year, and I asked the mechanic if I should touch them up. His
comment was that the new paint would "spin off" as soon as i put the boat
back in the water. Don't know if that is true, but it sure has save me
the trouble of repainting the prop. Based upon your experience repainting
props, he was correct. When I have had the prop dings smoothed out and
balanced, the prop shop never bothers to repaint the props for the same
reason.
That's not rust. It's probably a primer paint for aluminum.


I've had stainless props for a long time - never quite understood the
need to paint them.

Unless it's a less expensive type of stainless - then I could
understand it, but why go cheap on the prop?


It is the less expensive SS prop. It is called "Brushed SS". I had
never heard of them, but they do have a tendency to rust, as Harry has
highlighted from his photo. I for one would only buy the non rusting
version of SS prop.


If you had a brushed, rusted, stainless steel prop, a lot more people would
talk to you.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 11:03 PM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:12:45 -0500, Jim wrote:

Boater wrote:
....little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)


Actually the prop looks great. If you hadn't done a little clam digging
with it, there would probably be no signs of paint wear at all. That is
a lightly used prop. Probably never run over 3500 rpm either. You take
very good care of your equipment.


The wear is due to the place he keeps his boat having very shallow water.
Once out of the main channel, which is pretty shallow anyway, the water
gets shallow very quickly.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 11:04 PM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:32:22 -0500, Boater wrote:

RG wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
RG wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
I rarely run the motor at more than 4250-4500 rpm. There's no reason to
do so. Doing so just burns more fuel and wears out the motor faster. I
also wash the boat out and flush the motor with fresh water after every
use.

I'm sure the owner genuinely appreciates your dedication, diligence and
general servitude. It will surely help protect her investment.

Shouldn't you be out selling overpriced annuities?


How many would you like? Please bring a note from you-know-who stating that
you are authorized to make such a purchase.



What are you raving about now? Did you have a stroke or something like
that? You used to be close to rational in your posts here.


What did he say that was irrational?
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

JohnH[_3_] November 25th 08 11:06 PM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:15:20 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:45:13 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:31:32 -0500, Boater
wrote:

...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg



Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a
few minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of
these days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade
tips. :)

What sand bar did you run through? :)


I wish I had...as far as I know, I've not touched bottom with the lower
unit. It still has *all* its original paint.

It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.


Oh, I thought that was the reason you posted the photo? If not, why in
the world did you post the photo? From you comments you have made so
far, it looks like you just used the photo as bait to insult people


Some people are extremely easy targets for that.


Was the thread to himself, or you?

How's the NAMBLA world doing?
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] November 25th 08 11:20 PM

On topic photos...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.

Didn't the Marine Corps teach you how to swim?


Actually, no. I learned at the Milwaukee YMCA swim club when I was
four.

All the Marine Corps taught me was how not to sink with a field pack -
which, by the way, was something that I already knew how to do. That
was the one thing I never had any trouble with - swimming that is.


A requirement to graduate from Columbia University is to swim the width
of the East River (at it's widest point). Many years ago, they actually
had to swim the East River, for some reason, they now allow you to swim
the distance in the pool.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] November 25th 08 11:22 PM

On topic photos...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:54:12 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Nope, not only did I vote for Obama,


Communist. :)

Mrs. Wave, for the first time ever since we've been married, voted for
McCain.

I actually convinced her that was the better choice.

Well, that and the fact that (1) Hillary wasn't the nominee and (2)
she was not impressed with his performance at the NEA convention and
felt that he was taking the NEA endorsement for granted.

I still like to pretend that it was my convincing argument for McCain
that did it. :)


That was some real salesmanship. ;)


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] November 25th 08 11:23 PM

On topic photos...
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:56:04 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

I don't think you can call me a right-wing piece of ****. I voted
for Obama
Liar.
Nope, not only did I vote for Obama,

Liar.


Hey, just because Reggie is a lib, don't mean he has to like you.

--Vic


I am not a lib, I am an Independent.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] November 25th 08 11:29 PM

On topic photos...
 
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:50:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:17:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the motor
drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)
What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props (much older
than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I have had some dings
removed, and it has touched the bottom a time or two, but has never shown
a hint of rust. Is rust on aluminum props common in salt water?

As far as painting the props, my props started to lose their paint in the
first year, and I asked the mechanic if I should touch them up. His
comment was that the new paint would "spin off" as soon as i put the boat
back in the water. Don't know if that is true, but it sure has save me
the trouble of repainting the prop. Based upon your experience repainting
props, he was correct. When I have had the prop dings smoothed out and
balanced, the prop shop never bothers to repaint the props for the same
reason.
That's not rust. It's probably a primer paint for aluminum.
I've had stainless props for a long time - never quite understood the
need to paint them.

Unless it's a less expensive type of stainless - then I could
understand it, but why go cheap on the prop?

It is the less expensive SS prop. It is called "Brushed SS". I had
never heard of them, but they do have a tendency to rust, as Harry has
highlighted from his photo. I for one would only buy the non rusting
version of SS prop.


If you had a brushed, rusted, stainless steel prop, a lot more people would
talk to you.


I thought it was my personality that kept everyone away, either that or
my politics. It couldn't be because I am an antisocial SOB.

I have aluminum props, no rust, and very easy to repair any nick or ding
I might get on a floating log. I am such a newbie, I had no idea that SS
props rusted. I learn something new everyday.

Tom Francis - SWSports November 26th 08 12:01 AM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:20:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.
Didn't the Marine Corps teach you how to swim?


Actually, no. I learned at the Milwaukee YMCA swim club when I was
four.

All the Marine Corps taught me was how not to sink with a field pack -
which, by the way, was something that I already knew how to do. That
was the one thing I never had any trouble with - swimming that is.


A requirement to graduate from Columbia University is to swim the width
of the East River (at it's widest point). Many years ago, they actually
had to swim the East River, for some reason, they now allow you to swim
the distance in the pool.


I thought that was some kind of urban legend.

Boater November 26th 08 12:17 AM

On topic photos...
 
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:12:45 -0500, Jim wrote:

Boater wrote:
....little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)

Actually the prop looks great. If you hadn't done a little clam digging
with it, there would probably be no signs of paint wear at all. That is
a lightly used prop. Probably never run over 3500 rpm either. You take
very good care of your equipment.


The wear is due to the place he keeps his boat having very shallow water.
Once out of the main channel, which is pretty shallow anyway, the water
gets shallow very quickly.



You are absolutely completely full of schitt...as usual.

Boater November 26th 08 12:19 AM

On topic photos...
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:20:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


A requirement to graduate from Columbia University is to swim the width
of the East River (at it's widest point). Many years ago, they actually
had to swim the East River, for some reason, they now allow you to swim
the distance in the pool.



Since schitt floats, that would have been easy for you.

Wayne.B November 26th 08 12:34 AM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:37:02 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

All I know is that I hate being cold - I'm cold when the wood stove is
cranking and it's 75 in the house. Mrs. Wave thinks I'm a freak of
nature - which I am.


You need to get more computers. My office is always the warmest room
in the house.


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] November 26th 08 01:09 AM

On topic photos...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:20:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.
Didn't the Marine Corps teach you how to swim?
Actually, no. I learned at the Milwaukee YMCA swim club when I was
four.

All the Marine Corps taught me was how not to sink with a field pack -
which, by the way, was something that I already knew how to do. That
was the one thing I never had any trouble with - swimming that is.

A requirement to graduate from Columbia University is to swim the width
of the East River (at it's widest point). Many years ago, they actually
had to swim the East River, for some reason, they now allow you to swim
the distance in the pool.


I thought that was some kind of urban legend.


Nope, and you have 4 yrs to fulfill the requirement. Take a guess when
most students take the test?


Tom Francis - SWSports November 26th 08 01:14 AM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:34:55 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:37:02 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

All I know is that I hate being cold - I'm cold when the wood stove is
cranking and it's 75 in the house. Mrs. Wave thinks I'm a freak of
nature - which I am.


You need to get more computers. My office is always the warmest room
in the house.


With the radios, stereo, two computers and various other electrical
vampires in my office, it does stay warmer than the rest of the house.

Not enough though. :)

Tom Francis - SWSports November 26th 08 01:15 AM

On topic photos...
 
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:09:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:20:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Which brings up an interesting point - I carry a spare prop, but last
summer it occurred to me that I've never tried to change it in the
middle of the lake.

Guess what - I can't. It's too far back for me to reach in the fully
tilted up position.
Didn't the Marine Corps teach you how to swim?
Actually, no. I learned at the Milwaukee YMCA swim club when I was
four.

All the Marine Corps taught me was how not to sink with a field pack -
which, by the way, was something that I already knew how to do. That
was the one thing I never had any trouble with - swimming that is.
A requirement to graduate from Columbia University is to swim the width
of the East River (at it's widest point). Many years ago, they actually
had to swim the East River, for some reason, they now allow you to swim
the distance in the pool.


I thought that was some kind of urban legend.


Nope, and you have 4 yrs to fulfill the requirement. Take a guess when
most students take the test?


First year?

Tim November 26th 08 01:56 AM

On topic photos...
 
On Nov 25, 11:44*am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:31:32 -0500, Boater
wrote:

...little place for them here, eh?


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/ce0a1de...


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. *:)


Why paint a stainless prop? Surface rust on 304 SS is normal ... if
you don't boat a lot. It really isn't hurting anything. If I am out of
town for a few weeks and not boating I see a little on mine. It buffs
right off after an hour or so of running


I dont worry about mine. If it has blades, it goes.


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