Knots being phased out?
Hi,
I have been told that all new equipment, chartplotters, speedometers and the like will not have knots as a speed option. Knots will be phased out and KPH will be the new standard for marine equipment. Has anybody heard of this? If so where? Some links please if available. Thanks Oliver Fleming |
Knots being phased out?
I think somebody is yanking your chain.
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Knots being phased out?
"Oliver Fleming" wrote in message
... Hi, I have been told..... By whom? |
Knots being phased out?
Isn't KPS "Knots per Hour" = "Knots"?
This sounds exceedingly unlikely. It isn't just boating but the entire aviation world that would have to convert if the nautical mile was abandoned. |
Knots being phased out?
Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it
will ever disappear in earth based navigation. Roger Long wrote: Isn't KPS "Knots per Hour" = "Knots"? This sounds exceedingly unlikely. It isn't just boating but the entire aviation world that would have to convert if the nautical mile was abandoned. |
Knots being phased out?
This is true. USCG is reporting that the term and nautical application of "knot" will be replaced in 2014 by Grek-Gohk!, which is the Klingon unit equal to .987, .878, and .799 miles depending on sea conditions. Cheers, Robert B Beneteau 35s5 NY |
Knots being phased out?
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com... This is true. USCG is reporting that the term and nautical application of "knot" will be replaced in 2014 by Grek-Gohk!, which is the Klingon unit equal to .987, .878, and .799 miles depending on sea conditions. Robert B Beneteau 35s5 NY Is that due to the fogdoppler effect? |
Knots being phased out?
Oliver Fleming wrote: Hi, I have been told that all new equipment, chartplotters, speedometers and the like will not have knots as a speed option. Knots will be phased out and KPH will be the new standard for marine equipment. Has anybody heard of this? If so where? Some links please if available. Thanks Oliver Fleming I can see it now: A CA or EUR boat shopper looks at a runabout. Shopper: One little thing that bothers me is that the speedometer reads in kph, rather than knots. Is there an option to get a speedometer that reads in knots? Unprofessional salesperson: Oh no. Of course not. Didn't you know that all new navigation equipment will eliminate knots as a unit of measurement and the new worldwide standard will be kph? **** Sometimes a depth sounder is appropriate in the showroom, where it has been known to get piled up pretty deep indeed. :-) |
Knots being phased out?
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle
wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. |
Knots being phased out?
Peter Bennett wrote:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj |
Knots being phased out?
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... This is true. USCG is reporting that the term and nautical application of "knot" will be replaced in 2014 by Grek-Gohk!, which is the Klingon unit equal to .987, .878, and .799 miles depending on sea conditions. Robert B Beneteau 35s5 NY Is that due to the fogdoppler effect? No. It's due to them using on of the flawed Pentium processors. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"krj" wrote in message
. .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Knots being phased out?
Capt. JG wrote:
"krj" wrote in message . .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm Ooops, I did get it backwards krj |
Knots being phased out?
krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj What? Longitude doesn't vary with latitude?????? Are you also saying that Latitude DOES vary with regards to longitude?????? |
Knots being phased out?
krj wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "krj" wrote in message . .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm Ooops, I did get it backwards krj sorry, didn't see this post from you until after I replied. |
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"krj" wrote in message
.. . Capt. JG wrote: "krj" wrote in message . .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm Ooops, I did get it backwards krj Heh... I knew it was a troll. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Knots being phased out?
krj wrote:
Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Agree.. that's what they taught us in the Power & Sail Squadron courses. |
Knots being phased out?
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 1 Dec 2006 06:48:41 -0800, "Capt. Rob" wrote: This is true. USCG is reporting that the term and nautical application of "knot" will be replaced in 2014 by Grek-Gohk!, which is the Klingon unit equal to .987, .878, and .799 miles depending on sea conditions. ROTFL!!! I wonder what that would be in Ferengi units of measure. Or Vulcan units of measure. For Vulcan measurments check out these great Vuls ! The BB team is a bit rough but gotta love the VB team!!!!! At least I do. http://vulcans.uhh.hawaii.edu/ Also be advised that Ferengi Rule of Acquisition No. 6 requires: Every vessel shall at all times proceed at a safe speed measured in KPH so that she can take proper and effective action to acquire, take, or possess anything of value appropriate to the prevailing circumstances and conditions. |
Knots being phased out?
Capt. Rob wrote: This is true. USCG is reporting that the term and nautical application of "knot" will be replaced in 2014 by Grek-Gohk!, When did the online car insurance people get involved with contracting measurements? |
Knots being phased out?
Don White wrote:
krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Agree.. that's what they taught us in the Power & Sail Squadron courses. ooops...I'd better dig out those old textbooks & review. Of course, that scale we measure on the left & right sides of the chart are the latitude scales. |
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In article ,
krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Hmmmmm..... I think you have your terms "Wrapped around the Axle" here.... Nautical Miles is based on "Minute of Latitude" which does NOT change since the distance from the Equater to the Poles is ALWAYS the SAME, from any place on the EQUATER. Therefor, when dividing that distance in Degrees, MInutes, and Seconds, will ALWAYS produce the same Unit Lengths. Where as Longitude is the cicumfrence of the earth at the equater divided into Degrees, Minutes, and Seconds, and that DOES change Unit length as you move closer to the Poles. Longitude is marked on the bottom and top of Maps, where Latitude is marked on the right and left had edges of Maps. One ALWAYS uses the Latitude markings for distance because they do NOT change Unit Length, EVER..... Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:26:25 GMT, Don White wrote: krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Agree.. that's what they taught us in the Power & Sail Squadron courses. I knew things were different in Canada. :) D'oh! It was you 'merican military types who dreamed up the newer Universal Tranverse mercator system...probably around the time you were a young private.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...rdinate_system |
Knots being phased out?
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:18:10 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote: In article , krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Hmmmmm..... I think you have your terms "Wrapped around the Axle" here.... Nautical Miles is based on "Minute of Latitude" which does NOT change since the distance from the Equater to the Poles is ALWAYS the SAME, from any place on the EQUATER. Therefor, when dividing that distance in Degrees, MInutes, and Seconds, will ALWAYS produce the same Unit Lengths. Where as Longitude is the cicumfrence of the earth at the equater divided into Degrees, Minutes, and Seconds, and that DOES change Unit length as you move closer to the Poles. Longitude is marked on the bottom and top of Maps, where Latitude is marked on the right and left had edges of Maps. One ALWAYS uses the Latitude markings for distance because they do NOT change Unit Length, EVER..... Bruce in alaska Since the earth is not a perfect sphere, the length of a minute of latitude _does_ vary slightly with latitude - Bowditch has a table showing the lengths of a minute of Lat and Long for various latitudes. I vaguely recall a minute of latitude varies by 300 ft or so from equator to pole (don't recall which end is longer), and is only a nautical mile at about 44 degrees. |
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"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
news.com... On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:18:10 GMT, Bruce in Alaska wrote: In article , krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Hmmmmm..... I think you have your terms "Wrapped around the Axle" here.... Nautical Miles is based on "Minute of Latitude" which does NOT change since the distance from the Equater to the Poles is ALWAYS the SAME, from any place on the EQUATER. Therefor, when dividing that distance in Degrees, MInutes, and Seconds, will ALWAYS produce the same Unit Lengths. Where as Longitude is the cicumfrence of the earth at the equater divided into Degrees, Minutes, and Seconds, and that DOES change Unit length as you move closer to the Poles. Longitude is marked on the bottom and top of Maps, where Latitude is marked on the right and left had edges of Maps. One ALWAYS uses the Latitude markings for distance because they do NOT change Unit Length, EVER..... Bruce in alaska Since the earth is not a perfect sphere, the length of a minute of latitude _does_ vary slightly with latitude - Bowditch has a table showing the lengths of a minute of Lat and Long for various latitudes. I vaguely recall a minute of latitude varies by 300 ft or so from equator to pole (don't recall which end is longer), and is only a nautical mile at about 44 degrees. I have a feeling that small diff isn't going to hurt your transatlantic jouneys. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Knots being phased out?
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:18:10 GMT, Bruce in Alaska wrote: Hmmmmm..... I think you have your terms "Wrapped around the Axle" here.... Another one to put in my book of great sayings. Although it might have more relevance if it were wrapped around the prop. Thank you... :) When I was young (about 12) , I often hung around a service station owned by a friend of my father. One day an elderly guy pulled in driving an old Rambler station wagon. His muffler and exhaust system from the engine back was dragging on the ground. To get him by until he could get the car in for a permanent repair, the station owner handed me some bailing wire and told me to climb under the car and wire the exhaust back up as a temporary fix. It was temporary alright. I did a great job carefully wiring the exhaust pipe tightly around the driveshaft. Eisboch |
Knots being phased out?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:18:10 GMT, Bruce in Alaska wrote: Hmmmmm..... I think you have your terms "Wrapped around the Axle" here.... Another one to put in my book of great sayings. Although it might have more relevance if it were wrapped around the prop. Thank you... :) When I was young (about 12) , I often hung around a service station owned by a friend of my father. One day an elderly guy pulled in driving an old Rambler station wagon. His muffler and exhaust system from the engine back was dragging on the ground. To get him by until he could get the car in for a permanent repair, the station owner handed me some bailing wire and told me to climb under the car and wire the exhaust back up as a temporary fix. It was temporary alright. I did a great job carefully wiring the exhaust pipe tightly around the driveshaft. Eisboch Oooops.... If you'd have used a slip knot, it probably would have been OK. 8) |
European Union DIrective
Appears this is related to the EU's Metric Directive. Outlawing the use
of Non-Metric units. In it's allowed units for special circumstances it lists the Fathom as authorized for maritime use. But does not list the Knot. However this can likley be worked around as there is no prohibition in using Minutes of Latitude and likewise Minutes of Latitude per hour. Oliver Fleming wrote: Hi, I have been told that all new equipment, chartplotters, speedometers and the like will not have knots as a speed option. Knots will be phased out and KPH will be the new standard for marine equipment. Has anybody heard of this? If so where? Some links please if available. Thanks Oliver Fleming |
European Union DIrective
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 1 Dec 2006 14:46:20 -0800, " wrote: Another failed EU initiative. Bet the French were behind it. :) Worse The EU Parliament Effective 2010 you package marked 5KG (11LB) is Illegal in Europe. I am sure the bureaucrats there would be perfectly happy forcing the worlds meritime services to start computing everythin in Meters per Second. And will disavow any responsibility for any collisions, groundings etc. that result. http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasure...tive_20102.pdf |
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Knots being phased out?
I am just a chemist that likes to sail and have spent all of my time on
inland lakes. I thought it was latitude but could be longitude, but I do remember that the diameter of the earth at the equator in in knots is equal to 360 X 60. Capt. JG wrote: "krj" wrote in message . .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm |
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Your initial thought was correct.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "keith_nuttle" wrote in message t... I am just a chemist that likes to sail and have spent all of my time on inland lakes. I thought it was latitude but could be longitude, but I do remember that the diameter of the earth at the equator in in knots is equal to 360 X 60. Capt. JG wrote: "krj" wrote in message . .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm |
Knots being phased out?
MAYBE it will be the default, but knots will still be there. It's all computed in a microprocessor, and it's just a few lines
of firmware to calculate knots, or even furlongs per fortnight.. "Oliver Fleming" wrote in message ... Hi, I have been told that all new equipment, chartplotters, speedometers and the like will not have knots as a speed option. Knots will be phased out and KPH will be the new standard for marine equipment. Has anybody heard of this? If so where? Some links please if available. Thanks Oliver Fleming |
Knots being phased out?
"keith_nuttle" wrote in message t... I am just a chemist that likes to sail and have spent all of my time on inland lakes. I thought it was latitude but could be longitude, but I do remember that the diameter of the earth at the equator in in knots is equal to 360 X 60. Capt. JG wrote: "krj" wrote in message . .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm Don't you mean circumference? |
Knots being phased out?
Who needs a knot when you got velcro?
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Knots being phased out?
Gordon wrote: Who needs a knot when you got velcro? concerning in your shorts, at least a knot won't grab you by the short hairs. |
Knots being phased out?
"Roger Long" wrote in news:0zWbh.31688$zB4.19393
@twister.nyroc.rr.com: Isn't KPS "Knots per Hour" = "Knots"? Knots per hour, would be a unit of acceleration because "knots" means "nautical miles per hour". Knots per hour = "nautical miles per hour per hour". We sailors only DREAM of acceleration....(c; Larry -- If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other? |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in news:1164984521.878796.17520
@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com: which is the Klingon unit "Klingons have Ridges"....like Ripple potato chips. Oh, oh....is that a racist statement?! Gotta watch that.... (anonymous) |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:12n0t1osgh46l22
@corp.supernews.com: Is that due to the fogdoppler effect? No. It's due to them using on of the flawed Pentium processors. Celerons? Yecch..... What planet are Celerons native to? |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) Excellent point. 360 degrees of LONGITUDE in a 10' circle around the pole is only 31.4' or about 12.5" per degree. At the equator, the distance between degrees is a tad larger, right?....(c; Larry -- If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other? |
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