How long in the desert?
 

On Nov 24, 8:05*pm, Boater wrote:
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On Nov 24, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

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That was one of the questions asked at a breakfast meeting I attended
today with a financial services client and a couple of others across the
river in Alexandria.
More specifically, how long will the Republicans be wandering in the
desert until they can elect a president again?
Consensus: *16-20 years, minimum, and maybe never unless the party makes
significant changes in its attitudes towards Latinos, blacks, social
issues.
The financial services guy manages several funds, including a large-cap
fund. He thinks many of today's large-cap corporations will never come
back, and if there is a market rebound, the smaller corporations will lead
the way. His advice to me: stay the hell away from "the market."
Oh...the financial times we're in right now...some fund managers are
referring to it as the "Bush Recession," and others, the "Bush
Depression."
You should have asked them if the Red Sox will win the pennant next year.

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Well, if they get the "censorship doctrine" (fairness doctrine) and
keep funding voter fraud through ACORN, it could indeed be a while
before republicans are able to speak their point of view...

Are you actually stating that reich-wing Republican radio is all that
the GOP has to reach its troops? You boys are betting the future of the
party on the drug-taking boil known as Rush Limbaugh?- Hide quoted text -

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Oh wait, riech wing, druggie, fundie,,, just thought I would give you
a start on your bull**** deflection..

How long in the desert?
 

How long in the desert?
 

On Nov 24, 8:05*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 24, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...

That was one of the questions asked at a breakfast meeting I attended
today with a financial services client and a couple of others across the
river in Alexandria.
More specifically, how long will the Republicans be wandering in the
desert until they can elect a president again?
Consensus: *16-20 years, minimum, and maybe never unless the party makes
significant changes in its attitudes towards Latinos, blacks, social
issues.
The financial services guy manages several funds, including a large-cap
fund. He thinks many of today's large-cap corporations will never come
back, and if there is a market rebound, the smaller corporations will lead
the way. His advice to me: stay the hell away from "the market."
Oh...the financial times we're in right now...some fund managers are
referring to it as the "Bush Recession," and others, the "Bush
Depression."
You should have asked them if the Red Sox will win the pennant next year.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Well, if they get the "censorship doctrine" (fairness doctrine) and
keep funding voter fraud through ACORN, it could indeed be a while
before republicans are able to speak their point of view...

Are you actually stating that reich-wing Republican radio is all that
the GOP has to reach its troops? You boys are betting the future of the
party on the drug-taking boil known as Rush Limbaugh?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The censorship already started. The bully squads of prosecutors and
staties that threatened TV moguls if they ran NRA ads to "froghop"
them out of their stations. The Biden and DNC lies about the little
station in Florida which dared to ask questions of Biden, calling them
"The Nework" and cutting them off. The reporters who dared ask
questions or worked for media that was not lock step being thrown off
the plane in lieu of more "friendly" reporters.. The Washington Times
admitting they did not ask questions because in their own words, they
were "in the tank" for Obama..The criminal charges against public
officials for illegally going into "Joe the Plumbers' past, just
because he has an opposing point of view which is not allowed by the
incoming administration..Yeah, try to deflect it to "right wing radio"
but that's bull, it's anybody who dares asks

How long in the desert?
 

How long in the desert?
 

On Nov 24, 8:23*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 24, 8:05 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 24, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
That was one of the questions asked at a breakfast meeting I attended
today with a financial services client and a couple of others across the
river in Alexandria.
More specifically, how long will the Republicans be wandering in the
desert until they can elect a president again?
Consensus: *16-20 years, minimum, and maybe never unless the party makes
significant changes in its attitudes towards Latinos, blacks, social
issues.
The financial services guy manages several funds, including a large-cap
fund. He thinks many of today's large-cap corporations will never come
back, and if there is a market rebound, the smaller corporations will lead
the way. His advice to me: stay the hell away from "the market."
Oh...the financial times we're in right now...some fund managers are
referring to it as the "Bush Recession," and others, the "Bush
Depression."
You should have asked them if the Red Sox will win the pennant next year.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
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Well, if they get the "censorship doctrine" (fairness doctrine) and
keep funding voter fraud through ACORN, it could indeed be a while
before republicans are able to speak their point of view...
Are you actually stating that reich-wing Republican radio is all that
the GOP has to reach its troops? You boys are betting the future of the
party on the drug-taking boil known as Rush Limbaugh?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The censorship already started. The bully squads of prosecutors and
staties that threatened TV moguls if they ran NRA ads to "froghop"
them out of their stations. The Biden and DNC lies about the little
station in Florida which dared to ask questions of Biden, calling them
"The Nework" and cutting them off. The reporters who dared ask
questions or worked for media that was not lock step being thrown off
the plane in lieu of more "friendly" reporters.. The Washington Times
admitting they did not ask questions because in their own words, they
were "in the tank" for Obama..The criminal charges against public
officials for illegally going into "Joe the Plumbers' past, just
because he has an opposing point of view which is not allowed by the
incoming administration..Yeah, try to deflect it to "right wing radio"
but that's bull, it's anybody who dares asks

That would be...Joe the Unlicensed Plumber.- Hide quoted text -

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That would be some hard working dude that did not suck union ass...
That would be an American citizen who's civil rights were trashed by
the Obama machine for simply asking a question..

How long in the desert?
 

How long in the desert?
 

On Nov 24, 8:36*pm, Boater wrote:
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On Nov 24, 8:23 pm, Boater wrote:
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That would be...Joe the Unlicensed Plumber.- Hide quoted text -

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That would be some hard working dude that did not suck union ass...
That would be an American citizen who's civil rights were trashed by
the Obama machine for simply asking a question..

If he were that hard-working a plumber, he'd be doing a lot better than
he is. Most of the working union plumbers I know, and I know a lot of
them, are making $70,000 and more a year. Joe the non-union unlicensed
plumber is making less than half that, if memory serves.

He's either not very hard-working or not very skilled, or the unlicensed
plumber for whom he works is a lousy businessman.

Then there's that whole trashing his civil rights thing, that whole he
is an American thing. If "hard working" was a problem, half of the
folks who voted Obama would not have...

How long in the desert?
 

On Nov 24, 8:39*pm, wrote:
On Nov 24, 8:36*pm, Boater wrote:





wrote:
On Nov 24, 8:23 pm, Boater wrote:
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That would be...Joe the Unlicensed Plumber.- Hide quoted text -

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That would be some hard working dude that did not suck union ass...
That would be an American citizen who's civil rights were trashed by
the Obama machine for simply asking a question..

If he were that hard-working a plumber, he'd be doing a lot better than
he is. Most of the working union plumbers I know, and I know a lot of
them, are making $70,000 and more a year. Joe the non-union unlicensed
plumber is making less than half that, if memory serves.

He's either not very hard-working or not very skilled, or the unlicensed
plumber for whom he works is a lousy businessman.

Then there's that whole trashing his civil rights thing, that whole he
is an American thing. If "hard working" was a problem, half of the
folks who voted Obama would not have...- Hide quoted text -

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I mean, you have never done an honest days work and you voted for
him....

How long in the desert?
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:36:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 24, 8:23 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:

That would be...Joe the Unlicensed Plumber.- Hide quoted text -

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That would be some hard working dude that did not suck union ass...
That would be an American citizen who's civil rights were trashed by
the Obama machine for simply asking a question..


If he were that hard-working a plumber, he'd be doing a lot better than
he is. Most of the working union plumbers I know, and I know a lot of
them, are making $70,000 and more a year. Joe the non-union unlicensed
plumber is making less than half that, if memory serves.

He's either not very hard-working or not very skilled, or the unlicensed
plumber for whom he works is a lousy businessman.

Speaking of plumbers. Had the union plumber who replaced my Tramco
lift system pump out to the house again. Wrote about that before.
47 year old pump replaced. Plumber has seminary training.
Anyway the thing started chattering. HAD TO BE A BAD PUMP.
Usually only happened when draining warm water from the tub.
Very loud.
I figured something was off with impeller/casing clearances.
I even recorded the noise and played it on the phone for Peter
so he could bring a new unit, saving him a trip.
It's AT LEAST a 3 hour round trip, and his time ain't cheap.
He listens to my recording, and says he'll come out to check it.
He say's they never go bad unless they get a rag in them.
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE!
Only one teen in the house now, and nobody here, or anybody I know
even, is stupid enough to let a rag go down the toilet.
So he drives out and gets to work. We can't duplicate the noise, even
with hot tub water.
But he hears it's not right, and pulls the pump. PITA.
Lays it down on the rags and says "There it is."
A F%^KING RAG IS IN THE PUMP.
He had to dissasemble the pump head to get what was wrapped around the
shaft past the impeller/chopper. Of course everybody denies they did
it, and I believe them.
No choice anyway. Only thing I can figure is a guest soiled their
underwear and took the easy way out. Didn't know everything goes
through a pump. Maybe I should put up a sign.
Peter worked nearly 4 hours and spent at least 3 hours in bad
Chicago/suburb traffic.
Charged me $290, apologizing.
I just said don't......you're a prince of a guy.

--Vic

How long in the desert?
 

On Nov 24, 9:04*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:36:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:





wrote:
On Nov 24, 8:23 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:

That would be...Joe the Unlicensed Plumber.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That would be some hard working dude that did not suck union ass...
That would be an American citizen who's civil rights were trashed by
the Obama machine for simply asking a question..

If he were that hard-working a plumber, he'd be doing a lot better than
he is. Most of the working union plumbers I know, and I know a lot of
them, are making $70,000 and more a year. Joe the non-union unlicensed
plumber is making less than half that, if memory serves.

He's either not very hard-working or not very skilled, or the unlicensed
plumber for whom he works is a lousy businessman.

Speaking of plumbers. *Had the union plumber who replaced my Tramco
lift system pump out to the house again. *Wrote about that before.
47 year old pump replaced. *Plumber has seminary training.
Anyway the thing started chattering. *HAD TO BE A BAD PUMP.
Usually only happened when draining warm water from the tub.
Very loud.
I figured something was off with impeller/casing clearances.
I even recorded the noise and played it on the phone for Peter
so he could bring a new unit, saving him a trip.
It's AT LEAST a 3 hour round trip, and his time ain't cheap.
He listens to my recording, and says he'll come out to check it.
He say's they never go bad unless they get a rag in them.
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE!
Only one teen in the house now, and nobody here, or anybody I know
even, is stupid enough to let a rag go down the toilet.
So he drives out and gets to work. *We can't duplicate the noise, even
with hot tub water.
But he hears it's not right, and pulls the pump. *PITA.
Lays it down on the rags and says "There it is."
A F%^KING RAG IS IN THE PUMP.
He had to dissasemble the pump head to get what was wrapped around the
shaft past the impeller/chopper. *Of course everybody denies they did
it, and I believe them.
No choice anyway. *Only thing I can figure is a guest soiled their
underwear and took the easy way out. *Didn't know everything goes
through a pump. *Maybe I should put up a sign.
Peter worked nearly 4 hours and spent at least 3 hours in bad
Chicago/suburb traffic.
Charged me $290, apologizing.
I just said don't......you're a prince of a guy.

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Did you trash his civil rights? Did he earn enough to gain the respect
of our WAFA?? Hummmmm...