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[email protected] November 15th 08 02:33 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned... Seems that although two weeks ago and for the last two
years Obama knew that there were problems, but apparently didn't have
a clue as to how bad they actually were. Now all of a sudden the
"mess" left by the Past Administration (cough, democrat congress
preceeded by 6 years of do nothing, filibuster congress) is so bad
that many of the campaign promises he made are no good anymore.. Yes
Harry, Obama will not be giving me the health care you promised, any
time soon.. It just amazes me that it took him this long to figure out
that he was not going to be able to keep his word... half the country
already knew that, geeze.. Even I knew that...

But he does want to pay back the folks who got him elected with
another 25 billion.. Same old, same old....


Eisboch November 15th 08 02:39 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 

wrote in message
...

Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned... Seems that although two weeks ago and for the last two
years Obama knew that there were problems, but apparently didn't have
a clue as to how bad they actually were. Now all of a sudden the
"mess" left by the Past Administration (cough, democrat congress
preceeded by 6 years of do nothing, filibuster congress) is so bad
that many of the campaign promises he made are no good anymore.. Yes
Harry, Obama will not be giving me the health care you promised, any
time soon.. It just amazes me that it took him this long to figure out
that he was not going to be able to keep his word... half the country
already knew that, geeze.. Even I knew that...

But he does want to pay back the folks who got him elected with
another 25 billion.. Same old, same old....



I still believe that after his first top-secret Intel meeting (that probably
included topics other than simply defense related issues) that Obama
emerged with an entirely different understanding of the world.

If true, it's how he deals with it that counts.

Eisboch



Boater November 15th 08 02:50 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned... Seems that although two weeks ago and for the last two
years Obama knew that there were problems, but apparently didn't have
a clue as to how bad they actually were. Now all of a sudden the
"mess" left by the Past Administration (cough, democrat congress
preceeded by 6 years of do nothing, filibuster congress) is so bad
that many of the campaign promises he made are no good anymore.. Yes
Harry, Obama will not be giving me the health care you promised, any
time soon.. It just amazes me that it took him this long to figure out
that he was not going to be able to keep his word... half the country
already knew that, geeze.. Even I knew that...

But he does want to pay back the folks who got him elected with
another 25 billion.. Same old, same old....



You know, or maybe you don't know, I talk to President Elect Obama
several times a day and just yesterday I advised him to forget the idea
of providing expanded health care benefits to the terminally stupid.
Sorry...


[email protected] November 15th 08 02:54 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
On Nov 15, 9:39*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...





Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned... Seems that although two weeks ago and for the last two
years Obama knew that there were problems, but apparently didn't have
a clue as to how bad they actually were. Now all of a sudden the
"mess" left by the Past Administration (cough, democrat congress
preceeded by 6 years of do nothing, filibuster congress) is so bad
that many of the campaign promises he made are no good anymore.. Yes
Harry, Obama will not be giving me the health care you promised, any
time soon.. It just amazes me that it took him this long to figure out
that he was not going to be able to keep his word... half the country
already knew that, geeze.. Even I knew that...


But he does want to pay back the folks who got him elected with
another 25 billion.. Same old, same old....


I still believe that after his first top-secret Intel meeting (that probably
included topics other than simply defense related issues) *that Obama
emerged with an entirely different understanding of the world.

If true, it's how he deals with it that counts.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Which leads me to another news note.. I have over and over been seeing
McCain supporters on TV.. This morning it was Boomer Esiason (sp?)
saying that although he voted for McCain, he had great respect and
hope for President elect Obama. And here is the key I keep hearing
from the right, "he will be my President, the President of the United
States". On the other hand I am still hearing democrat shills (Jon
Stewart) trashing the office and the current President. I am 50 years
young, and I have never seen a democratic party that is so militant
and intolerant starting with the top people in the party, to the man
on the street. I know Harry will justify this a thousand ways, oh, and
then call the right the side of hate...;)

I will not deny Bush screwed up a lot, every President does but like
his dad, Bill Clinton, and others, I firmly believe the went into the
office with great expectations and ideas, and the job hit them square
in the face like Eisboch said... but like those before him, and unlike
so many ideologues I see, Obama will be my President. He will have my
support..

Jim November 15th 08 03:28 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
wrote:
On Nov 15, 9:39 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...





Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned... Seems that although two weeks ago and for the last two
years Obama knew that there were problems, but apparently didn't have
a clue as to how bad they actually were. Now all of a sudden the
"mess" left by the Past Administration (cough, democrat congress
preceeded by 6 years of do nothing, filibuster congress) is so bad
that many of the campaign promises he made are no good anymore.. Yes
Harry, Obama will not be giving me the health care you promised, any
time soon.. It just amazes me that it took him this long to figure out
that he was not going to be able to keep his word... half the country
already knew that, geeze.. Even I knew that...
But he does want to pay back the folks who got him elected with
another 25 billion.. Same old, same old....

I still believe that after his first top-secret Intel meeting (that probably
included topics other than simply defense related issues) that Obama
emerged with an entirely different understanding of the world.

If true, it's how he deals with it that counts.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Which leads me to another news note.. I have over and over been seeing
McCain supporters on TV.. This morning it was Boomer Esiason (sp?)
saying that although he voted for McCain, he had great respect and
hope for President elect Obama. And here is the key I keep hearing
from the right, "he will be my President, the President of the United
States". On the other hand I am still hearing democrat shills (Jon
Stewart) trashing the office and the current President. I am 50 years
young, and I have never seen a democratic party that is so militant
and intolerant starting with the top people in the party, to the man
on the street. I know Harry will justify this a thousand ways, oh, and
then call the right the side of hate...;)

I will not deny Bush screwed up a lot, every President does but like
his dad, Bill Clinton, and others, I firmly believe the went into the
office with great expectations and ideas, and the job hit them square
in the face like Eisboch said... but like those before him, and unlike
so many ideologues I see, Obama will be my President. He will have my
support..


Obama is suffering from "Deer in the headlights syndrome" just as I
predicted. The only thing is, my timing was off. I expected that we
wouldn't find out until after January 20.
God bless America.

[email protected] November 15th 08 03:29 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
On Nov 15, 9:50*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned... Seems that although two weeks ago and for the last two
years Obama knew that there were problems, but apparently didn't have
a clue as to how bad they actually were. Now all of a sudden the
"mess" left by the Past Administration (cough, democrat congress
preceeded by 6 years of do nothing, filibuster congress) is so bad
that many of the campaign promises he made are no good anymore.. Yes
Harry, Obama will not be giving me the health care you promised, any
time soon.. It just amazes me that it took him this long to figure out
that he was not going to be able to keep his word... half the country
already knew that, geeze.. Even I knew that...


But he does want to pay back the folks who got him elected with
another 25 billion.. Same old, same old....


You know, or maybe you don't know, I talk to President Elect Obama
several times a day and just yesterday I advised him to forget the idea
of providing expanded health care benefits to the terminally stupid.
Sorry...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Idiot.


Tim November 16th 08 02:08 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 


wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...


Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.

I saw that coming well before the election.

Boater November 16th 08 02:12 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Tim wrote:

wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...


Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.

I saw that coming well before the election.



For more than a month before the general election, Obama stated in many
of his stump speeches that our economic situation in this country was so
dire, some of what he had proposed would have to be scaled back or delayed.

The current president has buried this country under a mountain of debt.
Did you miss that?

Canuck57[_3_] November 16th 08 02:42 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...


wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...


Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.

I saw that coming well before the election.


So did I. Obama is a slickster. Tell the people what they want to here,
apologise and make excuses later type. The dead give away was the body
language and pause after ever question that was asked. Obama, smart,
perhaps - polished, yes - slick, yes - earnest, no freaking way.



Tim November 16th 08 02:55 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
On Nov 15, 8:12*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...


Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.


I saw that coming well before the election.


For more than a month before the general election, Obama stated in many
of his stump speeches that our economic situation in this country was so
dire, some of what he had proposed would have to be scaled back or delayed.

The current president has buried this country under a mountain of debt.
Did you miss that?




Re-read, Harry

" Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected
to Senate in Illiniois.
I saw that coming well before the election."

I witnessed his 'no-show' performance when he was senator of my state.
I saw his "non-performance" when he was senator of my state.

I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.

Boater November 16th 08 03:06 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Tim wrote:
On Nov 15, 8:12 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...
Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.
I saw that coming well before the election.

For more than a month before the general election, Obama stated in many
of his stump speeches that our economic situation in this country was so
dire, some of what he had proposed would have to be scaled back or delayed.

The current president has buried this country under a mountain of debt.
Did you miss that?




Re-read, Harry

" Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected
to Senate in Illiniois.
I saw that coming well before the election."

I witnessed his 'no-show' performance when he was senator of my state.
I saw his "non-performance" when he was senator of my state.

I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.



I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being realistic.

A number of the promises I hope Obama will fulfill will not be difficult
or budget-busting: close Gitmo, shut down the war against Iraq, outlaw
torture, re-establish complete diplomatic and commerical relations with
Cuba, re-establish habeas corpus, stop the spying on Americans,
nominating associate justices to the Supreme Court who consider Roe v.
Wade settled law, lift restrictions against stem cell research,
recognize the validity of science, et cetera.


[email protected] November 16th 08 03:24 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
On Nov 15, 10:06*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Nov 15, 8:12 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:


wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...
Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.
I saw that coming well before the election.
For more than a month before the general election, Obama stated in many
of his stump speeches that our economic situation in this country was so
dire, some of what he had proposed would have to be scaled back or delayed.


The current president has buried this country under a mountain of debt..
Did you miss that?


Re-read, Harry


" Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected
to Senate in Illiniois.
*I saw that coming well before the election."


I witnessed his 'no-show' performance when he was senator of my state.
I saw his "non-performance" when he was senator of my state.


I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.


Did you miss that?
evidently.


I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being realistic.

A number of the promises I hope Obama will fulfill will not be difficult
or budget-busting: close Gitmo, shut down the war against Iraq, outlaw
torture, re-establish complete diplomatic and commerical relations with
Cuba, re-establish habeas corpus, stop the spying on Americans,
nominating associate justices to the Supreme Court who consider Roe v.
Wade settled law, lift restrictions against stem cell research,
recognize the validity of science, et cetera.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Blah, blah.... blah... just another DNC fax....

Boater November 16th 08 03:29 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
wrote:
On Nov 15, 10:06 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Nov 15, 8:12 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...
Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.
I saw that coming well before the election.
For more than a month before the general election, Obama stated in many
of his stump speeches that our economic situation in this country was so
dire, some of what he had proposed would have to be scaled back or delayed.
The current president has buried this country under a mountain of debt.
Did you miss that?
Re-read, Harry
" Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected
to Senate in Illiniois.
I saw that coming well before the election."
I witnessed his 'no-show' performance when he was senator of my state.
I saw his "non-performance" when he was senator of my state.
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.
Did you miss that?
evidently.

I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being realistic.

A number of the promises I hope Obama will fulfill will not be difficult
or budget-busting: close Gitmo, shut down the war against Iraq, outlaw
torture, re-establish complete diplomatic and commerical relations with
Cuba, re-establish habeas corpus, stop the spying on Americans,
nominating associate justices to the Supreme Court who consider Roe v.
Wade settled law, lift restrictions against stem cell research,
recognize the validity of science, et cetera.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Blah, blah.... blah... just another DNC fax....



Sorry, unlike you, I don't get my information from reich-wing radio.
Faux NEws or the DNC. It's my shopping list.

Eisboch November 16th 08 03:30 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:

I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.




I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch



Tim November 16th 08 03:48 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
On Nov 15, 9:06*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Nov 15, 8:12 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:


wrote:
Just listening to a pundit on the news. Susan Estridge (sp?) was
saying that many of the programs such as health care and education
that Obama was promising to fix, just two short weeks ago may have to
be binned...
Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected to
Senate in Illiniois.
I saw that coming well before the election.
For more than a month before the general election, Obama stated in many
of his stump speeches that our economic situation in this country was so
dire, some of what he had proposed would have to be scaled back or delayed.


The current president has buried this country under a mountain of debt..
Did you miss that?


Re-read, Harry


" Oh that's not surprising. he did the same thin when he was elected
to Senate in Illiniois.
*I saw that coming well before the election."


I witnessed his 'no-show' performance when he was senator of my state.
I saw his "non-performance" when he was senator of my state.


I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.


Did you miss that?
evidently.


I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons.


I'm sure he'll be able to deliver on...some. and MANY will fall by the
wayside for obvious reasons that he exaggerated his promises.

Kind of like the dog trying to figure out what to do after he caught
the car. the car.

But that's not uncommon. I'd say that 80% of politicians are liars
anyhow. The other 10% try to convice the public they were only joking.

Eisboch November 16th 08 04:01 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...

I'm sure he'll be able to deliver on...some. and MANY will fall by the
wayside for obvious reasons that he exaggerated his promises.

Kind of like the dog trying to figure out what to do after he caught
the car. the car.

But that's not uncommon. I'd say that 80% of politicians are liars
anyhow. The other 10% try to convice the public they were only joking.

New math?

Eisboch



D.Duck November 16th 08 08:58 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Tim" wrote in message
...

I'm sure he'll be able to deliver on...some. and MANY will fall by the
wayside for obvious reasons that he exaggerated his promises.

Kind of like the dog trying to figure out what to do after he caught
the car. the car.

But that's not uncommon. I'd say that 80% of politicians are liars
anyhow. The other 10% try to convice the public they were only joking.

New math?

Eisboch



The *missing* 10% is the labor content in Detroit cars. 8)



Boater November 16th 08 11:26 AM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.


I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch



To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would
lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he would
catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going to happen?
On Obama's watch?

Jim November 16th 08 12:10 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.


I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for
various reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not
being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would
lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he would
catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going to happen?
On Obama's watch?


A lot of folks came to those conclusions because of Obama's promises of
a chicken in every pot and his promise to re distribute wealth and
provide free this and that to everyone. His speeches were carefully
crafted to suck in the barely literate and give them hope and promises
of a carefree prosperous, and happy future. What amazes me is that he
sucked in so many supposedly bright people like yourself as well. You
better hope and pray that congress starts taking a daily dose of smart
pills and begins to do the job we are paying them to do.

Eisboch November 16th 08 12:13 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.


I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being
realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would lead
anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he would catch
those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going to happen? On
Obama's watch?


Obama never said the exact words leading to the woman's reaction. However,
he said things that led gullible people (like her and others) to draw that
conclusion, just like you seem to have drawn the conclusion that Bush said
he'd get bin Laden on his watch. He never said that. In fact, he was very
careful to say it may take a very long time, even ten years or more.

BTW, recent reports by military commanders and the CIA indicate that they
have been able to further zero in on bin Laden's hiding spot. I wouldn't
be surprised to hear some really good news someday soon.
According to the report, bin Laden has effectively been cut off from any
direct communications or contact with al Qaeda outside of the small group
who are trying to protect him. He spends 24 hours a day concentrating on
not being captured or killed. What a life, huh?

Eisboch



Tim November 16th 08 12:18 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
On Nov 15, 10:01*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

I'm sure he'll be able to deliver on...some. and MANY will fall by the
wayside for obvious reasons that he exaggerated his promises.

Kind of like the dog trying to figure out what to do after he caught
the car. the car.

But that's not uncommon. I'd say that 80% of politicians are liars
anyhow. *The other 10% try to convice the public they were only joking.

New math?

Eisboch


No, I forgot to follow up that the remaining 10% are actually honest
and do serve the public.

But they don't get any recognition and don't last long.

Boater November 16th 08 12:22 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.
I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being
realistic.

Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch

To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would lead
anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he would catch
those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going to happen? On
Obama's watch?


Obama never said the exact words leading to the woman's reaction. However,
he said things that led gullible people (like her and others) to draw that
conclusion, just like you seem to have drawn the conclusion that Bush said
he'd get bin Laden on his watch. He never said that. In fact, he was very
careful to say it may take a very long time, even ten years or more.

BTW, recent reports by military commanders and the CIA indicate that they
have been able to further zero in on bin Laden's hiding spot. I wouldn't
be surprised to hear some really good news someday soon.
According to the report, bin Laden has effectively been cut off from any
direct communications or contact with al Qaeda outside of the small group
who are trying to protect him. He spends 24 hours a day concentrating on
not being captured or killed. What a life, huh?

Eisboch




That may be so, but I see no reason to believe our "intel" sources.
Their track record...sucks.

Boater November 16th 08 12:23 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.

I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for
various reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not
being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would
lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he
would catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going to
happen? On Obama's watch?


A lot of folks came to those conclusions because of Obama's promises of
a chicken in every pot and his promise to re distribute wealth and
provide free this and that to everyone. His speeches were carefully
crafted to suck in the barely literate and give them hope and promises
of a carefree prosperous, and happy future. What amazes me is that he
sucked in so many supposedly bright people like yourself as well. You
better hope and pray that congress starts taking a daily dose of smart
pills and begins to do the job we are paying them to do.



Right, Jim. I was going to vote for "Bomb, Bomb Iran" and the
simple-minded Alaskan Jesus Freak.


Jim November 16th 08 12:36 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.
I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for various
reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not being
realistic.

Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch

To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would lead
anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he would catch
those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going to happen? On
Obama's watch?


Obama never said the exact words leading to the woman's reaction. However,
he said things that led gullible people (like her and others) to draw that
conclusion, just like you seem to have drawn the conclusion that Bush said
he'd get bin Laden on his watch. He never said that. In fact, he was very
careful to say it may take a very long time, even ten years or more.

BTW, recent reports by military commanders and the CIA indicate that they
have been able to further zero in on bin Laden's hiding spot. I wouldn't
be surprised to hear some really good news someday soon.
According to the report, bin Laden has effectively been cut off from any
direct communications or contact with al Qaeda outside of the small group
who are trying to protect him. He spends 24 hours a day concentrating on
not being captured or killed. What a life, huh?

Eisboch


His head on a pike would make an excellent Christmas present.

Jim November 16th 08 12:40 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.

I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises, make
progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside for
various reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're not
being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would
lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he
would catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going
to happen? On Obama's watch?


A lot of folks came to those conclusions because of Obama's promises
of a chicken in every pot and his promise to re distribute wealth and
provide free this and that to everyone. His speeches were carefully
crafted to suck in the barely literate and give them hope and promises
of a carefree prosperous, and happy future. What amazes me is that he
sucked in so many supposedly bright people like yourself as well. You
better hope and pray that congress starts taking a daily dose of smart
pills and begins to do the job we are paying them to do.



Right, Jim. I was going to vote for "Bomb, Bomb Iran" and the
simple-minded Alaskan Jesus Freak.

You may not have voted for the less of two evils.

What the hell is '"Jesus Freak". You make Archie Bunker sound like a
choir boy.

Eisboch November 16th 08 12:41 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...



That may be so, but I see no reason to believe our "intel" sources. Their
track record...sucks.


Of course. What else would you think? You are well programmed.

Eisboch



Boater November 16th 08 12:56 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.

I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises,
make progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside
for various reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're
not being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that would
lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush said he
would catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is that going
to happen? On Obama's watch?

A lot of folks came to those conclusions because of Obama's promises
of a chicken in every pot and his promise to re distribute wealth and
provide free this and that to everyone. His speeches were carefully
crafted to suck in the barely literate and give them hope and
promises of a carefree prosperous, and happy future. What amazes me
is that he sucked in so many supposedly bright people like yourself
as well. You better hope and pray that congress starts taking a daily
dose of smart pills and begins to do the job we are paying them to do.



Right, Jim. I was going to vote for "Bomb, Bomb Iran" and the
simple-minded Alaskan Jesus Freak.

You may not have voted for the less of two evils.

What the hell is '"Jesus Freak". You make Archie Bunker sound like a
choir boy.



Actually, I am using the term ironically. Sarah Palin actually is not a
Jesus Freak. She is the antithesis of a Jesus Freak. But you wouldn't
understand it under any circumstances.

Jim November 16th 08 01:19 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even
think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.

I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises,
make progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside
for various reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're
not being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that
would lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush
said he would catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is
that going to happen? On Obama's watch?

A lot of folks came to those conclusions because of Obama's promises
of a chicken in every pot and his promise to re distribute wealth
and provide free this and that to everyone. His speeches were
carefully crafted to suck in the barely literate and give them hope
and promises of a carefree prosperous, and happy future. What amazes
me is that he sucked in so many supposedly bright people like
yourself as well. You better hope and pray that congress starts
taking a daily dose of smart pills and begins to do the job we are
paying them to do.


Right, Jim. I was going to vote for "Bomb, Bomb Iran" and the
simple-minded Alaskan Jesus Freak.

You may not have voted for the less of two evils.

What the hell is '"Jesus Freak". You make Archie Bunker sound like a
choir boy.



Actually, I am using the term ironically. Sarah Palin actually is not a
Jesus Freak. She is the antithesis of a Jesus Freak. But you wouldn't
understand it under any circumstances.


I simply asked you to define Jesus Freak. Apparently, you don't have an
answer.

Boater November 16th 08 01:21 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even
think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.

I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises,
make progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside
for various reasons. If you think it should be otherwise, you're
not being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that
would lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush
said he would catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is
that going to happen? On Obama's watch?

A lot of folks came to those conclusions because of Obama's
promises of a chicken in every pot and his promise to re distribute
wealth and provide free this and that to everyone. His speeches
were carefully crafted to suck in the barely literate and give them
hope and promises of a carefree prosperous, and happy future. What
amazes me is that he sucked in so many supposedly bright people
like yourself as well. You better hope and pray that congress
starts taking a daily dose of smart pills and begins to do the job
we are paying them to do.


Right, Jim. I was going to vote for "Bomb, Bomb Iran" and the
simple-minded Alaskan Jesus Freak.

You may not have voted for the less of two evils.

What the hell is '"Jesus Freak". You make Archie Bunker sound like a
choir boy.



Actually, I am using the term ironically. Sarah Palin actually is not
a Jesus Freak. She is the antithesis of a Jesus Freak. But you
wouldn't understand it under any circumstances.


I simply asked you to define Jesus Freak. Apparently, you don't have an
answer.



D'oh.

Go change a sparkplug, "chief."

Jim November 16th 08 01:39 PM

This is kind of funny, well, not really.
 
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Tim wrote:
I fairly well knew he had promised way more than he could even
think
of accomplishing, because i've heard it all before... in my
state.

Did you miss that?
evidently.

I'm sure President Obama will deliver on many of his promises,
make progress on many others, and some will fall by the wayside
for various reasons. If you think it should be otherwise,
you're not being realistic.


Problem is, here's what many people heard:

"I won't have to worry about gas prices, or paying my mortgage".

(woman to interviewer the night of his election victory)

Eisboch


To the best of my recollection, Obama never said anything that
would lead anyone to those conclusions. On the other hand, Bush
said he would catch those responsible for plotting 9-11. When is
that going to happen? On Obama's watch?

A lot of folks came to those conclusions because of Obama's
promises of a chicken in every pot and his promise to re
distribute wealth and provide free this and that to everyone. His
speeches were carefully crafted to suck in the barely literate and
give them hope and promises of a carefree prosperous, and happy
future. What amazes me is that he sucked in so many supposedly
bright people like yourself as well. You better hope and pray that
congress starts taking a daily dose of smart pills and begins to
do the job we are paying them to do.


Right, Jim. I was going to vote for "Bomb, Bomb Iran" and the
simple-minded Alaskan Jesus Freak.

You may not have voted for the less of two evils.

What the hell is '"Jesus Freak". You make Archie Bunker sound like a
choir boy.


Actually, I am using the term ironically. Sarah Palin actually is not
a Jesus Freak. She is the antithesis of a Jesus Freak. But you
wouldn't understand it under any circumstances.


I simply asked you to define Jesus Freak. Apparently, you don't have
an answer.



D'oh.

Go change a sparkplug, "chief."


Another gotcha. You are getting too easy.


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