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Boater November 17th 08 10:35 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW

http://www.marker32.com/

Vic Smith November 17th 08 11:36 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW

http://www.marker32.com/



I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.

--Vic

Boater November 17th 08 11:52 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW

http://www.marker32.com/



I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.

--Vic



For reasons I cannot explain, even after living there for six years, the
Jax area has good restaurants all out of proportion to its population or
economic influence. We have at least a dozen favorites down there -
American, Greek, Japanese, Seafood, Chinese, Cuban...lots of them. You
never have to step foot into a chain restaurant.

Surf fishing is pretty easy off the beaches. There are troughs 20 to 30
feet off the beaches that attract pogies, whiting, and other small
fishes, and all the much larger predators that feed on them.

I had two favorite surf fishing spots, one just south of the jetties
where the St. Johns River empties into the Atlantic, and one just north
of St. Augustine Inlet. At the beginning of the jetty right across from
that inlet you could find good flounder fishing.

The climate in Jax was pretty decent for me, too. Not too hot and muggy
in the summer, mild winters, and real long and lovely springs and falls.

Downside is (or maybe was) the crazed fundie churches. They do some
really bizarre stuff down there, and they are hard to ignore. Oh...and
the "football uber alles" mentality.

Jim November 18th 08 12:17 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW

http://www.marker32.com/


RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.

Frogwatch[_2_] November 18th 08 12:56 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Nov 17, 7:17 pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW


http://www.marker32.com/


RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.


My god those collards looked good. I forgot how much I miss em as my
wife is a yank and cant cook em.
Sorry Jim, I always violate Rule #1 when I travel, it makes things
interesting. It has its downsides though "Oh, the speciality is
actual goats head with eyeballs intact".

JohnH[_3_] November 18th 08 01:05 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 17, 7:17 pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW


http://www.marker32.com/


RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.


My god those collards looked good. I forgot how much I miss em as my
wife is a yank and cant cook em.
Sorry Jim, I always violate Rule #1 when I travel, it makes things
interesting. It has its downsides though "Oh, the speciality is
actual goats head with eyeballs intact".


Why the hell don't *you* cook them? My wife can't cook 'em either, but I
have a mess at least twice a month and usually get three meals out of the
mess!

Let me know if interested, and I'll tell you how to do it.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

Boater November 18th 08 01:20 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW

http://www.marker32.com/


RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.



Hmmmm. That would have cut down on my social life when I was single.

Don White November 18th 08 01:39 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 17, 7:17 pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport

http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517

Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW

http://www.marker32.com/

RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.


My god those collards looked good. I forgot how much I miss em as my
wife is a yank and cant cook em.
Sorry Jim, I always violate Rule #1 when I travel, it makes things
interesting. It has its downsides though "Oh, the speciality is
actual goats head with eyeballs intact".


Why the hell don't *you* cook them? My wife can't cook 'em either, but I
have a mess at least twice a month and usually get three meals out of the
mess!

Let me know if interested, and I'll tell you how to do it.
--



Ah.. another Johnny Child recipe.



Frogwatch[_2_] November 18th 08 02:47 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Nov 17, 8:39 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message

...



On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


On Nov 17, 7:17 pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW


http://www.marker32.com/


RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.


My god those collards looked good. I forgot how much I miss em as my
wife is a yank and cant cook em.
Sorry Jim, I always violate Rule #1 when I travel, it makes things
interesting. It has its downsides though "Oh, the speciality is
actual goats head with eyeballs intact".


Why the hell don't *you* cook them? My wife can't cook 'em either, but I
have a mess at least twice a month and usually get three meals out of the
mess!


Let me know if interested, and I'll tell you how to do it.
--


Ah.. another Johnny Child recipe.


My oldest daughter goes to school at UNF in Jacksonville and I keep
thinking I will get my Tolman over there to do some boating but it
hasnt happed. My brother even lives there on the river and I dont get
there much. I kid my daughter about taking the sailboat around FL to
the St. Johns River so she can live on it since she is Pres of the UNF
sailing club but being a chic she needs a real apt.

Boater November 18th 08 03:18 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 17, 8:39 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message

...



On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:17 pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517
Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW
http://www.marker32.com/
RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.
My god those collards looked good. I forgot how much I miss em as my
wife is a yank and cant cook em.
Sorry Jim, I always violate Rule #1 when I travel, it makes things
interesting. It has its downsides though "Oh, the speciality is
actual goats head with eyeballs intact".
Why the hell don't *you* cook them? My wife can't cook 'em either, but I
have a mess at least twice a month and usually get three meals out of the
mess!
Let me know if interested, and I'll tell you how to do it.
--

Ah.. another Johnny Child recipe.


My oldest daughter goes to school at UNF in Jacksonville and I keep
thinking I will get my Tolman over there to do some boating but it
hasnt happed. My brother even lives there on the river and I dont get
there much. I kid my daughter about taking the sailboat around FL to
the St. Johns River so she can live on it since she is Pres of the UNF
sailing club but being a chic she needs a real apt.



There is just fantastic inshore and nearshore fishing in the Jax area.

Frogwatch[_2_] November 18th 08 03:57 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Nov 17, 10:18 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 17, 8:39 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:17 pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517
Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW
http://www.marker32.com/
RULE NUMBER 1:
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT DON'T EAT IT.
My god those collards looked good. I forgot how much I miss em as my
wife is a yank and cant cook em.
Sorry Jim, I always violate Rule #1 when I travel, it makes things
interesting. It has its downsides though "Oh, the speciality is
actual goats head with eyeballs intact".
Why the hell don't *you* cook them? My wife can't cook 'em either, but I
have a mess at least twice a month and usually get three meals out of the
mess!
Let me know if interested, and I'll tell you how to do it.
--
Ah.. another Johnny Child recipe.


My oldest daughter goes to school at UNF in Jacksonville and I keep
thinking I will get my Tolman over there to do some boating but it
hasnt happed. My brother even lives there on the river and I dont get
there much. I kid my daughter about taking the sailboat around FL to
the St. Johns River so she can live on it since she is Pres of the UNF
sailing club but being a chic she needs a real apt.


There is just fantastic inshore and nearshore fishing in the Jax area.


Unfortunately, I am not much of a fisherman. I wanna explore and some
of those arms of the river look interesting. That huge area south of
the I-95 bridge on the river looks great for sailing too.
Yrs ago, Jax was a nasty place but in recent yrs has become a good
place.

[email protected] November 18th 08 01:36 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Nov 17, 6:36*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW


http://www.marker32.com/


I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.

--Vic


Jax is featureless. Miles and miles of mobile home parks,
subdivisions, military bases and the bars that accompany them.

Jim November 18th 08 01:48 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
wrote:
On Nov 17, 6:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517
Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW
http://www.marker32.com/

I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.

--Vic


Jax is featureless. Miles and miles of mobile home parks,
subdivisions, military bases and the bars that accompany them.


They do have s nice waterfront park where you can go sit and eat your
bagged lunch, if you must be in downtown Jacksonville. Tourists might
visit the brewery and then move on down to St. Augustine to do some
dining, sight seeing, and shopping.

Vic Smith November 18th 08 07:58 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:36:38 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Nov 17, 6:36Â*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517

Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW


http://www.marker32.com/


I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.

--Vic


Jax is featureless. Miles and miles of mobile home parks,
subdivisions, military bases and the bars that accompany them.


Never been there, but that's how I've always imagined it from what
I've read. Once heard that by area it's the largest city in the U.S.
Always used to seem to me from my Florida visits that the Gulf coast
was more "laid back" than the east coast, but the east coast had
better fishing - and probably better seafood restaurants.
But generalizations are dangerous, especially with as little
experience as I have.
All my east coast experience is around Port St. Lucie/Hutchinson
Island, which I liked well enough.
Had fried gator near Okeechobee. Pretty good.
Better than chicken. But maybe I was just real hungry.

--Vic


Boater November 18th 08 08:00 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 17, 6:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517
Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW
http://www.marker32.com/
I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.

--Vic


Jax is featureless. Miles and miles of mobile home parks,
subdivisions, military bases and the bars that accompany them.


They do have s nice waterfront park where you can go sit and eat your
bagged lunch, if you must be in downtown Jacksonville. Tourists might
visit the brewery and then move on down to St. Augustine to do some
dining, sight seeing, and shopping.



Jacksonville has some of the prettiest, uncrowded ocean beaches in
Florida, from practically the Georgia border down past St. Augustine.

When we lived in the area, I rarely went downtown, except to eat at a
very good Japanese restaurant, since closed, and a Cuban restaurant.

[email protected] November 18th 08 08:30 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Nov 18, 3:00*pm, Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 17, 6:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:


Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517
Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW
http://www.marker32.com/
I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.


--Vic


Jax is featureless. Miles and miles of mobile home parks,
subdivisions, military bases and the bars that accompany them.


They do have s nice waterfront park where you can go sit and eat your
bagged lunch, if you must be in downtown Jacksonville. Tourists might
visit the brewery and then move on down to St. Augustine to do some
dining, sight seeing, and shopping.


Jacksonville has some of the prettiest, uncrowded ocean beaches in
Florida, from practically the Georgia border down past St. Augustine.


Uncrowded beaches???????? You are full of **** as usual!!

Here's a pic of Jacksonville Beach:
http://tinyurl.com/5pcxu3

That's besides the whole beachfront for miles and miles is nothing but
condos.

Same way with Amelia Island, Fernandina is a disaster, Atlantic Beach
Neptune, Ponte Verde, etc. all about the same. Jacksonville is the
fourth largest metro area in Florida, but hey, according to Harry,
none of them must go to the beaches!
Oh, and according to Harry, the weather is better in Jax than other
Florida cities to the south. BUT, alas, the average temp in July and
Aug is one degree different than Tampa!



Vic Smith November 18th 08 09:21 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Here's a pic of Jacksonville Beach:
http://tinyurl.com/5pcxu3

That's besides the whole beachfront for miles and miles is nothing but
condos.

Same way with Amelia Island, Fernandina is a disaster, Atlantic Beach
Neptune, Ponte Verde, etc. all about the same. Jacksonville is the
fourth largest metro area in Florida, but hey, according to Harry,
none of them must go to the beaches!
Oh, and according to Harry, the weather is better in Jax than other
Florida cities to the south. BUT, alas, the average temp in July and
Aug is one degree different than Tampa!

What I've always had in mind for Florida is to get to places on the
gulf where there are no condos lining the beaches.
That means tripping on a boat to mangrove areas.
My uncle always wanted me to come down Cape Coral and we would
take a trip down to mangroves south, towards Everglades city, and just
fish, eat fish and fish some more for a week or so.
Never happened, but I still think of doing it.
Ever gone down there?
Wayne may have, but he never mentions fishing.

--Vic

Boater November 18th 08 09:26 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Here's a pic of Jacksonville Beach:
http://tinyurl.com/5pcxu3

That's besides the whole beachfront for miles and miles is nothing but
condos.

Same way with Amelia Island, Fernandina is a disaster, Atlantic Beach
Neptune, Ponte Verde, etc. all about the same. Jacksonville is the
fourth largest metro area in Florida, but hey, according to Harry,
none of them must go to the beaches!
Oh, and according to Harry, the weather is better in Jax than other
Florida cities to the south. BUT, alas, the average temp in July and
Aug is one degree different than Tampa!

What I've always had in mind for Florida is to get to places on the
gulf where there are no condos lining the beaches.
That means tripping on a boat to mangrove areas.
My uncle always wanted me to come down Cape Coral and we would
take a trip down to mangroves south, towards Everglades city, and just
fish, eat fish and fish some more for a week or so.
Never happened, but I still think of doing it.
Ever gone down there?
Wayne may have, but he never mentions fishing.

--Vic



As usual, Loogy doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. You
might find a crowd on the beaches on memorial day or the 4th of july
weekend, but usually there is hardly anyone there. And there are dozens
of miles of beaches.

Further, while there are some - very few - high rise condos along parts
of the stretch, they are not prevalent, nor are low-rises prevalent.
There are miles where there is nothing built on the beach side of A1A.

Loogy basically is an uninformed asshole with an agenda here. He's
really ****ed I won't "engage" him, but as I said previously, it really
isn't fair to pick on someone as handicapped as he is. Besides, I
already dump on JustHateaMinute...my dance card for dealing with jerks
is full.

Jim November 18th 08 09:40 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 17, 6:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517
Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW
http://www.marker32.com/
I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.

--Vic

Jax is featureless. Miles and miles of mobile home parks,
subdivisions, military bases and the bars that accompany them.


They do have s nice waterfront park where you can go sit and eat your
bagged lunch, if you must be in downtown Jacksonville. Tourists might
visit the brewery and then move on down to St. Augustine to do some
dining, sight seeing, and shopping.



Jacksonville has some of the prettiest, uncrowded ocean beaches in
Florida, from practically the Georgia border down past St. Augustine.

When we lived in the area, I rarely went downtown, except to eat at a
very good Japanese restaurant, since closed, and a Cuban restaurant.


Most of Florida has nice beaches. North beach in Pinnelas county was
rated #1 in the world a few years ago by some beach expert.

Vic Smith November 18th 08 09:40 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:26:02 -0500, Boater
wrote:



Further, while there are some - very few - high rise condos along parts
of the stretch, they are not prevalent, nor are low-rises prevalent.
There are miles where there is nothing built on the beach side of A1A.

I've seen plenty of uncrowded beaches in Florida.. Where I did quite
a bit of surf-fishing on Hutchinson Island I was staying at a condo
there.
Most places I've seen in Florida on either coast are condo-lined, but
that's really no problem. Most are well set back from the water, and
if you're not staying at one, there's public access.
Besides, most of the condos I've seen are half occupied or less when I
go to Florida.
Only "crowded" beach I've see is Clearwater. Haven't been to Miami
except on a Navy ship.
I do want to get a mangrove coast though. Always wanted to score
some of those redfish and big snappers.
Then fry 'em up. Wash down with a beer.
Hey, you mentioned once not eating fried fish, but that platter looked
just like....fried fish.
Off the wagon?

--Vic

Boater November 18th 08 09:46 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:26:02 -0500, Boater
wrote:


Further, while there are some - very few - high rise condos along parts
of the stretch, they are not prevalent, nor are low-rises prevalent.
There are miles where there is nothing built on the beach side of A1A.

I've seen plenty of uncrowded beaches in Florida.. Where I did quite
a bit of surf-fishing on Hutchinson Island I was staying at a condo
there.
Most places I've seen in Florida on either coast are condo-lined, but
that's really no problem. Most are well set back from the water, and
if you're not staying at one, there's public access.
Besides, most of the condos I've seen are half occupied or less when I
go to Florida.
Only "crowded" beach I've see is Clearwater. Haven't been to Miami
except on a Navy ship.
I do want to get a mangrove coast though. Always wanted to score
some of those redfish and big snappers.
Then fry 'em up. Wash down with a beer.
Hey, you mentioned once not eating fried fish, but that platter looked
just like....fried fish.
Off the wagon?

--Vic



When we go to Miami, we head for the beaches near Bal Harbour, which are
damned close to being deserted. Beautiful beaches with lots of trees.
But...if I want to see babes in barely there bikinis, I head for the
South Beach area.

I eat fried fish, but not often. It tastes great, but I look for broiled
or baked fish.

Jim November 18th 08 10:13 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Here's a pic of Jacksonville Beach:
http://tinyurl.com/5pcxu3

That's besides the whole beachfront for miles and miles is nothing but
condos.

Same way with Amelia Island, Fernandina is a disaster, Atlantic Beach
Neptune, Ponte Verde, etc. all about the same. Jacksonville is the
fourth largest metro area in Florida, but hey, according to Harry,
none of them must go to the beaches!
Oh, and according to Harry, the weather is better in Jax than other
Florida cities to the south. BUT, alas, the average temp in July and
Aug is one degree different than Tampa!

What I've always had in mind for Florida is to get to places on the
gulf where there are no condos lining the beaches.
That means tripping on a boat to mangrove areas.
My uncle always wanted me to come down Cape Coral and we would
take a trip down to mangroves south, towards Everglades city, and just
fish, eat fish and fish some more for a week or so.
Never happened, but I still think of doing it.
Ever gone down there?
Wayne may have, but he never mentions fishing.

--Vic


Haven't you been to Fort Desoto? It's right around the corner from the
causeway you fish from.

Vic Smith November 18th 08 10:33 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:13:46 -0500, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Here's a pic of Jacksonville Beach:
http://tinyurl.com/5pcxu3

That's besides the whole beachfront for miles and miles is nothing but
condos.

Same way with Amelia Island, Fernandina is a disaster, Atlantic Beach
Neptune, Ponte Verde, etc. all about the same. Jacksonville is the
fourth largest metro area in Florida, but hey, according to Harry,
none of them must go to the beaches!
Oh, and according to Harry, the weather is better in Jax than other
Florida cities to the south. BUT, alas, the average temp in July and
Aug is one degree different than Tampa!

What I've always had in mind for Florida is to get to places on the
gulf where there are no condos lining the beaches.
That means tripping on a boat to mangrove areas.
My uncle always wanted me to come down Cape Coral and we would
take a trip down to mangroves south, towards Everglades city, and just
fish, eat fish and fish some more for a week or so.
Never happened, but I still think of doing it.
Ever gone down there?
Wayne may have, but he never mentions fishing.

--Vic


Haven't you been to Fort Desoto? It's right around the corner from the
causeway you fish from.


I was on the pier, but didn't fish. Pretty nice.
I really don't like pier fishing much. Same with bridge fishing,
except the Sunshine bridge/pier, which is way out in the water and the
car almost acts like a boat to hold all my gear.
Like all my gear in a boat, where I can move when I want.
Whenever I can, I prefer drift fishing, laid back with the line
between my toes so to speak.
Don't like crowds at all, though it's fun on a party boat when the
fishing is good.
I really want to do that mangrove trip to get where it's real quiet.
Almost like camping in the woods but on the water instead.
My uncle told me he was down by Ten Thousand Islands on a 18'er
for about 4 days and it was some paradise fishing.
Can't remember the details, except he tied to the mangroves at night
and slept on the boat.
One of the reasons I'm thinking about the Mac 26 instead of the
Carolina Skiff is the livability factor for that kind of trip.

--Vic

[email protected] November 19th 08 03:31 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Nov 18, 4:46*pm, Boater wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:26:02 -0500, Boater
wrote:


Further, while there are some - very few - high rise condos along parts
of the stretch, they are not prevalent, nor are low-rises prevalent.
There are miles where there is nothing built on the beach side of A1A.


I've seen plenty of uncrowded beaches in Florida.. *Where I did quite
a bit of surf-fishing on Hutchinson Island I was staying at a condo
there. *
Most places I've seen in Florida on either coast are condo-lined, but
that's really no problem. *Most are well set back from the water, and
if you're not staying at one, there's public access.
Besides, most of the condos I've seen are half occupied or less when I
go to Florida.
Only "crowded" beach I've see is Clearwater. *Haven't been to Miami
except on a Navy ship.
I do want to get a mangrove coast though. *Always wanted to score
some of those redfish and big snappers.
Then fry 'em up. *Wash down with a beer.
Hey, you mentioned once not eating fried fish, but that platter looked
just like....fried fish.
Off the wagon?


--Vic


When we go to Miami, we head for the beaches near Bal Harbour, which are
* damned close to being deserted. Beautiful beaches with lots of trees.
But...if I want to see babes in barely there bikinis, I head for the
South Beach area.

I eat fried fish, but not often. It tastes great, but I look for broiled
or baked fish.- Hide quoted text -

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More bull****! I can see you've never seen a "deserted" beach in your
life! Bal Harbour???!!!!!

Nothing but condos!!!!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...D2%26hl% 3Den


[email protected] November 19th 08 03:33 PM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
On Nov 18, 2:58*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:36:38 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 17, 6:36*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:51 -0500, Boater
wrote:


Great seafood, interesting atmosphere...in Mayport


http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Over...spx?RefID=5517


Best restaurant in NE Florida, on the ICW


http://www.marker32.com/


I was talking to my wife about possibly switching coasts in Florida.
My big argument is east coast surf fishing, which we really enjoy.
That place could be another.


--Vic


Jax is featureless. Miles and miles of mobile home parks,
subdivisions, military bases and the bars that accompany them.


Never been there, but that's how I've always imagined it from what
I've read. *Once heard that by area it's the largest city in the U.S.
Always used to seem to me from my Florida visits that the Gulf coast
was more "laid back" than the east coast, but the east coast had
better fishing - and probably better seafood restaurants.
But generalizations are dangerous, especially with as little
experience as I have. *
All my east coast experience is around Port St. Lucie/Hutchinson
Island, which I liked well enough.
Had fried gator near Okeechobee. *Pretty good.
Better than chicken. *But maybe I was just real hungry.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

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Gator's fine when cooked right! Used to be a little hole in the wall
place near where I lived that had good gator. I lived in the sticks!

DK November 20th 08 01:45 AM

Some of my favorite restaurants in Jacksonville, FL...
 
wrote:
On Nov 18, 4:46 pm, Boater wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:26:02 -0500, Boater
wrote:
Further, while there are some - very few - high rise condos along parts
of the stretch, they are not prevalent, nor are low-rises prevalent.
There are miles where there is nothing built on the beach side of A1A.
I've seen plenty of uncrowded beaches in Florida.. Where I did quite
a bit of surf-fishing on Hutchinson Island I was staying at a condo
there.
Most places I've seen in Florida on either coast are condo-lined, but
that's really no problem. Most are well set back from the water, and
if you're not staying at one, there's public access.
Besides, most of the condos I've seen are half occupied or less when I
go to Florida.
Only "crowded" beach I've see is Clearwater. Haven't been to Miami
except on a Navy ship.
I do want to get a mangrove coast though. Always wanted to score
some of those redfish and big snappers.
Then fry 'em up. Wash down with a beer.
Hey, you mentioned once not eating fried fish, but that platter looked
just like....fried fish.
Off the wagon?
--Vic

When we go to Miami, we head for the beaches near Bal Harbour, which are
damned close to being deserted. Beautiful beaches with lots of trees.
But...if I want to see babes in barely there bikinis, I head for the
South Beach area.

I eat fried fish, but not often. It tastes great, but I look for broiled
or baked fish.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


More bull****! I can see you've never seen a "deserted" beach in your
life! Bal Harbour???!!!!!

Nothing but condos!!!!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...D2%26hl% 3Den


WAFA clearly has a very close relationship with his hand.


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