"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:02:47 -0500, Boater wrote:


In fact, I'd bet the factory workers drank a lot less during their
shifts than, say, military personnel.




That's something I've never seen, military personnel drinking while on
duty. We would often go to the club for lunch, but I've never seen anyone
order a beer or anything harder if they were going back to work.

Not to say it doesn't happen. But, in my experience it's pretty rare.


I agree John. It does occur, but not often and in very isolated cases.
The ramifications of drinking while on duty or during normal working hours
in the military are far more serious and severe than any I've witnessed as a
civilian.

Hell, us Navy guys couldn't even (legally) have beer, booze or wine aboard
the ship, underway or in port.

But, here's a sea tale. Not really a sea tale, because it happened at a
shore station, but:

The day I reported for duty at a communications station in Puerto Rico, I
met with the senior enlisted dude in charge of the transmitter site. He was
a crusty old Senior Chief Petty Officer (E-8) with about 25 years in the
Navy. I sat down in his office as he welcomed me aboard and then pulled a
bottle of rum or vodka (can't remember which) out of his desk drawer and
told me to go buy a couple of Cokes out of the vending machine. Smart
enough not to refuse, I went out and got the Cokes. He took the cans, and
poured most of the Coke out in his wastebasket, and filled the cans back up
with the booze. He offered a welcome again, and was about to drink it when
he was interrupted by somebody coming in the office.
It was a personal matter, so I excused myself and left his office, quickly
went to the vending area and bought another Coke, throwing the booze filled
can away.

When the other guy left, he yelled for me to come back in, raised his Coke
can and took a drink.
He watched me as I raised my can to him in a silent toast and then chugged
the whole 12 oz's of Coke down in one long drink.

He got a grin on his face, we shook hands and I left. Turns out he was on
his way out of the Navy and retired about 3 weeks later.

Eisboch

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:51:38 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:02:47 -0500, Boater wrote:


In fact, I'd bet the factory workers drank a lot less during their
shifts than, say, military personnel.




That's something I've never seen, military personnel drinking while on
duty. We would often go to the club for lunch, but I've never seen anyone
order a beer or anything harder if they were going back to work.

Not to say it doesn't happen. But, in my experience it's pretty rare.


I agree John. It does occur, but not often and in very isolated cases.
The ramifications of drinking while on duty or during normal working hours
in the military are far more serious and severe than any I've witnessed as a
civilian.

Hell, us Navy guys couldn't even (legally) have beer, booze or wine aboard
the ship, underway or in port.

But, here's a sea tale. Not really a sea tale, because it happened at a
shore station, but:

The day I reported for duty at a communications station in Puerto Rico, I
met with the senior enlisted dude in charge of the transmitter site. He was
a crusty old Senior Chief Petty Officer (E-8) with about 25 years in the
Navy. I sat down in his office as he welcomed me aboard and then pulled a
bottle of rum or vodka (can't remember which) out of his desk drawer and
told me to go buy a couple of Cokes out of the vending machine. Smart
enough not to refuse, I went out and got the Cokes. He took the cans, and
poured most of the Coke out in his wastebasket, and filled the cans back up
with the booze. He offered a welcome again, and was about to drink it when
he was interrupted by somebody coming in the office.
It was a personal matter, so I excused myself and left his office, quickly
went to the vending area and bought another Coke, throwing the booze filled
can away.

When the other guy left, he yelled for me to come back in, raised his Coke
can and took a drink.
He watched me as I raised my can to him in a silent toast and then chugged
the whole 12 oz's of Coke down in one long drink.

He got a grin on his face, we shook hands and I left. Turns out he was on
his way out of the Navy and retired about 3 weeks later.

Eisboch


Good story.

I knew several that I considered alcoholics (several of them thought the
same of themselves), but I never knew any of them to drink while on duty,
and that includes lunch.

Much different from the civilian world where a drink at lunch is pretty
ordinary. (I've heard)
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

Eisboch wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:02:47 -0500, Boater wrote:

In fact, I'd bet the factory workers drank a lot less during their
shifts than, say, military personnel.



That's something I've never seen, military personnel drinking while on
duty. We would often go to the club for lunch, but I've never seen anyone
order a beer or anything harder if they were going back to work.

Not to say it doesn't happen. But, in my experience it's pretty rare.


I agree John. It does occur, but not often and in very isolated cases.
The ramifications of drinking while on duty or during normal working hours
in the military are far more serious and severe than any I've witnessed as a
civilian.

Hell, us Navy guys couldn't even (legally) have beer, booze or wine aboard
the ship, underway or in port.

Sailors have been known to smuggle booze aboard at the end of liberty;
carefully concealed and already partially processed. :-)

"Jim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


Sailors have been known to smuggle booze aboard at the end of liberty;
carefully concealed and already partially processed. :-)


And every senior Petty Officer ('specially the Chiefs) knew all the
techniques.
They'd confiscate it on the quarterdeck to add to their private stash in the
Chief's quarters.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Sailors have been known to smuggle booze aboard at the end of liberty;
carefully concealed and already partially processed. :-)


And every senior Petty Officer ('specially the Chiefs) knew all the
techniques.
They'd confiscate it on the quarterdeck to add to their private stash in the
Chief's quarters.

Eisboch


That's true, but I gotta say "wooossshhhh"

On Nov 23, 6:26*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Nov 23, 5:34 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





I am sitting here watching CNN and they are doing a piece on jobs.

They just showed a bar located next to a GM assembly plant.
It was lunch time and the place was deserted.

The owner told the reporter that before the problem and job cuts at GM,
the
bar would be packed at lunch time and she would have one full time
bartender
plus 3 backups to handle the crowd.

Hmmmm.

Kinda glad I didn't buy a GM car assembled in the afternoon, back when
business was good.

Eisboch

I'm surprised a man of your so-called " wealth " has only THIS to talk
about....must be a slow day.

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Don't worry, he'll soon get back to his vulgar low life filth and name
calling.

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:25:56 -0500, "Eisboch"
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


Sailors have been known to smuggle booze aboard at the end of liberty;
carefully concealed and already partially processed. :-)


And every senior Petty Officer ('specially the Chiefs) knew all the
techniques.
They'd confiscate it on the quarterdeck to add to their private stash in the
Chief's quarters.

Biggest scandal on my 3 1/2 year can tour was an RM6 getting
caught with a bottle aboard. Busted to RM4.
Had a guy jump overboard at a small Italian port once, and an officer
busted and removed for something or other.
But the RM6 was the big deal. Absolutely scandalous.
Later in the reserves in the mid-70's guys were getting busted and
brigged left and right for drugs. Entirely different Navy.
I suspect the Chiefs kept some private stock in the Chief lounge, but
never gave it much thought. Hardly ever saw the BT Chiefs.
By the time I crawled aboard after a liberty and sobered up, I didn't
really want to think much about hootch - it could wait for the next
liberty.

--Vic

On Nov 23, 6:26*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Nov 23, 5:34 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





I am sitting here watching CNN and they are doing a piece on jobs.

They just showed a bar located next to a GM assembly plant.
It was lunch time and the place was deserted.

The owner told the reporter that before the problem and job cuts at GM,
the
bar would be packed at lunch time and she would have one full time
bartender
plus 3 backups to handle the crowd.

Hmmmm.

Kinda glad I didn't buy a GM car assembled in the afternoon, back when
business was good.

Eisboch

I'm surprised a man of your so-called " wealth " has only THIS to talk
about....must be a slow day.

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My, My. *How clever. * How long did it take you to think this little comment
up?

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As long as your wife said it took you to " get it up " Took me a week,
dip****. And, unlike you, I didnt eat any Viagra.

On Nov 24, 11:36*am, wrote:
On Nov 23, 6:26*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





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On Nov 23, 5:34 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

I am sitting here watching CNN and they are doing a piece on jobs.

They just showed a bar located next to a GM assembly plant.
It was lunch time and the place was deserted.

The owner told the reporter that before the problem and job cuts at GM,
the
bar would be packed at lunch time and she would have one full time
bartender
plus 3 backups to handle the crowd.

Hmmmm.

Kinda glad I didn't buy a GM car assembled in the afternoon, back when
business was good.

Eisboch

I'm surprised a man of your so-called " wealth " has only THIS to talk
about....must be a slow day.

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My, My. *How clever. * How long did it take you to think this little comment
up?

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Only to you, loogyherring

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:25:56 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Jim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


Sailors have been known to smuggle booze aboard at the end of liberty;
carefully concealed and already partially processed. :-)


And every senior Petty Officer ('specially the Chiefs) knew all the
techniques.
They'd confiscate it on the quarterdeck to add to their private stash in
the
Chief's quarters.

Biggest scandal on my 3 1/2 year can tour was an RM6 getting
caught with a bottle aboard. Busted to RM4.
Had a guy jump overboard at a small Italian port once, and an officer
busted and removed for something or other.
But the RM6 was the big deal. Absolutely scandalous.
Later in the reserves in the mid-70's guys were getting busted and
brigged left and right for drugs. Entirely different Navy.
I suspect the Chiefs kept some private stock in the Chief lounge, but
never gave it much thought. Hardly ever saw the BT Chiefs.
By the time I crawled aboard after a liberty and sobered up, I didn't
really want to think much about hootch - it could wait for the next
liberty.

--Vic



Back then we had a "don't ask, don't tell" unofficial policy. Not the
same as today's.
I was in when they declared an amnesty for anybody that smoked dope.
They would just kick you out, no questions asked.

But then they had to cancel the policy because they were running out of
people. They decided to "rehabilitate" you instead.

Eisboch