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Hi Jack,

I currently run the radar in HU since I havnt installed my fluxgate yet.


I can only agree, after reading your post, that the GPS shouldnt have
anything to do with it. The antenna does not know the bearing to the
reflection and thus throws the error message.

Ill try to take apart the dome and check for cables, dirt etc. Any tips
on how the bearing data in Simrads are generated would be greatly
appriciated.


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david

Jack Erbes wrote:
David Rinnan wrote:

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for all the information!

Just to make sure I understand this.. When you say "look at the way
the bearing data is generated" are you then refering to the GPS, in my
case, since I havnt installed a separate compass yet?


It is not about the GPS, he is talking about bearing as in the direction
the radar's rotating radiator or antenna is pointed (relative to the
center line of the boat). That bearing is the direction the radar pulse
was sent to and received from. If that bearing display is off, the
relative bearing to a radar contact from the boat would incorrect.

Does your boat have a flux gate compass? A boat with a radar system
and/or a autopilot really should have a flux gate compass for
determining the boats bearing when not moving. A flux gate compass
knows the bearing at all times (boat moving or not) and sends it to
other devices as a NMEA sentence.

If you do not have a flux gate compass your radar has probably been set
up to use the heading data from the NMEA sentences from the GPS. GPS
headings are only reliable when you are moving, they float around when
you are stopped and do not stay relative to the bow of the boat.

In the above I use heading and bearing as follows:

heading - the direction the boat is moving
bearing - the direction the bow of the boat is pointing

Some people will want to argue about the terms and their use but I'm not
likely to indulge in discussion about it. :) There are many different
definitions and schools of thought on some navigation terms and none of
them are wrong.

Jack

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David Rinnan wrote:

Hi Jack,

I currently run the radar in HU since I havnt installed my fluxgate yet.

I can only agree, after reading your post, that the GPS shouldnt have
anything to do with it. The antenna does not know the bearing to the
reflection and thus throws the error message.

Ill try to take apart the dome and check for cables, dirt etc. Any tips
on how the bearing data in Simrads are generated would be greatly
appriciated.


Checking inside the dome sounds like a good idea to me. I'd think that
newer radars would have the timing pulse generator simplified down to
something a little less troublesome than optic sensors and stuff like
that though.

I'm not a radar tech in any sense of the word, I am guy that has
occasionally opened one up and checked or connected the cable or
something simple like that.

Jack

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