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Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! |
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On Nov 16, 7:35*am, Boater wrote:
Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? |
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On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. |
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On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... |
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On Nov 16, 8:13*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. *If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. *I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. *Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. *The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. *Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, * all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I build boats that not only look nice, but stand up and can take a beating too.. The modern materials such as 4.5 oz tight weave glass cloth are good for clearcoat covering without adding weight... Harry just says what he can to try to get my goat, but he really doesn't know anything about modern materials and ultralite boat building ... |
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On Nov 16, 8:53 pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 8:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I build boats that not only look nice, but stand up and can take a beating too.. The modern materials such as 4.5 oz tight weave glass cloth are good for clearcoat covering without adding weight... Harry just says what he can to try to get my goat, but he really doesn't know anything about modern materials and ultralite boat building ... I've been wanting to design a folding dinghy 9' long made of heavy flexible PVC with a glassed ply base. A company called Geodesic Aerolite boats makes a similar one but theirs does not collapse for carrying. I think one could use the thwarts to get rigidity (also the seat). It should come in at about 45 lbs. Have not worked out all the details though, maybe never will. Been considering building a 3mm ply kayak coated with 4 oz glass but with so many other things to do...... |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... Uh, no. It means one of us is careful about our gear and the other isn't. My canoe is pretty scratched up on the bottom because of the rocky rapids we shoot on the river. Otherwise, though, it looks ok. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
I build boats that not only look nice, but stand up and can take a beating too.. The modern materials such as 4.5 oz tight weave glass cloth are good for clearcoat covering without adding weight... Harry just says what he can to try to get my goat, but he really doesn't know anything about modern materials and ultralite boat building ... I've been wanting to design a folding dinghy 9' long made of heavy flexible PVC with a glassed ply base. A company called Geodesic Aerolite boats makes a similar one but theirs does not collapse for carrying. I think one could use the thwarts to get rigidity (also the seat). It should come in at about 45 lbs. Have not worked out all the details though, maybe never will. Been considering building a 3mm ply kayak coated with 4 oz glass but with so many other things to do...... Yeah those Geodesic boats are pretty cool. Older fellow up north builds em' iirc. You carry shipping tape with you in case you hole it on an outing, a 16 foot wineglass tail Whitehall type hull weighs under 20 pounds.. The other route is pretty easy too. Look at the flexible plastic sheets and check out the way the "Porta-Boat" is built. It could be done easily by the home builder, probably in one weekend for a 10 footer... Rowdy Mouse Racing, don't feed the posers... ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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On Nov 16, 9:22*pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. *If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. *I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. *Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. *The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. *Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, * all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... Uh, no. It means one of us is careful about our gear and the other isn't. My canoe is pretty scratched *up on the bottom because of the rocky rapids we shoot on the river. Otherwise, though, it looks ok.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) |
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On Nov 16, 9:43*pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 9:22*pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. *If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. *I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. *Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. *The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. *Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, * all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... Uh, no. It means one of us is careful about our gear and the other isn't. My canoe is pretty scratched *up on the bottom because of the rocky rapids we shoot on the river. Otherwise, though, it looks ok.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? * *snerk *Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Google well Harry, I have friends who actually paddle in your area. Shoot the rapids, LOL... So, what rivers do you shoot? What parts, during what season? And before you answer, remember the ratings standards have changed recently so I will know if you are full of ****, as if I need to ask snerk. Oh, crap, you don't shoot any rapids, I doubt you even know the first thing about paddling.... Poser... |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. |
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On Nov 16, 10:09 pm, Boater wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. That was good Vic. However, the T-shirt I see goes "Paddle faster, I hear banjo music" Our old Grumman canoe did very well, survived 9 kids and numerous dogs for 46 years and is still going strong. |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. You can tell by the way the river meanders in that area that it's going to be a 'wild and wooly' ride, huh Harry? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...11055&t=h&z=13 or: http://tinyurl.com/57mkba -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" |
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On Nov 16, 10:25*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? * *snerk *Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. *Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" *"paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. You can tell by the way the river meanders in that area that it's going to be a 'wild and wooly' ride, huh Harry? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...ville,va&sll=3... or:http://tinyurl.com/57mkba -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's really hilarious. Now he is a paddler.. Fat **** couldn't fit in most of the squirt boats I have seen... ;) Quick Harry, google "squirt boat"! |
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On Nov 16, 10:25*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? * *snerk *Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. *Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" *"paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. You can tell by the way the river meanders in that area that it's going to be a 'wild and wooly' ride, huh Harry? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...ville,va&sll=3... or:http://tinyurl.com/57mkba -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He has never paddled there, that's why he only answered part of the question and turned to his usual uninformed mis-direction. Rowdy Mouse Racing. Living life in the non-virtual world...! |
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JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. You can tell by the way the river meanders in that area that it's going to be a 'wild and wooly' ride, huh Harry? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...11055&t=h&z=13 or: http://tinyurl.com/57mkba What's the big attraction over there? It's about a 75 mile drive from Harry's place |
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On Nov 16, 9:56*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. *If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. *I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. *Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. *The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. *Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, * all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... Uh, no. It means one of us is careful about our gear and the other isn't. My canoe is pretty scratched *up on the bottom because of the rocky rapids we shoot on the river. Otherwise, though, it looks ok.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? * *snerk *Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) I've been canoeing on the South Fork of the Shenandoah River for years. Stage I and Stage II, mostly. Enough excitement for a canoer like me. Very dependent on level of water and flow. Sure. What time of year is the flow good, are there any closed seasons or times, what is a strainer, where do you clip your lariat? Quick Harry show us another generic answer like "Very dependent on level of water and flow", you don't paddle... Hey, maybe you can show us a pic you took while paddling.. I know, you can't paddle and shoot at the same time.. Funny, I can, have lot's of photos... and they are all mine.. You are a ****ing poser.. |
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wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 10:25 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. You can tell by the way the river meanders in that area that it's going to be a 'wild and wooly' ride, huh Harry? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...ville,va&sll=3... or:http://tinyurl.com/57mkba -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's really hilarious. Now he is a paddler.. Fat **** couldn't fit in most of the squirt boats I have seen... ;) Quick Harry, google "squirt boat"! And all this time I thought it was a Jetboat. |
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wrote:
On Nov 16, 9:56 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... Uh, no. It means one of us is careful about our gear and the other isn't. My canoe is pretty scratched up on the bottom because of the rocky rapids we shoot on the river. Otherwise, though, it looks ok.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) I've been canoeing on the South Fork of the Shenandoah River for years. Stage I and Stage II, mostly. Enough excitement for a canoer like me. Very dependent on level of water and flow. Sure. What time of year is the flow good, are there any closed seasons or times, what is a strainer, where do you clip your lariat? Quick Harry show us another generic answer like "Very dependent on level of water and flow", you don't paddle... Hey, maybe you can show us a pic you took while paddling.. I know, you can't paddle and shoot at the same time.. Funny, I can, have lot's of photos... and they are all mine.. You are a ****ing poser.. It's really not my fault you live such a miserable life, Scotty. |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:58:47 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 16, 9:43 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Boater wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Google well Harry, I have friends who actually paddle in your area. Shoot the rapids, LOL... So, what rivers do you shoot? What parts, during what season? And before you answer, remember the ratings standards have changed recently so I will know if you are full of ****, as if I need to ask snerk. Oh, crap, you don't shoot any rapids, I doubt you even know the first thing about paddling.... Poser... This, from someone who obviously has only one oar in the water! The funny thing is that all I've ever claimed to be canoes is an occasional recreational canoeist. JustHateaMinute's rosetta stone translates *that* into competitive canoeist. It must be "interesting" going through life as he does, five cans short of a six-pack. |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater
wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. Fastest water I've canoed was the Current River in the Missouri Ozarks. Not far from where my Ma grew up and where I spent summers as a kid with chickens, a mule, outhouse, well, washtub baths and plenty of spiders. Late spring after a lot of rain. Even though there were fast bumpy places where the river narrowed, faster paddling handled it. I don't know the rapids classification system, and am far from an expert. Seemed about equal to that Deliverance stuff, but without the banjo music and bungholers. No compound bow either. Just always think of shooting the rapids as a "western" thing. I'll reconsider. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. Fastest water I've canoed was the Current River in the Missouri Ozarks. Not far from where my Ma grew up and where I spent summers as a kid with chickens, a mule, outhouse, well, washtub baths and plenty of spiders. Late spring after a lot of rain. Even though there were fast bumpy places where the river narrowed, faster paddling handled it. I don't know the rapids classification system, and am far from an expert. Seemed about equal to that Deliverance stuff, but without the banjo music and bungholers. No compound bow either. Just always think of shooting the rapids as a "western" thing. I'll reconsider. --Vic I just canoe for fun. There's nothing "competitive" about the way we paddle around. There are a few places on the Shenandoah where we canoe where there are rapids interesting enough for me. I've been planning a run to the Ozarks. My best buddy from my newspaperman days now is a freelance agricultural writer, and lives in the Missouri Ozarks, and he's not too far from a good college buddy, an Episcopal priest who circuit rides the Missouri-Arkansas prison sysems in search of salvageable souls. We've been talking reunion. On this earth. :) |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:50:00 -0500, Jim wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" "paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. You can tell by the way the river meanders in that area that it's going to be a 'wild and wooly' ride, huh Harry? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...11055&t=h&z=13 or: http://tinyurl.com/57mkba What's the big attraction over there? It's about a 75 mile drive from Harry's place He goes to visit a man, and then they shoot (?). -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:23:54 -0500, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:58:47 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 16, 9:43 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Boater wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? snerk Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Google well Harry, I have friends who actually paddle in your area. Shoot the rapids, LOL... So, what rivers do you shoot? What parts, during what season? And before you answer, remember the ratings standards have changed recently so I will know if you are full of ****, as if I need to ask snerk. Oh, crap, you don't shoot any rapids, I doubt you even know the first thing about paddling.... Poser... This, from someone who obviously has only one oar in the water! The funny thing is that all I've ever claimed to be canoes is an occasional recreational canoeist. JustHateaMinute's rosetta stone translates *that* into competitive canoeist. It must be "interesting" going through life as he does, five cans short of a six-pack. Salty understands, Harry. He's *your* kind of guy. -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" |
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On Nov 16, 10:52*pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 9:56*pm, Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. *If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. *I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. *Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. *The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. *Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, * all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... Uh, no. It means one of us is careful about our gear and the other isn't. My canoe is pretty scratched *up on the bottom because of the rocky rapids we shoot on the river. Otherwise, though, it looks ok.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? * *snerk *Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) I've been canoeing on the South Fork of the Shenandoah River for years. Stage I and Stage II, mostly. Enough excitement for a canoer like me. Very dependent on level of water and flow. Sure. What time of year is the flow good, are there any closed seasons or times, what is a strainer, where do you clip your lariat? Quick Harry show us another generic answer like "Very dependent on level of water and flow", you don't paddle... Hey, maybe you can show us a pic you took while paddling.. I know, you can't paddle and shoot at the same time.. Funny, I can, have lot's of photos... and they are all mine.. You are a ****ing poser snerk He shoots class two rapids, and still, can't google these direct questions even the most casual class two paddler should know. Pffftttt... Oh yeah, I can see it now.. Stuck in a strainer looking for his blade to slash the lariat but he is busy making unclever insults directed at the water ;) |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:05:25 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:
Just always think of shooting the rapids as a "western" thing. I'll reconsider. *Parts* of eastern rivers, can be challenging, but I can't think of any that are comparable to some of the western rivers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ver_Difficulty |
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On Nov 16, 9:56*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 1:10 pm, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 16, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Nov 16, 7:35 am, Boater wrote: Orvis has a lovely cedar strip canoe in its latest catalogue: http://tinyurl.com/5j9upj Boats...the way they are supposed to be built! Harry, because of modern technology, there are many methods and materials for building things than ever before. Should we really stick our heads in the sand and not learn anything newer and better than what was available previously? I see a lot of boats like this and I wonder how much they really get used. *If you REALLY use a boat, it will get lots of dings and scrapes and would ruin a boat like that. *I'd have to say this is a poor choice for a real boat but a good choice for a virtual boater. The cedar canoe was aesthetically pleasing. Also, if you are paddling around in the right sorts of waters, with no rocks or rapids, a cedar strip canoe is great fun. I have a plastic canoe. It has zero aesthetic appeal, but it is tough enough for the bumps and scrapes of the Shenandoah River, where we paddle. Trashy looking boats that have been abused seem to have lots of appeal for you and Loogy the Braindead. To each his own. Probably cuz it means we use our boats. *Lemme see, 46 yr old Grumman canoe, all sorts of nicks and dings and I know the origin of most of em. *The bent thwart is from when my mother decapitated a water moccassin right next to me with the paddle when I was 6. *Welded spot is from where it was sunk under a log on the Alapaha River, * all the bottom scrapes are from "Look and Tremble" shoals on the Chipola River, etc... Uh, no. It means one of us is careful about our gear and the other isn't. My canoe is pretty scratched *up on the bottom because of the rocky rapids we shoot on the river. Otherwise, though, it looks ok.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? * *snerk *Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) I've been canoeing on the South Fork of the Shenandoah River for years. Stage I and Stage II, mostly. Enough excitement for a canoer like me. Very dependent on level of water and flow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bull****. Your fat ass wouldn't fit in a canoe. |
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On Nov 16, 10:25*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:09:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: Pffttt. what river do you "shoot rapids"??? * *snerk *Now he is shooting the rapids, next he will be telling us about his latest marathon adventure.. :) LOL. *Most places east of the Rockies I thought they just called "shooting the rapids" *"paddle a little faster." --Vic Our spot is out in Bentonville along the Shenandoah's South Fork. I and II rapids, enough for me. I don't canoe there, but the rapids around Great Falls, Va., would be enough to send you home crying, if you survived. You can tell by the way the river meanders in that area that it's going to be a 'wild and wooly' ride, huh Harry? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...ville,va&sll=3... or:http://tinyurl.com/57mkba -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's funny!!!!! |
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On Nov 17, 8:35*am, Boater wrote:
wrote: snerk He shoots class two rapids, and still, can't google these direct questions even the most casual class two paddler should know. Pffftttt... Oh yeah, I can see it now.. Stuck in a strainer looking for his blade to slash the lariat but he is busy making unclever insults directed at the water ;) I never claimed to be anything more than someone who occasionally enjoys paddling around in an old canoe. Unlike you, I earn a decent living, have a few hobbies I only have to take semi-seriously, and I don't have to live vicariously through my children or grandchildren. Oh...and I'm not a short, ill-tempered, semi-literate little schitt - like you. Psssst...is that daughter of yours going to get a motorcycle racing scholarship to college? Harry, we all know you are a failure in life, that's why you must lie about every aspect of it. Perhaps it's because you are too stupid to know that being in a sport with rules, expectations, and consequences for NOT following the rules, plus the fact that it teaches you how to be competitive without being an asshole about it (something you should take to heart), does indeed teach you a lot of basics about life. |
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On Nov 17, 9:11 am, wrote:
On Nov 17, 8:35 am, Boater wrote: wrote: snerk He shoots class two rapids, and still, can't google these direct questions even the most casual class two paddler should know. Pffftttt... Oh yeah, I can see it now.. Stuck in a strainer looking for his blade to slash the lariat but he is busy making unclever insults directed at the water ;) I never claimed to be anything more than someone who occasionally enjoys paddling around in an old canoe. Unlike you, I earn a decent living, have a few hobbies I only have to take semi-seriously, and I don't have to live vicariously through my children or grandchildren. Oh...and I'm not a short, ill-tempered, semi-literate little schitt - like you. Psssst...is that daughter of yours going to get a motorcycle racing scholarship to college? Harry, we all know you are a failure in life, that's why you must lie about every aspect of it. Perhaps it's because you are too stupid to know that being in a sport with rules, expectations, and consequences for NOT following the rules, plus the fact that it teaches you how to be competitive without being an asshole about it (something you should take to heart), does indeed teach you a lot of basics about life. That Class I picture would be major rapids here in Florida. Our scale of difficulty is due to the number of trees you have to pull your boat over and the number of snakes. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:11 am, wrote: On Nov 17, 8:35 am, Boater wrote: wrote: snerk He shoots class two rapids, and still, can't google these direct questions even the most casual class two paddler should know. Pffftttt... Oh yeah, I can see it now.. Stuck in a strainer looking for his blade to slash the lariat but he is busy making unclever insults directed at the water ;) I never claimed to be anything more than someone who occasionally enjoys paddling around in an old canoe. Unlike you, I earn a decent living, have a few hobbies I only have to take semi-seriously, and I don't have to live vicariously through my children or grandchildren. Oh...and I'm not a short, ill-tempered, semi-literate little schitt - like you. Psssst...is that daughter of yours going to get a motorcycle racing scholarship to college? Harry, we all know you are a failure in life, that's why you must lie about every aspect of it. Perhaps it's because you are too stupid to know that being in a sport with rules, expectations, and consequences for NOT following the rules, plus the fact that it teaches you how to be competitive without being an asshole about it (something you should take to heart), does indeed teach you a lot of basics about life. That Class I picture would be major rapids here in Florida. Our scale of difficulty is due to the number of trees you have to pull your boat over and the number of snakes. I have zero interest in "competitive canoeing" or its lingo, but I do like to paddle around in a canoe on a pretty river. I've seen a few snakes swimming in the Shenandoah from time to time. I have no idea what kind they are. What's nice is fly fishing on the river from either a canoe or a raft, or just going for a swim. We launch from this spot: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/96c4348e.jpg We have a gravel road leading down between two parts of the river bank right down to the water. Dark gloomy day when this was shot. |
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On Nov 17, 10:32*am, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 17, 9:11 am, wrote: On Nov 17, 8:35 am, Boater wrote: wrote: snerk He shoots class two rapids, and still, can't google these direct questions even the most casual class two paddler should know. Pffftttt... Oh yeah, I can see it now.. Stuck in a strainer looking for his blade to slash the lariat but he is busy making unclever insults directed at the water ;) I never claimed to be anything more than someone who occasionally enjoys paddling around in an old canoe. Unlike you, I earn a decent living, have a few hobbies I only have to take semi-seriously, and I don't have to live vicariously through my children or grandchildren. Oh...and I'm not a short, ill-tempered, semi-literate little schitt - like you. Psssst...is that daughter of yours going to get a motorcycle racing scholarship to college? Harry, we all know you are a failure in life, that's why you must lie about every aspect of it. Perhaps it's because you are too stupid to know that being in a sport with rules, expectations, and consequences for NOT following the rules, plus the fact that it teaches you how to be competitive without being an asshole about it (something you should take to heart), does indeed teach you a lot of basics about life. That Class I picture would be major rapids here in Florida. *Our scale of difficulty is due to the number of trees you have to pull your boat over and the number of snakes. I have zero interest in "competitive canoeing" *or its lingo, but I do like to paddle around in a canoe on a pretty river. I've seen a few snakes swimming in the Shenandoah from time to time. I have no idea what kind they are. What's nice is fly fishing on the river from either a canoe or a raft, or just going for a swim. We launch from this spot: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/96c4348e.jpg We have a gravel road leading down between two parts of the river bank right down to the water. Dark gloomy day when this was shot.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now he flyfishes from a canoe.. This is getting better all the time... Yikes, guess that low fat center of gravity comes in handy from time to time. Wonder if he has a seperate canoe for each butt cheek ? |
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Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 17, 9:11 am, wrote: On Nov 17, 8:35 am, Boater wrote: wrote: snerk He shoots class two rapids, and still, can't google these direct questions even the most casual class two paddler should know. Pffftttt... Oh yeah, I can see it now.. Stuck in a strainer looking for his blade to slash the lariat but he is busy making unclever insults directed at the water ;) I never claimed to be anything more than someone who occasionally enjoys paddling around in an old canoe. Unlike you, I earn a decent living, have a few hobbies I only have to take semi-seriously, and I don't have to live vicariously through my children or grandchildren. Oh...and I'm not a short, ill-tempered, semi-literate little schitt - like you. Psssst...is that daughter of yours going to get a motorcycle racing scholarship to college? Harry, we all know you are a failure in life, that's why you must lie about every aspect of it. Perhaps it's because you are too stupid to know that being in a sport with rules, expectations, and consequences for NOT following the rules, plus the fact that it teaches you how to be competitive without being an asshole about it (something you should take to heart), does indeed teach you a lot of basics about life. That Class I picture would be major rapids here in Florida. Our scale of difficulty is due to the number of trees you have to pull your boat over and the number of snakes. I have zero interest in "competitive canoeing" or its lingo, but I do like to paddle around in a canoe on a pretty river. I've seen a few snakes swimming in the Shenandoah from time to time. I have no idea what kind they are. What's nice is fly fishing on the river from either a canoe or a raft, or just going for a swim. We launch from this spot: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/96c4348e.jpg We have a gravel road leading down between two parts of the river bank right down to the water. Dark gloomy day when this was shot. Looks like a great place to catch rattlers and cotton mouths. They like slow moving water. And with all that underbrush you might find corals too. |
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wrote:
On Nov 17, 10:32 am, Boater wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 17, 9:11 am, wrote: On Nov 17, 8:35 am, Boater wrote: wrote: snerk He shoots class two rapids, and still, can't google these direct questions even the most casual class two paddler should know. Pffftttt... Oh yeah, I can see it now.. Stuck in a strainer looking for his blade to slash the lariat but he is busy making unclever insults directed at the water ;) I never claimed to be anything more than someone who occasionally enjoys paddling around in an old canoe. Unlike you, I earn a decent living, have a few hobbies I only have to take semi-seriously, and I don't have to live vicariously through my children or grandchildren. Oh...and I'm not a short, ill-tempered, semi-literate little schitt - like you. Psssst...is that daughter of yours going to get a motorcycle racing scholarship to college? Harry, we all know you are a failure in life, that's why you must lie about every aspect of it. Perhaps it's because you are too stupid to know that being in a sport with rules, expectations, and consequences for NOT following the rules, plus the fact that it teaches you how to be competitive without being an asshole about it (something you should take to heart), does indeed teach you a lot of basics about life. That Class I picture would be major rapids here in Florida. Our scale of difficulty is due to the number of trees you have to pull your boat over and the number of snakes. I have zero interest in "competitive canoeing" or its lingo, but I do like to paddle around in a canoe on a pretty river. I've seen a few snakes swimming in the Shenandoah from time to time. I have no idea what kind they are. What's nice is fly fishing on the river from either a canoe or a raft, or just going for a swim. We launch from this spot: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/96c4348e.jpg We have a gravel road leading down between two parts of the river bank right down to the water. Dark gloomy day when this was shot.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now he flyfishes from a canoe.. This is getting better all the time... Yikes, guess that low fat center of gravity comes in handy from time to time. Wonder if he has a seperate canoe for each butt cheek ? Since until recently you thought I was 5'3" (almost a foot off), and since you have not seen a recent photo of me and since you don't know anyone who has seen me in the last year or so or even longer, you have no idea what I look like or how much I weigh. Second, you also know nothing about fishing, fly or otherwise. Do you work extra hard at showing yourself off as an ignorant little turd? Or does it come naturally? |
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