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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Easy news isn't feeding them to you. They are probably overloaded with political crap. Be patient. "Soon come" |
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On Nov 14, 11:06 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) The temptation has been great to post political stuff but I will do so only every now and then. I do not want to seem like certain people who are unable to see the diff tween politics and boats. I do want to rant about poorly made electronics though but will wait for another time. I will rant about poor electronics design, particularly the "cell phone menu" type of design which seems to me to be user hostile. Older devices such as analog alarm clocks were very easy to figure out with a knob for various functions. Setting the time was just a matter of turning the right one or maybe pulling it out. By contrast, modern devices are not obvious at all and often require that you keep a many page manual just so you can remember how to make them do the most basic functions. This is a matter of basically poor design. Compare the design of an older type of VHF with knobs for squelch, volume, channel. etc with a modern one with very few real buttons that must be pushed in weird order just to enable you to change channels or turn down the squelch. Sure, you can remember how to do this when calm but what about in an emergency? Could you do it while being in a life jacket up to your mouth in the water so you could barely see the display? See, this isnt just a matter of ease of use for us Luddites, ti is a matter of safety. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I will rant about poor electronics design, particularly the "cell phone menu" type of design which seems to me to be user hostile. Older devices such as analog alarm clocks were very easy to figure out with a knob for various functions. Setting the time was just a matter of turning the right one or maybe pulling it out. By contrast, modern devices are not obvious at all and often require that you keep a many page manual just so you can remember how to make them do the most basic functions. This is a matter of basically poor design. Compare the design of an older type of VHF with knobs for squelch, volume, channel. etc with a modern one with very few real buttons that must be pushed in weird order just to enable you to change channels or turn down the squelch. Sure, you can remember how to do this when calm but what about in an emergency? Could you do it while being in a life jacket up to your mouth in the water so you could barely see the display? See, this isnt just a matter of ease of use for us Luddites, ti is a matter of safety. I feel your pain. No, this is not about politics. I bought my son an Icom handheld VHF radio for his beachhouse so he could eavesdrop on the boats and ships either fishing on the bay or entering/exiting the Cape Cod Canal. Took me half an hour just to figure out how to turn it on, adjust the volume and set the squelch. Another 20 minutes or so and I had several frequencies set in the scan mode. None of this was accomplished without the aid of the owner's manual which normally I don't even bother to take out of the box. This little VHF transceiver has more modes and programming gimmicks than anyone would possible ever need or want. I guess they do it simply because they "can". Eisboch |
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On Nov 14, 11:42*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I will rant about poor electronics design, particularly the "cell phone menu" type of design which seems to me to be user hostile. Older devices such as analog alarm clocks were very easy to figure out with a knob for various functions. *Setting the time was just a matter of turning the right one or maybe pulling it out. *By contrast, modern devices are not obvious at all and often require that you keep a many page manual just so you can remember how to make them do the most basic functions. *This is a matter of basically poor design. Compare the design of an older type of VHF with knobs for squelch, volume, channel. etc with a modern one with very few real buttons that must be pushed in weird order just to enable you to change channels or turn down the squelch. *Sure, you can remember how to do this when calm but what about in an emergency? *Could you do it while being in a life jacket up to your mouth in the water so you could barely see the display? *See, this isnt just a matter of ease of use for us Luddites, ti is a matter of safety. I feel your pain. *No, this is not about politics. I bought my son an Icom handheld VHF radio for his beachhouse so he could eavesdrop on the boats and ships either fishing on the bay or entering/exiting the Cape Cod Canal. Took me half an hour just to figure out how to turn it on, adjust the volume and set the squelch. Another 20 minutes or so and I had several frequencies set in the scan mode. None of this was accomplished without the aid of the owner's manual which normally I don't even bother to take out of the box. This little VHF transceiver has more modes and programming gimmicks than anyone would possible ever need or want. * I guess they do it simply because they "can". Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should have just handed it over. I let my teenager figure it out and then ask her how to do the things I'm interested in doing. My wife can't stand any of it though. I have a moderately complicate audio/visual equipment collection in the family room and she refuses to even try to understand it. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Here's one for you: The tilt on my 1997 Force 50 has developed an intermitant problem- always works to lower and sometimes works to raise the outboard. If it doesn't work, I leave it sit for a while then check it again followed by unplugging and plugging the 3 sets of connectors from the harness to the motor. Last time, I checked the voltage at the connectors closest to the motor and was getting about 9 volts in both switch positions. My unplugging/plugging game didn't work that time so I swapped the wires (2 on this model) and the motor tilted up and for a moment tilted down but didn't the second time I tried. Any ideas? MMC |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Are you using Justwait's "networking services"? Here's a boating post for you...took Yo-Ho to the dealer's for winterizing this morning. Emailed you a possibly interesting shopping list. |
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mmc wrote:
The tilt on my 1997 Force 50 has developed an intermitant problem- always works to lower and sometimes works to raise the outboard. If it doesn't work, I leave it sit for a while then check it again followed by unplugging and plugging the 3 sets of connectors from the harness to the motor. Last time, I checked the voltage at the connectors closest to the motor and was getting about 9 volts in both switch positions. My unplugging/plugging game didn't work that time so I swapped the wires (2 on this model) and the motor tilted up and for a moment tilted down but didn't the second time I tried. Do you get a relay "click" the times it doesn't work? -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:06:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Gotta be your server. Lots of rain up there? -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Here's one for ya'. I was reading my November 27, 2008 issue of Rolling Stone and found this of interest: Forty Years Ago Top Ten Albums November 16th, 1968 1. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland 2. Big Brother and the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills 3. The Rascals - Time Peace/The Rascals Greatest Hits 4. Jose Feliciano - Feliciano! 5. Steppenwolf - The Second 6. The Chambers Brothers - The Time Has Come 7. The Crazy World of Arthur Brown - The Crazy World of Arthur Brown 8. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced? 9. Cream - Wheels of Fire 10. Glen Campbell - Gentle on My Mind Ahhh, good times those were. |
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"Dave Brown" wrote in message news:1cKdnUhuYafCXYDUnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... mmc wrote: The tilt on my 1997 Force 50 has developed an intermitant problem- always works to lower and sometimes works to raise the outboard. If it doesn't work, I leave it sit for a while then check it again followed by unplugging and plugging the 3 sets of connectors from the harness to the motor. Last time, I checked the voltage at the connectors closest to the motor and was getting about 9 volts in both switch positions. My unplugging/plugging game didn't work that time so I swapped the wires (2 on this model) and the motor tilted up and for a moment tilted down but didn't the second time I tried. Do you get a relay "click" the times it doesn't work? -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ Don't think I'd ever heard a click but will check again. I'll get the Mrs to mess with the switch while I listen at the motor. I can't hear a click from the helm, but I can't hear very well anyways so that doesn't mean it's not happening. |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:06:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) FWIW, Cox has been screwy today down here today also. I'm getting headers from Nov 11th, and sometimes none at all. Easynews shows everything. |
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RG wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Here's one for ya'. I was reading my November 27, 2008 issue of Rolling Stone and found this of interest: Forty Years Ago Top Ten Albums November 16th, 1968 1. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland 2. Big Brother and the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills 3. The Rascals - Time Peace/The Rascals Greatest Hits 4. Jose Feliciano - Feliciano! 5. Steppenwolf - The Second 6. The Chambers Brothers - The Time Has Come 7. The Crazy World of Arthur Brown - The Crazy World of Arthur Brown 8. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced? 9. Cream - Wheels of Fire 10. Glen Campbell - Gentle on My Mind Ahhh, good times those were. And we think the world has changed. |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:42:57 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I will rant about poor electronics design, particularly the "cell phone menu" type of design which seems to me to be user hostile. Older devices such as analog alarm clocks were very easy to figure out with a knob for various functions. Setting the time was just a matter of turning the right one or maybe pulling it out. By contrast, modern devices are not obvious at all and often require that you keep a many page manual just so you can remember how to make them do the most basic functions. This is a matter of basically poor design. Compare the design of an older type of VHF with knobs for squelch, volume, channel. etc with a modern one with very few real buttons that must be pushed in weird order just to enable you to change channels or turn down the squelch. Sure, you can remember how to do this when calm but what about in an emergency? Could you do it while being in a life jacket up to your mouth in the water so you could barely see the display? See, this isnt just a matter of ease of use for us Luddites, ti is a matter of safety. I feel your pain. No, this is not about politics. I bought my son an Icom handheld VHF radio for his beachhouse so he could eavesdrop on the boats and ships either fishing on the bay or entering/exiting the Cape Cod Canal. Took me half an hour just to figure out how to turn it on, adjust the volume and set the squelch. Another 20 minutes or so and I had several frequencies set in the scan mode. None of this was accomplished without the aid of the owner's manual which normally I don't even bother to take out of the box. This little VHF transceiver has more modes and programming gimmicks than anyone would possible ever need or want. I guess they do it simply because they "can". When I first bought my Yaesu FT-1000D (quite a few years ago) it took me three days to figure out how to even get it to the point where I could use half the functions and to this day, I still don't use a lot of them. Now I understand from a friend that he's thinking of selling his brand new FTDX9000MP because it too freakin' complicated to operate. :) There are only so many "features" one can use at any one time. Which is why I keep the old radios around - plus, they have tubes. :) |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:11:47 -0500, "mmc" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Here's one for you: The tilt on my 1997 Force 50 has developed an intermitant problem- always works to lower and sometimes works to raise the outboard. If it doesn't work, I leave it sit for a while then check it again followed by unplugging and plugging the 3 sets of connectors from the harness to the motor. Last time, I checked the voltage at the connectors closest to the motor and was getting about 9 volts in both switch positions. My unplugging/plugging game didn't work that time so I swapped the wires (2 on this model) and the motor tilted up and for a moment tilted down but didn't the second time I tried. Any ideas? Relay switch. Gotta be. |
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Boater wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... NO new posts for an entire morning? That's gotta be a first. :) Are you using Justwait's "networking services"? Here's a boating post for you...took Yo-Ho to the dealer's for winterizing this morning. Emailed you a possibly interesting shopping list. Did you hit 40 hours this year, superstar? |
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"mmc" wrote in message ng.com... "Dave Brown" wrote in message news:1cKdnUhuYafCXYDUnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... mmc wrote: The tilt on my 1997 Force 50 has developed an intermitant problem- always works to lower and sometimes works to raise the outboard. If it doesn't work, I leave it sit for a while then check it again followed by unplugging and plugging the 3 sets of connectors from the harness to the motor. Last time, I checked the voltage at the connectors closest to the motor and was getting about 9 volts in both switch positions. My unplugging/plugging game didn't work that time so I swapped the wires (2 on this model) and the motor tilted up and for a moment tilted down but didn't the second time I tried. Do you get a relay "click" the times it doesn't work? -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ Don't think I'd ever heard a click but will check again. I'll get the Mrs to mess with the switch while I listen at the motor. I can't hear a click from the helm, but I can't hear very well anyways so that doesn't mean it's not happening. I used a remote switch flipper tool (boathook) and checked it. No click when it doesn't work. |
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