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Got a question on LORAN sets. I don't want to get into the desireability of
GPS as the nav mode of choice today. I'm fiddling around with LORAN and trying to get going with it. 1. What is/are LORAN operating frequencies? 2. Marine LORANS are found with external couplers (pre-amps) which go at the base of the fiberglass/whip antenna. Can marine LORANs which are made for use with external couplers give reasonably good performance without the coupler? Or, is lack of the coupler a "killer"? 2. Are there marine LORAN receivers which don't require external couplers (i.e., that hook direct to the antenna)? 3. If you have a marine LORAN which does in fact need an external coupler to get enough signal through and you don't have the companion coupler unit, are any commonly available pre-amp boards for the LORAN frequencies available? If so, where find? |
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In article , "RB" wrote:
Got a question on LORAN sets. I don't want to get into the desireability of GPS as the nav mode of choice today. I'm fiddling around with LORAN and trying to get going with it. 1. What is/are LORAN operating frequencies? 2. Marine LORANS are found with external couplers (pre-amps) which go at the base of the fiberglass/whip antenna. Can marine LORANs which are made for use with external couplers give reasonably good performance without the coupler? Or, is lack of the coupler a "killer"? 2. Are there marine LORAN receivers which don't require external couplers (i.e., that hook direct to the antenna)? 3. If you have a marine LORAN which does in fact need an external coupler to get enough signal through and you don't have the companion coupler unit, are any commonly available pre-amp boards for the LORAN frequencies available? If so, where find? Man, I had to do a little searching. We used to track Loran to check long term timming stability of atomic clocks. 100 kHz seems the right frequency. A loran signal is probably best received using a loop antenna, but for receiving multiple direction signals a whip is needed I'm sure. All you need is a 100kHz amplifier, probably low passed and preferably bandpassed matched to the antenna, and to the receiver input. greg |
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"RB" wrote in
: Got a question on LORAN sets. I don't want to get into the desireability of GPS as the nav mode of choice today. I'm fiddling around with LORAN and trying to get going with it. 1. What is/are LORAN operating frequencies? 100 Khz, all stations are on the same frequency, exactly. They use a cesium beam frequency standard to make sure it's perfect. 2. Marine LORANS are found with external couplers (pre-amps) which go at the base of the fiberglass/whip antenna. Can marine LORANs which are made for use with external couplers give reasonably good performance without the coupler? Or, is lack of the coupler a "killer"? Killer. The very-low frequency LORAN antenna is electrically 2340' long (1/4 wavelength on 100 Khz). To achieve this in an 8' long whip it is VERY heavily loaded with a large inductance and that coupler. No, you can only get it working with the cou0ler or a 2,340' long whip, your choice. 2. Are there marine LORAN receivers which don't require external couplers (i.e., that hook direct to the antenna)? The couplers on the marine antennas are built into the whip. They're still there. 3. If you have a marine LORAN which does in fact need an external coupler to get enough signal through and you don't have the companion coupler unit, are any commonly available pre-amp boards for the LORAN frequencies available? If so, where find? It's not a preamp problem. There's tons of signal from teh MEGAWATT LORAN-C pulse transmitters and their massive capacitor hat loaded 850' tall antenna towers. The problem is that 2340' 1/4 wave whip it takes to hook 'em up. You need the antenna system it came with..... |
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"Larry" wrote in message . Killer. The very-low frequency LORAN antenna is electrically 2340' long (1/4 wavelength on 100 Khz). To achieve this in an 8' long whip it is VERY heavily loaded with a large inductance and that coupler. No, you can only get it working with the cou0ler or a 2,340' long whip, your choice. 2. Are there marine LORAN receivers which don't require external couplers (i.e., that hook direct to the antenna)? The couplers on the marine antennas are built into the whip. They're still there. 3. If you have a marine LORAN which does in fact need an external coupler to get enough signal through and you don't have the companion coupler unit, are any commonly available pre-amp boards for the LORAN frequencies available? If so, where find? It's not a preamp problem. There's tons of signal from teh MEGAWATT LORAN-C pulse transmitters and their massive capacitor hat loaded 850' tall antenna towers. The problem is that 2340' 1/4 wave whip it takes to hook 'em up. You need the antenna system it came with..... While there is certainly no question that the matching coupler and 8' whip are pretty much standard, just for fun we experimented with some of the old TI lorans, and found that the SSB antennas on many power and sail boats worked fairly well, with one major "gotcha". Loran C, at 100 khz is very easily messed up by electrical noises from almost anything on a boat. Having the 8' whip antenna up and away (several feet at least) from the noise makers and the boat's wiring, made major differences in noise pick-up. Water damaged TI loran couplers were pretty common, and you could pull the guts out and throw them away, and jumper the whip connector to the signal feed wire inside the coupler. Performance not perfect by a long shot, but if you shut down the main engine and everything else, you could get a fix. (the hard way) Old Chief Lynn |
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OK. Thanks, Larry. That means all those nice LORAN receivers for sale on
Eprey without couplers basically aren't useable. Which is probably why the go so cheap...... |
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I have a few loran couplers laying around, some trimble, northstar, TI, possibly a SI-Tex. I could give you one for the price of shipping if you want. Don't know what model Loran your looking at, some couplers interchangeable, some not. Eric "RB" wrote in message ... 3. If you have a marine LORAN which does in fact need an external coupler to get enough signal through and you don't have the companion coupler unit, are any commonly available pre-amp boards for the LORAN frequencies available? If so, where find? |
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What is in these "couplers" is it just a huge inductor to cancel out
the capacitive reactance? I discovered this phenomenon the hard way when I replaced the shielded cable on my car antenna with just some simple coax. Absolutely no AM signal at the end. Then I figured out why the real cable is a coax with a very tiny center conductor inside a hollow tube to minimize the capacitance. If you used something similar to connect any antenna to your loran it would probably work better. Have fun. |
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These are "active" antenna's. Power is provided via the coax and there is a PCB in there with a pre-amplifier circuit. Some units have notch filters and/or bandpass filters in them. Eric wrote in message oups.com... What is in these "couplers" is it just a huge inductor to cancel out the capacitive reactance? I discovered this phenomenon the hard way when I replaced the shielded cable on my car antenna with just some simple coax. Absolutely no AM signal at the end. Then I figured out why the real cable is a coax with a very tiny center conductor inside a hollow tube to minimize the capacitance. If you used something similar to connect any antenna to your loran it would probably work better. Have fun. |
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"Eric Fairbank" wrote in
: These are "active" antenna's. Power is provided via the coax and there is a PCB in there with a pre-amplifier circuit. Some units have notch filters and/or bandpass filters in them. Eric Don't confuse them. They think you can plug just any old thing into any old thing just because it has the same BNC connector and it will be on the cheap. If we go telling them different, technicians' families will starve and have a bad Christmas... Not long ago I found a formerly-good GPS front end plugged into a formerly- good LORAN receiver, myself... They're pretty close, right?....(c; |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:15:42 -0500, "Eric Fairbank"
wrote: These are "active" antenna's. Power is provided via the coax and there is a PCB in there with a pre-amplifier circuit. Some units have notch filters and/or bandpass filters in them. ===================================== Absolutely right. If anyone really wants to hack around with this stuff I have a couple of Northstar LORAN-C units sitting around without antennas or couplers. They were first class units in their day and have SO-239 coax connectors on the back. |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: Absolutely right. If anyone really wants to hack around with this stuff I have a couple of Northstar LORAN-C units sitting around without antennas or couplers. They were first class units in their day and have SO-239 coax connectors on the back. I have someone Christmas gift, too. I have a perfectly good-working Stephens Engineering SEA-106 HF synthesized SSB Marine transceiver with microphone and NO CABLES OR COUPLER in first class condition I'll give to the first person who shows up to pick it up. If you have a SEA-106, or know someone who has one, this one hasn't a scratch. It was at the main helm of a motoryacht, inside in the air conditioning, all those years. It's owner said it had been removed when they restored the helm's woodwork and made a new panel for new gear. Someone threw out all the cables and coupler which was dumped in another box away from the transceiver. Sorry.... He said it was working when uninstalled, but he wanted a marine radio that would work with his new ham license more easily. The power plug is marked with + and - and "ON" terminals, which I assume is a remote power switch to just jumper out. I have no book, no cables, as it was handed to me after installing a new Icom M802 on the boat. I never turn down free stuff, even if I have no clue.... Of course, it comes with a full money-back guarantee....(c; Munge up your email address and post it in reply if you want it....PICKUP ONLY in Charleston, SC. |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:50:37 -0500, Larry wrote:
I have someone Christmas gift, too. I have a perfectly good-working Stephens Engineering SEA-106 HF synthesized SSB Marine transceiver =========================== I will see that and raise you a Stephens SEA112 with coupler. With the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: I will see that and raise you a Stephens SEA112 with coupler. With the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. You know if we keep this up we'll end up with S/V "Newsgroup", a nice old Morgan OI 41 loaded with antique electronic gear, for next Christmas...(c; |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: I will see that and raise you a Stephens SEA112 with coupler. With the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. God, if the Ebay hawkers see this giveaway going on they're gonna have a HEART ATTACK for Christmas!....(c; |
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Larry wrote: Wayne.B wrote in : Absolutely right. If anyone really wants to hack around with this stuff I have a couple of Northstar LORAN-C units sitting around without antennas or couplers. They were first class units in their day and have SO-239 coax connectors on the back. I have someone Christmas gift, too. I have a perfectly good-working Stephens Engineering SEA-106 HF synthesized SSB Marine transceiver with microphone and NO CABLES OR COUPLER in first class condition I'll give to the first person who shows up to pick it up. If you have a SEA-106, or know someone who has one, this one hasn't a scratch. It was at the main helm of a motoryacht, inside in the air conditioning, all those years. It's owner said it had been removed when they restored the helm's woodwork and made a new panel for new gear. Someone threw out all the cables and coupler which was dumped in another box away from the transceiver. Sorry.... He said it was working when uninstalled, but he wanted a marine radio that would work with his new ham license more easily. The power plug is marked with + and - and "ON" terminals, which I assume is a remote power switch to just jumper out. I have no book, no cables, as it was handed to me after installing a new Icom M802 on the boat. I never turn down free stuff, even if I have no clue.... Of course, it comes with a full money-back guarantee....(c; Munge up your email address and post it in reply if you want it....PICKUP ONLY in Charleston, SC. Larry, I can supply a complete Manual for that SEA-106, if someone wants to photocopy my Shop Manual. These are a bit dated and you have to check the Prom Version to make sure it has the latest Frequency Lineup, as the FCC/ITU did change the channel configurations for MF/HF Marine Systems back in that day.... I also have complete Master Prom Sets for ALL the SEA Radio's that have the later FCC/ITU Frequnecy Lineups. Does your Radio have the two Frequency dials on the front panel, or is it the Prom only version. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:50:37 -0500, Larry wrote: I have someone Christmas gift, too. I have a perfectly good-working Stephens Engineering SEA-106 HF synthesized SSB Marine transceiver =========================== I will see that and raise you a Stephens SEA112 with coupler. With the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. is the drivemotor 12Vdc or 32Vdc? Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Larry wrote: Wayne.B wrote in : I will see that and raise you a Stephens SEA112 with coupler. With the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. You know if we keep this up we'll end up with S/V "Newsgroup", a nice old Morgan OI 41 loaded with antique electronic gear, for next Christmas...(c; Maybe we could have a NewsGroup Auction...with the proceeds going to some Marine Electronics Foundation for Educating of Mariners..... I got a whole warehouse (Dry Storage) full of Boat Anchor Marine Electronics..... Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Bruce in Alaska wrote in news:bruceg-
: well, if your rich and famous..... I am rich and famous. I use Yaesu ham radios...(c; They come with LSB and 10 Hz steps, not 100 or 1Khz. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... Bruce in Alaska wrote in news:bruceg- : well, if your rich and famous..... I am rich and famous. I use Yaesu ham radios...(c; They come with LSB and 10 Hz steps, not 100 or 1Khz. Heck, that ain't nothing! My RME4350 goes 20 times further than that....... just during warm up. Lynn W7LTQ |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in news:donr4h$1u6$1
@domitilla.aioe.org: just during warm up. Warmup? 4-1000's don't warmup...(c; Oh, you mean until the graphite plates are cherry red on the pair of them...(c; |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "Lynn Coffelt" wrote in news:donr4h$1u6$1 @domitilla.aioe.org: just during warm up. Warmup? 4-1000's don't warmup...(c; Oh, you mean until the graphite plates are cherry red on the pair of them...(c; Well, not exactly, but we did run cherry red graphites for a time on the homebrew push-pull 211's (aka VT-127?). Shame the plate xformer smoked during ARRL RCC certificate attempts. Lynn W7LTQ |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Lynn Coffelt" wrote in news:donr4h$1u6$1 @domitilla.aioe.org: just during warm up. Warmup? 4-1000's don't warmup...(c; Oh, you mean until the graphite plates are cherry red on the pair of them...(c; Well, not exactly, but we did run cherry red graphites for a time on the homebrew push-pull 211's (aka VT-127?). Shame the plate xformer smoked during ARRL RCC certificate attempts. Nothing like the warm glow of a pair of 3-500's key down on rtty, on a cold winter's night. Almost as warming as a fireplace. Leanne W1WXS |
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homebrew push-pull 211's (aka VT-127?) OK, my bad. should read "(aka VT-4C)" it was almost 60 years ago. Lynn W7LTQ |
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"Leanne" wrote in :
Nothing like the warm glow of a pair of 3-500's key down on rtty, on a cold winter's night. Almost as warming as a fireplace. Leanne W1WXS You never saw the big 4-1000A amp I got from JD Black, WA4DVK in Orangeburg, did you? It was in a WW2 Navy transmitter cabinet 24" wide and 7' high. Pole pig hooked up backwards for 7200VDC, cut back to 6KV with a 230VAC 30A variac beast on the primary, home brew filament transformer, regulated screen power supply for stability, running COMMON CATHODE! Input was a 50 ohm, 100W dummy load into a drive potentiometer so you could turn the drive back to where the tubes were designed to operate. No tuned input necessary, it was a dummy load for the rig. Output was a shunt-fed Pi network with huge rotary inductor with nice turns counter, 500pF, 30KV vacuum variable input and broadcast air variable dual ganged output cap both with nice vernier, calibrated dials for fast band changing. Huge broadcast transmitter meters across the top, screen-shielded window to impress the shack guests looking in over the pair of 4-1000A graphite Amperex finals. I brought a piece of melted RG-8 to a club meeting one night. "Somethin' ain't right!", I told 'em...(c; Great fun on 75M on a cold winter night. The little Heath HW-100 transceiver and a coaxial antenna changeover relay and we're in business...(c; Run about 20W into it and you'd see 6KV on one meter and nearly 1A on the plate meter. That's about a kilowatt, right?....Right! In Sumter, my neighbor's hall light was resonant around 3900 Khz. It followed the SSB modulation, lighting up quite brightly...(c; POWER is our FRIEND.... |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in news:doq2id$g23$1
@domitilla.aioe.org: OK, my bad. should read "(aka VT-4C)" it was almost 60 years ago. You're telling me. My father just moved into a nursing home at 83 and I've been going through the junk. Found a picture of me in my sailor suit when I was an ET3 back in '65. Nice lookin' kid, but that was FORTY YEARS AGO! How awful.... |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:12:56 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote: I will see that and raise you a Stephens SEA112 with coupler. With the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. is the drivemotor 12Vdc or 32Vdc? ================================ 12 volts |
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the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. is the drivemotor 12Vdc or 32Vdc? ================================ 12 volts Last year we put a Wood-Freeman mechanical, chain drive monster on a commercial fishing vessel. Of course we used Comnav electronics and motor driver. (new mercury contactors are rare and expensive!) Lynn |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:55:11 -0800, "Lynn Coffelt"
wrote: (new mercury contactors are rare and expensive!) Any idea what the 2 that I have are worth? Not sure if they are working of course. |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote: Last year we put a Wood-Freeman mechanical, chain drive monster on a commercial fishing vessel. Of course we used Comnav electronics and motor driver. (new mercury contactors are rare and expensive!) Lynn Nothing like an old Wood Freeman Brass Gearbox Chaindrive.... I suspect you could build a PowerMosFET driver for one of these without too much trouble. I wonder what Bruce @ Wood-Freeman is using instead of Mercury Switches these days? I have seen a lot of different AutoPilot Boxes driving Wood-Freeman Motordrives over the years. Worked on a Model 12 last summer, for a Troller... now that is OLD...... Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 18:33:39 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote: Nothing like an old Wood Freeman Brass Gearbox Chaindrive.... I suspect you could build a PowerMosFET driver for one of these without too much trouble. I wonder what Bruce @ Wood-Freeman is using instead of Mercury Switches these days? I have seen a lot of different AutoPilot Boxes driving Wood-Freeman Motordrives over the years. Worked on a Model 12 last summer, for a Troller... now that is OLD...... ================================= Know anyone who could use one circa 1981 or so? I have both the motor drive and the control box although it is likely that some part of it is not working since it was already replaced at the time I bought the boat. I deinstalled the Wood-Freeman components last year to make more room under the flybridge console. It is a 12 volt unit from a Grand Banks 49 Classic trawler. |
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Last year we put a Wood-Freeman mechanical, chain drive monster on a
commercial fishing vessel. Of course we used Comnav electronics and motor driver. (new mercury contactors are rare and expensive!) Lynn Nothing like an old Wood Freeman Brass Gearbox Chaindrive.... I suspect you could build a PowerMosFET driver for one of these without too much trouble. I wonder what Bruce @ Wood-Freeman is using instead of Mercury Switches these days? I have seen a lot of different AutoPilot Boxes driving Wood-Freeman Motordrives over the years. Worked on a Model 12 last summer, for a Troller... now that is OLD...... Haven't talked to Bruce since I sold shop 10 years ago. I did talk to Doc's son about the four-wire motor color code I think last year. I see in their website they have a "solid-state" driver that replaces tilting tables "sensitive relays" and everything! Also we installed a few "solid-state switchers" maybe 15 years ago, for the "500" when using two pump sets in tandem. (mostly on Kodiak seiners that were lengthened to "limit" seiners) I still have a warm and fuzzy feeling for the cast brass, manual clutch and stainless steel chains "Iron Mike". I gathered up two SEA-106's (I think that's the model), one with the Eproms and one with the thumb wheels. Drew diagrams and accumulated parts to convert the EPROM model (with freq display) to a knob tuned, all frequency Ham rig. Was discouraged and quit when my talents couldn't figure how to tune it in smaller than 10khz increments with SEA's decoding system for the VCO........sigh. Lynn, "Has-Been Guru" |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in message ... With the right incentives I might also throw in a Wood Freeman auto pilot assembly (chain drive). It is a mechanical marvel and only weighs 50 pounds or so. is the drivemotor 12Vdc or 32Vdc? ================================ 12 volts Last year we put a Wood-Freeman mechanical, chain drive monster on a commercial fishing vessel. Of course we used Comnav electronics and motor driver. (new mercury contactors are rare and expensive!) Lynn I believe there still is an upgrade for the mercury contactors to solid state plug ins available somewhere. I recall we sent some out for upgrade about 3 years ago. The boss is on vacation this week (why I am back in the shop after retiring). I am sure he could ID the source if anyone needs them. 73 Doug K7ABX |
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"Larry"----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry" Newsgroups: rec.boats.electronics Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: loran questions SNIP.. When I need hard-to-find parts to fix old organs, especially ICs, I know who to ask before internet....(c; Hey Larry, Thought you might be interested to know that the owner, long since retired, of my employer, is Rodgers Jenkins, the founder of Rodgers Organ, a Tektronixs spin off. See www.rodgersmarine.com for a company histroy. 73 Doug K7ABX CTMCS USN (Retired) wrote in message ... |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message ... Bruce in Alaska wrote in news:bruceg- : well, if your rich and famous..... I am rich and famous. I use Yaesu ham radios...(c; They come with LSB and 10 Hz steps, not 100 or 1Khz. Heck, that ain't nothing! My RME4350 goes 20 times further than that....... just during warm up. Lynn W7LTQ Ever thought of trying some zener diodes or solid state regulators in it to see if stabalizes? Do is have VR type gaseous regulator tubes? It been a few years since I peeked inside an RME. Doug K7ABX |
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"Leanne" wrote in message ... "Lynn Coffelt" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Lynn Coffelt" wrote in news:donr4h$1u6$1 @domitilla.aioe.org: just during warm up. Warmup? 4-1000's don't warmup...(c; Oh, you mean until the graphite plates are cherry red on the pair of them...(c; Well, not exactly, but we did run cherry red graphites for a time on the homebrew push-pull 211's (aka VT-127?). Shame the plate xformer smoked during ARRL RCC certificate attempts. Nothing like the warm glow of a pair of 3-500's key down on rtty, on a cold winter's night. Almost as warming as a fireplace. Leanne W1WXS And the solder running out of the 3-500 tube pins. I restored a large box of pulled 3-500Z's back in 1970 when I arrived on Adak Island. Some of the MARS ops at KL7AIZ were not real good about tuning the Henry 2K3 with Johnson Viking matchbox into the 80 meter rhombic. The tubes got so hot the solder ran out of the pins. Once I discovered the fix, there was talk of awarding me some kind of medal! 73 Doug K7ABX |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote: I gathered up two SEA-106's (I think that's the model), one with the Eproms and one with the thumb wheels. Drew diagrams and accumulated parts to convert the EPROM model (with freq display) to a knob tuned, all frequency Ham rig. Was discouraged and quit when my talents couldn't figure how to tune it in smaller than 10khz increments with SEA's decoding system for the VCO........sigh. Lynn, "Has-Been Guru" As I remember it the 106 didn't have a divider chain that went down past 10Khz, because 100Khz was the minimum channel spacing at the time for commercial MF/HF radios. I think Bill Forgey wanted to go to 100Hz, but got overruled by the Marketing Guys, as it would cost to much to impliment that into the radio. Sure made the VCO Loops, a lot easier to design. I remember how interested those guys were to look at my Kenwood TS-430, that I got right after they came on the market. Bill, Mark, and Pete Hopp, did a complete Type Acceptance proceedure on it, in the Design Lab just to see how good the design was. I saw the data, and it would have passed on all the technical stuff, just wouldn't meet the Operator Control Requirements. They were very impressed, and the result was the SEA-322, which has one of the best commercial Marine Specs around. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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"Doug" wrote in
ink.net: Thought you might be interested to know that the owner, long since retired, of my employer, is Rodgers Jenkins, the founder of Rodgers Organ, a Tektronixs spin off. See www.rodgersmarine.com for a company histroy. 73 Doug K7ABX CTMCS USN (Retired) That is cool, Doug. There are a few Rodgers around Charleston, left by a little dealer that started up with way too much stock, way too little capital and way too few buyers. He left a few of them and I think he's still coming to service them, but not sure any more. I rarely get to fix one. Hell, any more I rarely get to fix ANY! The business has gone all to hell. I've spent this week rebuilding a computer network for a real estate office, cleaning the internet's excrement off their computers and making it so copy-protected, damnable Windows XP can be force-fed, even when it doesn't want to, so they can go about their business, unimpeded by the billionaire from Redmond....(c; Rodgers made nice organs, but the prices put them in the ALLEN class without the lifetime Allen support, which also did in several more bigshot organ companies. Allen's still got parts for their 1962 model...in stock for shipment, immediately. UNfortunately, they won't ship them to ME to make the customers happy, trying to force them to get service from the overloaded dealer's boy at $25 more an hour.... Larry W4CSC ET1...1964-1969... |
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