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I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. I disagree over
practicality. OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. I disagree over practicality. OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. Strip or canvas over strip canoes are practical in the appropriate waters. There are many lakes where using one can be a real pleasure. I never recommended one for general use in areas where it might be subject to being banged up. The problem, of course, is that this newsgroup is infested with assholes who look for something, anything, even in possibly interested on topic subjects, they can use to post their usual lowbrow insults. I don't mean you, not in this instance. We used to canoe when I was a kid on a couple of really nice Connecticut lakes. Lake Zoar was one of them. I have no recollection of banging up the Old Town cedar and canvas canoes we were using. This was well before the days of plastic canoes. There were plenty of aluminum canoes, of course, but jesus they were ugly. And noisy. |
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Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. I disagree over practicality. OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. Strip or canvas over strip canoes are practical in the appropriate waters. There are many lakes where using one can be a real pleasure. I never recommended one for general use in areas where it might be subject to being banged up. The problem, of course, is that this newsgroup is infested with assholes who look for something, anything, even in possibly interested on topic subjects, they can use to post their usual lowbrow insults. I don't mean you, not in this instance. We used to canoe when I was a kid on a couple of really nice Connecticut lakes. Lake Zoar was one of them. I have no recollection of banging up the Old Town cedar and canvas canoes we were using. This was well before the days of plastic canoes. There were plenty of aluminum canoes, of course, but jesus they were ugly. And noisy. Those stripper canoes are more of a furniture item than a practical boat. One would look nice on Wayne's lawn but still would need maintenance to keep it looking good. |
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On Nov 17, 7:28 pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. I disagree over practicality. OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. Strip or canvas over strip canoes are practical in the appropriate waters. There are many lakes where using one can be a real pleasure. I never recommended one for general use in areas where it might be subject to being banged up. The problem, of course, is that this newsgroup is infested with assholes who look for something, anything, even in possibly interested on topic subjects, they can use to post their usual lowbrow insults. I don't mean you, not in this instance. We used to canoe when I was a kid on a couple of really nice Connecticut lakes. Lake Zoar was one of them. I have no recollection of banging up the Old Town cedar and canvas canoes we were using. This was well before the days of plastic canoes. There were plenty of aluminum canoes, of course, but jesus they were ugly. And noisy. Those stripper canoes are more of a furniture item than a practical boat. One would look nice on Wayne's lawn but still would need maintenance to keep it looking good. Aluminum canoes are only noisy when newbies paddle em. When I was 18, I took a canoe trip down the Ocklocknee River, 60 miles thru wilderness with the Grumman canoe and a canvas canoe. We'd only gone 10 miles when the canvas canoe hit a snag and Rrrrriiiippppppp, a tear 3' long. Pulled her out on a sandbar and thought. Turns out we had a whole bag of bubble gum so we all chewed enough the seal her, worked great but canvas boats dont belong on FL rivers. Harry, you know i'm gonna have to insult you to keep any credibility here dontcha? |
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On Nov 17, 8:02 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:28 pm, Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. I disagree over practicality. OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. Strip or canvas over strip canoes are practical in the appropriate waters. There are many lakes where using one can be a real pleasure. I never recommended one for general use in areas where it might be subject to being banged up. The problem, of course, is that this newsgroup is infested with assholes who look for something, anything, even in possibly interested on topic subjects, they can use to post their usual lowbrow insults. I don't mean you, not in this instance. We used to canoe when I was a kid on a couple of really nice Connecticut lakes. Lake Zoar was one of them. I have no recollection of banging up the Old Town cedar and canvas canoes we were using. This was well before the days of plastic canoes. There were plenty of aluminum canoes, of course, but jesus they were ugly. And noisy. Those stripper canoes are more of a furniture item than a practical boat. One would look nice on Wayne's lawn but still would need maintenance to keep it looking good. Aluminum canoes are only noisy when newbies paddle em. When I was 18, I took a canoe trip down the Ocklocknee River, 60 miles thru wilderness with the Grumman canoe and a canvas canoe. We'd only gone 10 miles when the canvas canoe hit a snag and Rrrrriiiippppppp, a tear 3' long. Pulled her out on a sandbar and thought. Turns out we had a whole bag of bubble gum so we all chewed enough the seal her, worked great but canvas boats dont belong on FL rivers. Harry, you know i'm gonna have to insult you to keep any credibility here dontcha? Somewhere on the web, I once saw pics of some boats made by a Japanese artist and they were serious works of art not meant to be used. Anybody know a link to the pics? Well worth a look if I could remember where. |
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On Nov 17, 8:05 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 17, 8:02 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 17, 7:28 pm, Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. I disagree over practicality. OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. Strip or canvas over strip canoes are practical in the appropriate waters. There are many lakes where using one can be a real pleasure. I never recommended one for general use in areas where it might be subject to being banged up. The problem, of course, is that this newsgroup is infested with assholes who look for something, anything, even in possibly interested on topic subjects, they can use to post their usual lowbrow insults. I don't mean you, not in this instance. We used to canoe when I was a kid on a couple of really nice Connecticut lakes. Lake Zoar was one of them. I have no recollection of banging up the Old Town cedar and canvas canoes we were using. This was well before the days of plastic canoes. There were plenty of aluminum canoes, of course, but jesus they were ugly. And noisy. Those stripper canoes are more of a furniture item than a practical boat. One would look nice on Wayne's lawn but still would need maintenance to keep it looking good. Aluminum canoes are only noisy when newbies paddle em. When I was 18, I took a canoe trip down the Ocklocknee River, 60 miles thru wilderness with the Grumman canoe and a canvas canoe. We'd only gone 10 miles when the canvas canoe hit a snag and Rrrrriiiippppppp, a tear 3' long. Pulled her out on a sandbar and thought. Turns out we had a whole bag of bubble gum so we all chewed enough the seal her, worked great but canvas boats dont belong on FL rivers. Harry, you know i'm gonna have to insult you to keep any credibility here dontcha? Somewhere on the web, I once saw pics of some boats made by a Japanese artist and they were serious works of art not meant to be used. Anybody know a link to the pics? Well worth a look if I could remember where. Another great canoe trip with the old grumman and a rented aluminum canoe. I paddled the rental boat and the fore and aft supports along the bottom were broken so the boat squirmed down the river. It had no structural integrity. We came to one of only 4 rapids in all of FL and the canoe promptly wrapped round a rock like a piece of foil. We walked about a half mile till we found a post about 3" diameter we used to pry her out. Lashed poles fore and aft across the thwarts and used pine resin melted over the cracks and tape to repair her. Made it to the next bridge but that canoe was fit only for recycling. Lost track of the other people on th trip except the woman I later married. A year ago, we met a woman in a dog obedience class who looked familiar and we began comparing notes, she had been on that trip 28 yrs ago. |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:28:41 -0500, Jim wrote:
Those stripper canoes are more of a furniture item than a practical boat. One would look nice on Wayne's lawn but still would need maintenance to keep it looking good. I've often thought the same thing but I've already got one floating piece of furniture to keep up and it's darn near a full time job. :-) |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:11:41 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: A year ago, we met a woman in a dog obedience class who looked familiar and we began comparing notes, she had been on that trip 28 yrs ago. Cool. How was she doing with the class ? |
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On Nov 17, 7:28*pm, Jim wrote:
Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. *I disagree over practicality. *OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, *One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. *Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. *Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. *Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. Strip or canvas over strip canoes are practical in the appropriate waters. There are many lakes where using one can be a real pleasure. I never recommended one for general use in areas where it might be subject to being banged up. The problem, of course, is that this newsgroup is infested with assholes who look for something, anything, even in possibly interested on topic subjects, they can use to post their usual lowbrow insults. I don't mean you, not in this instance. We used to canoe when I was a kid on a couple of really nice Connecticut lakes. Lake Zoar was one of them. I have no recollection of banging up the Old Town cedar and canvas canoes we were using. This was well before the days of plastic canoes. There were plenty of aluminum canoes, of course, but jesus they were ugly. And noisy. Those stripper canoes are more of a furniture item than a practical boat. One would look nice on Wayne's lawn but still would need maintenance to keep it looking good.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A decent strip canoe can take a beating and can be used in pretty wild conditions.. Just cause it's pretty doesn't mean it's wimpy... |
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On Nov 17, 10:53 pm, wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:28 pm, Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: I agree with HK that strip canoes are very pretty. I disagree over practicality. OTOH, I have seen several boats that in the end were not really meant to ever be used, One was a variation on the Stevenson projects "Weekender" that was astonishing to look at with varnish so clear and deep it looked like a hologram. Every detail was done right with cabinetry of such high quality that it was exquisite. She was on display as an example of the boatmakers art and had never seen water and probably wouldn'. Many strip canoes are like that, once built, they are too perfect to be used. Would you really want to be on a canoe trip with one, the obsession over not scratching it would make you nutso. Around here, in summer, the river banks are lined with hornet nests every 3' and you get into one you have a choice of paddling like hell and running yer boat over logs or jumping out into the gator infested water or running into the weeds where the snakes drop into the boat. A strip canoe will not stay pristine for more than an hour. I believe a well used boat is a happy boat that inspires memories. Strip or canvas over strip canoes are practical in the appropriate waters. There are many lakes where using one can be a real pleasure. I never recommended one for general use in areas where it might be subject to being banged up. The problem, of course, is that this newsgroup is infested with assholes who look for something, anything, even in possibly interested on topic subjects, they can use to post their usual lowbrow insults. I don't mean you, not in this instance. We used to canoe when I was a kid on a couple of really nice Connecticut lakes. Lake Zoar was one of them. I have no recollection of banging up the Old Town cedar and canvas canoes we were using. This was well before the days of plastic canoes. There were plenty of aluminum canoes, of course, but jesus they were ugly. And noisy. Those stripper canoes are more of a furniture item than a practical boat. One would look nice on Wayne's lawn but still would need maintenance to keep it looking good.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A decent strip canoe can take a beating and can be used in pretty wild conditions.. Just cause it's pretty doesn't mean it's wimpy... My 12 yr old daughter has decided she wants a "sit on" type kayak instead of a "sit in" one so I will prob buy her a plastic one instead of building one. Like I need more boats. |
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