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On Apr 16, 10:21 am, Chuck wrote:
Matt Colie wrote: Peter, You got one answer with no explanation. A circuit breaker is a switch. - Period (Some used in vehicles are self -resetting, they are still switches but with no manual control.) The features note means that it is designed to be used as a manually controlled disconnect under load. The manufacturer believes this device can do that safely. This is largely a moot point in your case. The windless switches are the devices you use to control the actual motor. You will not be doing that if your arrangement is at all like any I've ever seen. The only time you will use this as a switch is if you choose to disconnect the feed to the actual switching circuit for the windless. Circuit breakers used to be certified to interrupt the current at rated load or greater only five times, and came with instructions to replace them if they had been tripped or manually operated more than twice. Then along came the category called Switch Duty Breakers (SWB). These are certified to pass UL, NFPA and NMEA requirements on matter how many times they are cycled. Most still come with a note to replace if they are opened by overcurrent - this is because the contact might be damaged. I am paranoid (I find it serves me well) so I put Switch Duty Breakers in my shop wiring to control the two banks of lights. Though I had every intention of putting a pair of 3-way switches by the two doors, I have been turning the lights on out there at least once a day for fifteen years. When I tested them last (not something a normal person can do), both were still within specification. I will put in the above mentioned switches someday - if I don't kill my self getting to the breaker box in the dark before that. Matt Colie Yachtman's Technical Support www.yachtek.com Peter Hendra wrote: Larry, I have jusy puchased a "Blue Seal" brand - "Bussman series High Amp Circuit Breaker" - 125 Amps; for my anchor winch circuit. Stated on the packaging under "featuires" is "combines switching and circuit breaker function into one unit" Question: Is it good practice to use it as a switch? cheers Peter Hendra Why not ask Blue Sea how many switch operations you can expect their breaker to perform with your anchor winch load? Then you'll have an answer you can rely on. It goes without saying that you'll be installing the breaker in what is euphemistically considered a "damp environment". Be sure to mention that to Blue Sea, so as to discourage presentation of results from laboratory testing in a pristine environment. As a general rule, combining functions tends to result in compromises to one or more of the functions. The links below examine this issue for breakers as switches, but not specifically for Blue Sea products. You obviously are aware of that and are questioning Blue Sea's advertising. You're just asking the wrong people: not one of us on this group has probably developed credible statistical data on Blue Sea breaker failure rates as a function of number of cycles of operation. Their web site seems mute on the subject also. Some breakers have been designed to perform well as switches and manufacturers often quote performance data to support their claims. http://www.etk.ee.kth.se/personal/li...PMAPS04TommieS... http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/alsj-CBsVsSwitches.html Using Circuit Breakers as Switches Good luck! Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.newsfeeds.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- You may get the answers you want regarding breaker statistics from Blue Sea Systems but, since they don't manufacture them, Carling may be the better source. While on the subject of circuit protection, it's worth mentioning the DC Circuit Wizard at their website. They just put on their site and it appears to be a good tool. Although it helps to have some technical knowledge to answer all the questions accurately I think this will help many do-it-yourselfers, based on the number of questions on circuit protection and wire sizing I see at various sailing groups. Tim |
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