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I have used silicon twice in the past for "temporary" testing in this
situation. (Figuring I would go back and fix it later once I found the best spot). One was 4 years ago in my dingy and the other was 3 years ago in my sportfish. Neither hull is cored. Both are still working near perfectly for shallow water. (200ft) and high speed. I just cut the caulking tube tip off at the widest point, made a pile of silicon (no bubbles) and pushed the transducer down into the pile making sure it was level to the world. I let it dry and tried it out. Since it worked, I have not gone to back to "FIX" it... i have heard the evils of doing this but I go back to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I am sure I am getting some attenuation but for what I am using them for (SHallow water) I don't need all the power anyway. BTW... I do NOT use this for my two 1500 ft sounders, those are thru hull with fairing blocks, etc. Using epoxy like larry suggested is a better solution but you better get it right the first time. Another trick for angled bottom boats. Cut a piece of 3" pvc (or 4" if you have a big transducer) the approx angle of the hull (about 2-4" long) glue it in with silicon to the hull. Once it drys, fill it with water, test your transducer in the water at all speeds. If the spot works, dry it out, fill it with epoxy, place the transducer in the epoxy and let it dry. This allows more epoxy to "flatten the surface" Larry wrote: "DPFresh" wrote in news:1144040012.290616.216280 @i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Hello all, so as oppossed to drilling a hole in my hull for a depth finder sensor, I should be able to set it up inside the hull as long as the sensor is in some type of liquid right? IT will be able to tell depths through the fiberglass hull right? That depends on whether the hull is cored or not. Fiberglass conducts sound energy just fine. Hull coring, like a Boston Whaler, is damned near a perfect sound absorber in the foam core. So, test it. Hook up the sonar, but leave the transducer loose so we can move it around and find a hot spot, a spot where it sees through the hull the best...away from the motor noise, if you please. Put a couple of inches of water inside the hull so we can couple the sound from the transducer to the hull inside the boat without mounting it. Take the boat out into 50' of water. Now, keep the transducer underwater any time the sonar is on...... Put the transducer, with the sound output surface pointing at the hull, down we assume, under the water and hold it there against the hull. Turn on the sonar and see what we gots. See the bottom? Move the transducer around in this area and look for the best picture. Ok, we found a little spot it works better than others. Have a second party start the boat and drive full speed in a straight line while you watch the sonar. Can we still see the bottom in 50' of water, or did the display go all crazy because the engine noise and underwater bubbles or cavitation under the hull right here got in the way? While underway, where we want the sonar to work, of course, move the transducer around under the bilge water to see if our hot spot is the "underway hot spot". Note the location of the best place. Take the boat home, pump it out and give our hotspot a good scrubbing in Dawn, because Dawn "gets grease out of your way", like the commercial says. Use Dawn to clean off the transducer, too. Ok, the hull is squeaky clean at our hot spot. Dry out the bilge, fully and take a heat gun (hair dryer) to our hotspot to make it perfectly dry and warm. Heat it up but don't burn it. While it's still warm put a nice little blob of epoxy on our hot spot and work the sound output surface, MAKE SURE IT'S THE SOUND OUTPUT SURFACE, into the epoxy blob to work out all the air bubbles in the epoxy. Notice I said EPOXY, not bathtub caulk or RTV or Silicone sealer or any of those rubbery, sound absorbing, compounds like 3M 4200 or 5200 sealer or any of that stuff. EPOXY, 2-part, make-damned- sure-you-get-it-where-you-want-it-before-it-hardens EPOXY. Epoxy hardens into stone, a solid mass that transmits sound from transducer to hull. It will also hold the transducer in place for life. I had a Sea Rayder 16' jetboat that went about 60. The transom-mounted transducer made the boat turn from its drag every time you dropped power because it was jet powered, no rudder. So, I mounted my sonar just like this and it's still working just fine since 1997.....(c; Your sonar company, mine was Eagle, has a special transducer with a flat face for mounting with epoxy. It even came with epoxy. This is the transducer you want for this type of installation.....call 'em and ask for it. |
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