"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in news:Tv-
:

U.S. requires an operator license as well.


I still got my Restricted. It's punched through like your passport with
20J0121 across the paper. Don't think the new ones are for a few decades.

--
Larry

I was concerned about general abuse of the Marine VHF also.

However, I just spent a month up in Canadian BC waters and the respect for
proper procedure and useage of the VHF was impressive.

Anytime I heard any general 'chit-chat' on 16 (most likely fellow "Yanks")
they were quickly dressed down and that was the last you heard of them. I
suspect this may have something to do with the need to rely upon the VHF
more than Cell Phones in BC waters.

My opinion and experience, FWIW.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:33:38 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

...and of course Canadians require an operators license, although the
station licenses are gone.

U.S. requires an operator license as well.


But the Canadian Operator Certificate requires a bit of study, and an
examination.



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"Steve" wrote in news:KcadnZ-o2s1hi5TeRVn-
:

I was concerned about general abuse of the Marine VHF also.


You'd have had a heart attack on Channel 10 in Greenville, SC, a long way
from the sea. A friend of mine, who was a ham, ran a pest control business
on Channel 10 for years...(c; Not much traffic in the mountains....(c;

This kilocycle kop krap gets too far, however. Lots of boaters I know are
afraid to use the radios for fear of making some kind of foopah mistake.
What nonsense. Some idiot screamed at me on Ch 68 one day for talking
about a raft up we were headed to with friends. I gave him Lionheart's
callsign and asked him for his. Of course, he had none...(c;

--
Larry

"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
news.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:33:38 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

...and of course Canadians require an operators license, although the
station licenses are gone.

U.S. requires an operator license as well.


But the Canadian Operator Certificate requires a bit of study, and an
examination.

Your point?



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Steve" wrote in news:KcadnZ-o2s1hi5TeRVn-
:

I was concerned about general abuse of the Marine VHF also.


You'd have had a heart attack on Channel 10 in Greenville, SC, a long way
from the sea. A friend of mine, who was a ham, ran a pest control
business
on Channel 10 for years...(c; Not much traffic in the mountains....(c;

This kilocycle kop krap gets too far, however. Lots of boaters I know are
afraid to use the radios for fear of making some kind of foopah mistake.
What nonsense. Some idiot screamed at me on Ch 68 one day for talking
about a raft up we were headed to with friends. I gave him Lionheart's
callsign and asked him for his. Of course, he had none...(c;

He didn't need a callsign.

--
Larry

While living aboard, at a mooring in San Diego CA, early '90s, I overheard
the US Navy parking lot security patrols using the VHF walkie talkies every
nite for a couple days. Fortunately a senior navy officer on his pleasure
boat heard them and all the other boater complaints and put a stop to it..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Steve" wrote in news:KcadnZ-o2s1hi5TeRVn-
:

I was concerned about general abuse of the Marine VHF also.


You'd have had a heart attack on Channel 10 in Greenville, SC, a long way
from the sea. A friend of mine, who was a ham, ran a pest control
business
on Channel 10 for years...(c; Not much traffic in the mountains....(c;

This kilocycle kop krap gets too far, however. Lots of boaters I know are
afraid to use the radios for fear of making some kind of foopah mistake.
What nonsense. Some idiot screamed at me on Ch 68 one day for talking
about a raft up we were headed to with friends. I gave him Lionheart's
callsign and asked him for his. Of course, he had none...(c;

--
Larry

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:26:31 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
rnews.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:33:38 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

...and of course Canadians require an operators license, although the
station licenses are gone.

U.S. requires an operator license as well.


But the Canadian Operator Certificate requires a bit of study, and an
examination.

Your point?

I understood that Americans could get an operator's certificate
without any training or examination - they just submit a form to the
FCC. If this is not the case, I'll withdraw my comment.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
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"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
news.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:26:31 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
ernews.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:33:38 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

...and of course Canadians require an operators license, although the
station licenses are gone.

U.S. requires an operator license as well.


But the Canadian Operator Certificate requires a bit of study, and an
examination.

Your point?

I understood that Americans could get an operator's certificate
without any training or examination - they just submit a form to the
FCC. If this is not the case, I'll withdraw my comment.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

That's true, but radio procedures are taught in basic boating courses.
So I guess your point was that US operators are somehow inferior
to Canadian operators.

In article ,
"Steve" wrote:


I was concerned about general abuse of the Marine VHF also.

However, I just spent a month up in Canadian BC waters and the respect for
proper procedure and useage of the VHF was impressive.

Anytime I heard any general 'chit-chat' on 16 (most likely fellow "Yanks")
they were quickly dressed down and that was the last you heard of them. I
suspect this may have something to do with the need to rely upon the VHF
more than Cell Phones in BC waters.

My opinion and experience, FWIW.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

No, the USCG does a good job of keeping Marine ch. 16 free of chitchat
up here in God's Country....

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

In article .com,
Peter Bennett wrote:

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:26:31 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
rnews.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:33:38 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

...and of course Canadians require an operators license, although the
station licenses are gone.

U.S. requires an operator license as well.


But the Canadian Operator Certificate requires a bit of study, and an
examination.

Your point?

I understood that Americans could get an operator's certificate
without any training or examination - they just submit a form to the
FCC. If this is not the case, I'll withdraw my comment.

Actually, there are two types of Non-Technical Operators licenses
avalible in the US. Resricted Permit and Marine Radiotelephoner
Operators Permit. The Restricted Permit is for all VHF Operators,
and HF Operators running less than 400 watts PEP, outside US Waters, and
in Alaska, and has no testing required. The MROP is for Coast Station
Operators, HF Operators of Station with Powers over 400 Watts PEP, and
all SOLAS, and Great Lakes Radio Agreement, except for Coast Stations in
Alaska that have less than 1500 Watts PEP Power.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

Bruce in Alaska wrote:


Actually, there are two types of Non-Technical Operators licenses
avalible in the US. Resricted Permit and Marine Radiotelephoner
Operators Permit. The Restricted Permit is for all VHF Operators,
and HF Operators running less than 400 watts PEP, outside US Waters, and
in Alaska, and has no testing required. The MROP is for Coast Station
Operators, HF Operators of Station with Powers over 400 Watts PEP, and
all SOLAS, and Great Lakes Radio Agreement, except for Coast Stations in
Alaska that have less than 1500 Watts PEP Power.

Bruce in alaska

Back in 2000 I took a CPS two night seminar and wrote an exam to receive
my Restricted Operator Certificate"
http://www.cps-ecp.ca/english/radio_talk.htm

FCC proposes to drop code on all licenses!
 

Thanks to the FCC, they have turned the VHF Marine Band into
CB.
Capt Boots
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote
in message ...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message

..
..

In article , Larry

wrote:


Nonsense. Marine VHF has no license at all and it's not
like
CB....well,
often....until their drunk. Ham radio is worse than CB
when THEY're
drunk.

--
Larry

Actually, the above is only true for Non-commercial
Marine VHF Radios.
All Commercial Marine Radios REQUIRE a Radio Station
License.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @


Even recreational boats with VHFs require a license if
operating outside
US waters.

Doug in Maryland


...and of course Canadians require an operators license,
although the
station licenses are gone.

U.S. requires an operator license as well.

FCC proposes to drop code on all licenses!
 

Code has never been required for Marine VHF.
krj

Boots wrote:

Thanks to the FCC, they have turned the VHF Marine Band into
CB.
Capt Boots
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote
in message ...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Doug Dotson wrote:

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message


..
.

In article , Larry



wrote:



Nonsense. Marine VHF has no license at all and it's not

like

CB....well,
often....until their drunk. Ham radio is worse than CB

when THEY're

drunk.

--
Larry

Actually, the above is only true for Non-commercial

Marine VHF Radios.

All Commercial Marine Radios REQUIRE a Radio Station

License.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @


Even recreational boats with VHFs require a license if

operating outside

US waters.

Doug in Maryland



...and of course Canadians require an operators license,

although the

station licenses are gone.


U.S. requires an operator license as well.

FCC proposes to drop code on all licenses!
 

"Boots" wrote in news:1128372013_40775@spool6-
east.superfeed.net:

Thanks to the FCC, they have turned the VHF Marine Band into
CB.
Capt Boots


How did the license make them better radio operators....or drivers....??

If it did, then we need intensive licensing before we let them get behind
the wheel of that 70' luxury motor yacht, something that worries me MUCH
more than some stupid little radio license.

Push THAT button at the yacht club or boat dealer and see what you
get....(c;

--
Larry